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Now that we know the HDR is fake... are there any actual atmos effects or is it just atmos encoded?
Question is why is the HDR fake and are they going to fix that and implement real HDR at some point?
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Now that we know the HDR is fake... are there any actual atmos effects or is it just atmos encoded?
Based on what I have watched in Atmos
On D+, it seems like real Atmos to me. The Force Awakens In particular has some of the best Atmos and directional effects I’ve heard yet.
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I wonder if the issue is region specific - I’m in Canada - I think OliverQC is as well. I’m going to check it again today. I remember it happened before over a weekend. Maybe too many requesting the stream?


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Mandalorian is not meant to be an HDR showcase. The muted look is most likely how it is intended to look. If you want more of an HDR showcase check out TFA/RO. I’m not sure they (Disney) need to do anything but follow directors intent (IMO). We’ll get a mix of showcase and muted looks as we should
I wonder if anyone would even have paid attention or noticed the so-called "Fake HDR" bru ha ha had it not suddenly popped up on some sites ..
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I wonder if anyone would even have paid attention or noticed the so-called "Fake HDR" bru ha ha had it not suddenly popped up on some sites ..
Agreed, wouldn't be surprised if other services to something similar. I did feel like some of the shows were a bit dim though, before seeing the "news".

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Checked again this morning- still 5.1 and now in French even though I’ve selected English - very weird.




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Update- called customer service - they are aware of the issues and are working on a fix - hint of an update to the app tomorrow- I’m using an ATV 4K.


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Based on what I have watched in Atmos
On D+, it seems like real Atmos to me. The Force Awakens In particular has some of the best Atmos and directional effects I’ve heard yet.
It is real Atmos. Whether it's using lossy or lossless.
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I wonder if anyone would even have paid attention or noticed the so-called "Fake HDR" bru ha ha had it not suddenly popped up on some sites ..


I doubt it, people would just say it’s not a showcase (which is true). Now all we’ll see is people calling it “fake”, which is unfortunate. Reminds me of the “real vs fake” 4K Blu-Ray movement, which thankfully has simmered down.
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Update- called customer service - they are aware of the issues and are working on a fix - hint of an update to the app tomorrow- I’m using an ATV 4K.


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I doubt it, people would just say it’s not a showcase (which is true). Now all we’ll see is people calling it “fake”, which is unfortunate. Reminds me of the “real vs fake” 4K Blu-Ray movement, which thankfully has simmered down.
I noticed it right off the bat. But I agree, I wouldn't call it fake, just "meh". One can say director's intent, but we haven't heard anything to back that up. Why not give it a little extra pop regarding HDR?

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I noticed it right off the bat. But I agree, I wouldn't call it fake, just "meh". One can say director's intent, but we haven't heard anything to back that up. Why not give it a little extra pop regarding HDR?



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Why would Disney pay the licensing fees for Dolby Vision if they aren't going to take advantage of it?


I would say Directors intent as you can watch Rogue One and The Force Awakens as stark differences. Mandalorian tracks closer to the OT with a bit of the New thrown in. If the director or DoP don’t want it to “pop like crazy” then why would Disney do that, possibly pissing off someone they would want to work with. Dolby Vision will be used differently by everyone, just because you CAN do eye candy type things doesn’t mean you should or want to do those things. Sure, it looks great when done, but I’d rather see what the director/creator/DoP want.
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I’ve been checking everyday and the language and audio issues I mention prior have still not been fixed at least here in Canada. OlivierQC have you seen any change on your end? I’ve even deleted and reinstalled the app on my ATV 4K.


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Nothing has changed,

Yesterday morning I have atmos on SW and the afternoon only in 5.1

whether with the tv app (v1.20) or on the atv 4k (v1.16)

This morning all SW are in 5.1

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V 1.2 for ATV seems to have fixed the issues. Atmos and language are correct again in SW Ep 4. Yay!


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Currently using the LG Webos App on my B7 OLED. Still without 5.1 (or Atmos). Running a 2.0 Stereo only. All other apps I used (Netflix, FandangoNow,Vudu, GooglePlay,AmazonP) run at least a 5.1 surround set up. I have called Disney support twice, both reps had no knowledge of any issues. They entered the ticket anyway.

No idea when there will be a fix, but I do check pretty much daily.
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Currently using the LG Webos App on my B7 OLED. Still without 5.1 (or Atmos). Running a 2.0 Stereo only. All other apps I used (Netflix, FandangoNow,Vudu, GooglePlay,AmazonP) run at least a 5.1 surround set up. I have called Disney support twice, both reps had no knowledge of any issues. They entered the ticket anyway.



No idea when there will be a fix, but I do check pretty much daily.


Looks like Disney updated it in background today and it (LG internal app) is offering Atmos now.
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Looks like Disney updated it in background today and it (LG internal app) is offering Atmos now.
Well look at that. They sure did. Thanks for the heads up. Nice!
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Looks like Disney updated it in background today and it (LG internal app) is offering Atmos now.
The internal version now matches the external version (1.1.5) as displayed in the LG content store - the 1.1.5 "update" (that wasn't) from a month ago (11/18).

Since this is a mostly externally hosted app with a stub/re-director (you can tell by the size), it was a clearly an issue with the downloadable package from the external server (ahem, Disney), which is why the app actually-updated to 1.1.5 without a notification from the LG store. Perhaps Disney now understands they manage their own app hosting server...

Also, this is not the "Magic Remote" enabling update as promised - in fact, this effectively disables the Magic Remote in-app. So there should be another update "coming soon" (soon being mid-Q2 '20 apparently) that actually enables the Magic Remote.

But I'll take 5.1/Atmos audio over optimized use of the Magic Remote, though it'd be better to have that too.
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With Sony, version 1.2.2 still only getting stereo utilizing ARC. anyone else still with this problem? I get a second of utilizing all the speakers before it flips to stereo.




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