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vadergr 09-04-2018 06:36 AM

New Zidoo Z9S and Z10 (RTD1296 SoC)
 
Zidoo is about to release its more affordable (than Zidoo X20) media players shortly. Zidoo Z9S & Z10
Will arrive with Android 7!

vadergr 09-13-2018 10:20 AM

Some first photos and official specs!
Zidoo Z10 looks sexy :p

SilverBlade 09-13-2018 11:23 AM

Ugh, the Z10 has everything in the wrong place.
HDD rack is on the side - which means when you want to change the drive, you have to turn it around or move stuff around, risking unplugging something at the back.
And the USB ports are on the front....they should be at the back.

Briguy65 09-13-2018 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverBlade (Post 56803602)
Ugh, the Z10 has everything in the wrong place.
HDD rack is on the side - which means when you want to change the drive, you have to turn it around or move stuff around, risking unplugging something at the back.
And the USB ports are on the front....they should be at the back.

You have a point there with the USB ports. The specs say that there are two USB 3.0 ports as well as the two USB 2.0 ports on the front. I assume they are on the side opposite the hard drive opening. That's isn't too bad. I can also see why you don't like the hard drive access from the side, although since it has a small footprint there should be room. That said, I got the EGREAT A10 because of it's form factor over the zidoo. I liked the shorter wider stance, so you can stack things easier, since I have an audio cabinet, I like rectangles instead of squares in there. Still, I bet these new players will be really good with the new android and upgraded SoC.

indieke2 10-06-2018 12:03 AM

Not see any news, it was said to be laughed, first week of October, but seems to have been delayed.

vadergr 10-11-2018 03:16 AM

Review of the Zidoo Z9S

Better remote, better WiFi performance and endless connectivity options.

djnice77 10-11-2018 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vadergr (Post 56937298)
Review of the Zidoo Z9S

Better remote, better WiFi performance and endless connectivity options.

Please test the picture quality with Spears & Munsil HD tests like Sledgehamma.

vadergr 10-11-2018 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djnice77 (Post 56937846)
Please test the picture quality with Spears & Munsil HD tests like Sledgehamma.

I can only promise to try. Free time is a problem for me right now :)
The banding issue should be visible in auto mode just like like in the Zidoo X20.
Other than that, i don't expect to find any nasty surprises.

djnice77 10-11-2018 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vadergr (Post 56937922)
I can only promise to try. Free time is a problem for me right now :)
The banding issue should be visible in auto mode just like like in the Zidoo X20.
Other than that, i don't expect to find any nasty surprises.

Zidoo says on advertisement:
“New Realtek RTD1296DD chipset designed specifically for media playback. 30% more performance than RTD1295. New image processing and optimisation engine giving PQ equivalent to the best UHD BD players.”

This is true?

vadergr 10-11-2018 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djnice77 (Post 56937946)
Zidoo says on advertisement:
“New Realtek RTD1296DD chipset designed specifically for media playback. 30% more performance than RTD1295. New image processing and optimisation engine giving PQ equivalent to the best UHD BD players.”

This is true?

You do get a clean monitor out image if that's what you are asking (4K banding issue aside for once more, it needs manual input to be corrected).
There appears to be no extra video processing, at least visible or adjustable by the user/owner, so comparisons with HTPCs using MADVR filters or high end UHD players with integrated video processing would be unfair.
I did notice better HDR-SDR conversion though (hope it was not placebo effect :p ) which may mean that part of the "image processing and optimisation engine" statement is probably valid.

The raw computing performance of the SoC is similar to the one of the existing models.

jowicrt 10-11-2018 05:31 AM

I hope they work better then they look. Ugly cheap looking silver boxes... why not also in black?

vadergr 10-11-2018 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jowicrt (Post 56938262)
I hope they work better then they look. Ugly cheap looking silver boxes... why not also in black?


Their previous one was grey, looked better.
Build quality is really solid though. Exactly the same as Dune HD Pro 4K and Zidoo X9S.

b curry 10-11-2018 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vadergr (Post 56937298)
Review of the Zidoo Z9S

Better remote, better WiFi performance and endless connectivity options.


However, looks like they did away with the HDMI input recording feature. Maybe they will support that feature in a future firmware update?

Johnson-from-Arizona 10-11-2018 09:36 AM

These posts that popup periodically for these devices when there are already threads about them sure make these seem like company sponsored encouraged SALES ads.....

vadergr 10-11-2018 12:06 PM

Was there another thread for the new players?
Sorry if I missed it...

Briguy65 10-11-2018 12:26 PM

As far as I can tell this is the only thread talking about this particular model of the Zidoo player. Not sure what Johnson from Arizona is looking at.

b curry 10-11-2018 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnson-from-Arizona (Post 56939250)
These posts that popup periodically for these devices when there are already threads about them sure make these seem like company sponsored encouraged SALES ads.....


AFAIK this is the only thread talking about the new Z series or it's the only one I've seen.

Perhaps you could point to the additional threads, I would be interested to read them.

A search of the Networking, Media Servers & Content Streaming Forum using the key word Zidoo only brings up discrete threads for the X9S, a thread for the X20/X20 Pro, and this thread for a first page of 25 results and the Zidoo X10 in the second page of the next 25 results for me.

Litlgi74 10-11-2018 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnson-from-Arizona (Post 56939250)
These posts that popup periodically for these devices when there are already threads about them sure make these seem like company sponsored encouraged SALES ads.....

Maybe a little more research on your part would prevent a perfectly good thread from being deleted...

madhuski 10-12-2018 06:42 AM

I pulled the trigger on a Z10. First forway into ripping blunrays after using kaleidescape for a while...

theaxledentaldj 10-18-2018 06:37 PM

Would any of the new owners of the Z9S or Z10 test this short animated 3D Blu-ray video to make sure it runs in 23.976 fps? And if anyone has a Mac can you test to see if this new media player can work with NFS shares via NFS Manager s/w? TIA.

Download test 3D: https://mega.nz/#!4V4X2YTJ!ERq6M4WzF...HFb1qWtvXP_d5c

indieke2 10-20-2018 10:32 AM

Ok I got it. First impressions are not too bad. I not see any problem with frame skipping at first sight, but then that is not always obvious.

PQ, is in pair, with other zidoo, Dune, or Zappiti scrapper is fast, but like most inaccurate, some not found, some wrong;

The music player put out correctly higher frequency files, so that is good. But why did they not made a better player? Kind of Jriver like? I not found the app for my phone, shame too. Now my player had the audio-player 2, not 3.

UHD files are better then on any player (not seen the Oppo) You have different settings, and you can adjust brightness and contrast separately, that is great so it not affect normal HD.

is not an revolution, an evolution. There will probably soon bugs be found, but honestly, this is not a bad player. I find the Dune HD HDR 4 K with realtek 195, maybe a bit sharper, but depth, immersion is really good. Software of this player is better and more easy to use then Dune.

b curry 10-20-2018 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by indieke2 (Post 56989316)
... Software of this player is better and more easy to use then Dune.

Shhhh... Don't let the Dune guys hear you. :)

The Zidoo X9S is also easier to use and has substantially more developed firmware than the Dune Pro 4K as well.

jasjw 10-20-2018 03:33 PM

Can the zidoo play forced subs?

Sent from my SM-G955U1 using Tapatalk

Brajesh 10-20-2018 03:47 PM

Have any Realtek-based players supported forced subs? Don't think so... so, if Z9S/Z10 did, they'd be the first. Do Dune or Zappiti do?

b curry 10-20-2018 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasjw (Post 56990348)
Can the zidoo play forced subs?

Sent from my SM-G955U1 using Tapatalk

Yes, if it's an ISO file.

No, if it's an MKV file.

Same as other Realtec/Android based media players.

Sledgehamma 10-21-2018 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brajesh (Post 56990398)
Have any Realtek-based players supported forced subs? Don't think so... so, if Z9S/Z10 did, they'd be the first. Do Dune or Zappiti do?

No. Dine wants to supposedly change the RTD subtitle library with their own in order to make it possible. We will see whether this is a feasible solution or not.

Sledgehamma 10-21-2018 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b curry (Post 56990682)
Quote:

Originally Posted by jasjw (Post 56990348)
Can the zidoo play forced subs?

Sent from my SM-G955U1 using Tapatalk

Yes, if it's an ISO file.

No, if it's an MKV file.

Same as other Realtec/Android based media players.

ISO only with full menu playback.

xtrips 10-22-2018 01:57 PM

Kodi and Youtube and Universal remote
 
Hello,

I just got my Z9S and installed Google apps, Youtube and Kodi.

- Kodi: is it possible to make Kodi use the internal player of the Z9S in order to play 4K + HDR + Atmos ?
- Youtube: i thought that having Youtube running on Android 7.x would allow it to play 4K + HDR videos but apparently not. Am I missing something?
- U Remote: The Z9S is still unknown under Logitech Harmony remotes. Any idea?

Thanks

CucNZ 10-27-2018 01:16 AM

Like most Android 4k mediaplayers,you can install Apptoid(i believe...was months since i did it ) and then side load the version of Youtube which allows full 4k Youtube

Works well on my X9S,and ive seen others with the new Z9S say it works for them too

tinhvo 10-30-2018 11:55 AM

Some silly questions for Z10 box.
How big of the HDD (capacity) it allowed?

I have a lot of ripped MKV at home, I am debating whether to have put them all on the HDD then insert into the Z10 and watch from there or put them all on the external HDD and connect it to the router, I think that way, getting the Z9S is enough (hope the Z9S does support SMB or DLNA). What's your thought?

If I have the HDD in the Z10, if I want to add more ripped MKV to it, how do I do it? Can it be accessed for the network?


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