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I'm getting Atmos on all the VUDU 4K movies I try. So it seems to be working correctly for VUDU and the 313D beta. iTUNES of course is not. But VUDU is.
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I do get a very few occasional minor audio dropouts when watching Atmos only on vudu

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I do get a very few occasional minor audio dropouts when watching Atmos only on vudu


I get it on everything. It’s a new bug. Here’s a thread on it.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads...#post-26221504



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VUDU having playback issues. Thought it was maybe the beta. Switched to ROKU and same problem. Something's not right with VUDU.
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I am annoyed at the audio delay I’m noticing while watching movies on ATV 4K hooked up to a Denon X1400H.

I haven’t used the audio delay option on my Denon receiver but it annoys me that this is happening now.

Does anyone use audio delay on their receivers while hooked up to ATV 4K?


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I am annoyed at the audio delay I’m noticing while watching movies on ATV 4K hooked up to a Denon X1400H.

I haven’t used the audio delay option on my Denon receiver but it annoys me that this is happening now.

Does anyone use audio delay on their receivers while hooked up to ATV 4K?


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I am annoyed at the audio delay I’m noticing while watching movies on ATV 4K hooked up to a Denon X1400H.

I haven’t used the audio delay option on my Denon receiver but it annoys me that this is happening now.

Does anyone use audio delay on their receivers while hooked up to ATV 4K?


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I have serious audio delays with my Denon x1300W (since before beta 12) - Netflix is the worst offender for me. It seems to be isolated to Dolby Vision / DD+ material, which makes setting an audio pointless since the correction to DV messes up everything else.

Setting the receiver to upconvert the multi-channel output to multi-channel + Dolby Surround improves it a bit. Also there are no issues if I use ARC and DD+ is sent to receiver or if I force the Apple to sent Dolby Digital to receiver.

Also, Atmos material does not appear to have the issue with the Vudu App.

It appears to be Denon issue with PCM and DV but could also be Apple TV related.
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I have serious audio delays with my Denon x1300W (since before beta 12) - Netflix is the worst offender for me. It seems to be isolated to Dolby Vision / DD+ material, which makes setting an audio pointless since the correction to DV messes up everything else.

Setting the receiver to upconvert the multi-channel output to multi-channel + Dolby Surround improves it a bit. Also there are no issues if I use ARC and DD+ is sent to receiver or if I force the Apple to sent Dolby Digital to receiver.

Also, Atmos material does not appear to have the issue with the Vudu App.

It appears to be Denon issue with PCM and DV but could also be Apple TV related.
Video Delay (where you hear the word before the lips form the word) is most often caused by video processing time. The more complicated the video (DV, HDR10) the longer it takes to push the video out. The TV is the one doing all the video processing and its able to calculate how long a delay it causes. Most newer TVs allow you to compensate for that delay via the TV’s Settings screen - but ONLY if the audio is being sent FROM the TV to the audio unit. Since most of us demux our Roku and ATV4K signal at the receiver, prior to sending the video to the TV, we lose that advantage.
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Same issues as some other people- switches to PCM- won't play Atmos, audio keeps playing in background after stopping on Onkyo receiver.

Apple has a long way to go if they plan on releasing it in Sep.

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Same issues as some other people- switches to PCM- won't play Atmos, audio keeps playing in background after stopping on Onkyo receiver.



Apple has a long way to go if they plan on releasing it in Sep.


It’s important not to assume that the beta isn’t working simply because you can’t get atmos playing. Atmos was apparently working fine for a number of iTunes films during the developer beta. Apple just pulled the content from the store as the public beta went live. They may well not put it back until tvOS 12 is about to go public in September/ October.


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It’s important not to assume that the beta isn’t working simply because you can’t get atmos playing. Atmos was apparently working fine for a number of iTunes films during the developer beta. Apple just pulled the content from the store as the public beta went live. They may well not put it back until tvOS 12 is about to go public in September/ October.


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It would be an odd decision because it would seem to give Vudu (and it’s Atmos ability) an immense advantage for the next several months.
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I don't typically buy movies on iTunes. If I wanted to test to see if I can get Atmos, are there any titles on either Netflix or Amazon Prime that have worked for others?
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It would be an odd decision because it would seem to give Vudu (and it’s Atmos ability) an immense advantage for the next several months.


What kind of advantage? Selling/renting movies?


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I don't typically buy movies on iTunes. If I wanted to test to see if I can get Atmos, are there any titles on either Netflix or Amazon Prime that have worked for others?
Netflix says they support Atmos on selected titles. As for Amazon, that's another issue.

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Anyway to go from tvOS 12 public beta 2 back to the publicly released 11.4.1? Will admit ATMOS is great with VUDU but the TUBI.TV app has serious bugs with tvOS 12 betas.
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It would be an odd decision because it would seem to give Vudu (and it’s Atmos ability) an immense advantage for the next several months.
But that advantage (IMHO), the ability to play Atmos, will be equalized once tvOS 12 is officially released. And until that time, it's still beta and folks will have glitches... It won't be pretty, but it'll sound damn good until the next hiccup.
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Anyway to go from tvOS 12 public beta 2 back to the publicly released 11.4.1? Will admit ATMOS is great with VUDU but the TUBI.TV app has serious bugs with tvOS 12 betas.


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I am annoyed at the audio delay I’m noticing while watching movies on ATV 4K hooked up to a Denon X1400H.

I haven’t used the audio delay option on my Denon receiver but it annoys me that this is happening now.

Does anyone use audio delay on their receivers while hooked up to ATV 4K?


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I have the same receiver and running the TVOS12 beta. I haven't noticed any delays. I think there is an adjustment in the setting of the X1400H to compensate for any audio delays. Not sure. Look at your manual.
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I have the same receiver and running the TVOS12 beta. I haven't noticed any delays. I think there is an adjustment in the setting of the X1400H to compensate for any audio delays. Not sure. Look at your manual.


I’m watching Dexter on Netflix and it’s fine.

However I was watching RuPaul’s Drag Race finale from iTunes and noticed the delay there.


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Netflix says they support Atmos on selected titles. As for Amazon, that's another issue.
I was hoping to get a recommendation for a specific title that has produced Atmos Sound.
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Netflix says they support Atmos on selected titles. As for Amazon, that's another issue.
The Netflix app on ATV doesn't support ATMOS yet. The titles listed are only going to work on Xboxes, 2017-18 LG OLEDs and Windows 10
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I don't typically buy movies on iTunes. If I wanted to test to see if I can get Atmos, are there any titles on either Netflix or Amazon Prime that have worked for others?
Hi, I can't seem to find any ATMOS content on Amazon or Netflix. I may be missing it. Only on VUDU now for me.

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It’s important not to assume that the beta isn’t working simply because you can’t get atmos playing. Atmos was apparently working fine for a number of iTunes films during the developer beta. Apple just pulled the content from the store as the public beta went live. They may well not put it back until tvOS 12 is about to go public in September/ October.


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If you read my previous post I said I managed to get it working after trying like 20x. The other 19 the HDMI light just flashed and it went to PCM. This is on Vudu.
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Hi, I can't seem to find any ATMOS content on Amazon or Netflix. I may be missing it. Only on VUDU now for me.


Because there isn’t any. The only atmos content currently available is from vudu.

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If you read my previous post I said I managed to get it working after trying like 20x. The other 19 the HDMI light just flashed and it went to PCM. This is on Vudu.


Maybe Vudu need to update their app? iTunes content was reported to be working well. To be honest, we’re so early in this beta cycle, I’m amazed things are as stable as they are. Usually the major point releases aren’t worth touching until at least a month in.


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The Netflix app on ATV doesn't support ATMOS yet. The titles listed are only going to work on Xboxes, 2017-18 LG OLEDs and Windows 10
Works on Roku and Chromecast Ultra.
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You are getting Netflix ATMOS on Roku? According to the Netflix help link above, it isn't supported there yet.
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Maybe Vudu need to update their app? iTunes content was reported to be working well. To be honest, we’re so early in this beta cycle, I’m amazed things are as stable as they are. Usually the major point releases aren’t worth touching until at least a month in.


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I couldn't get it working on iTunes either. I just purchased a new set of cables so we'll see if that helps. I suspect it's just an issue with the beta and not my setup because I have no problems getting Atmos out of every other device I have (Shield, TV, etc).

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I couldn't get it working on iTunes either. I just purchased a new set of cables so we'll see if that helps. I suspect it's just an issue with the beta and not my setup because I have no problems getting Atmos out of every other device I have (Shield, TV, etc).


There is currently no iTunes atmos content. There was before the public beta came out but it has now been withdrawn.

Please also take into account that atmos support is not scheduled for the Apple TV until the release of tvOS 12. This doesn’t mean that anything is broken. It just isn’t officially supported until then.

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