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I know Jack Ryan has Dolby Vision on the Shield.

Season 1.
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Anyone aware of any updates when Atmos support is going to be available for the Shield's Disney+ app?
I'm also waiting. Other apps support both Dolby vision and Atmos just fine, I.E. Vudu.
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FWIW I tried both the intelsat and flirc receivers. I found that because the flirc was programmable, there were more commands available using the flirc. I used a short USB extender (Male-female) I had on hand to better position the flirc.
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Wendell, Flirc has a full keyboard set of programmable keys, various Kodi media keys, in addition to the small set of shield keys. My personal favorites are chapter forward, chapter back, and the stop key -none of which were possible on the supplied shield remote.
I thought this was about FLIRC vs Inteset IReTV USB IR Receiver as in your OP. If you look at the insets (here) you can see the commands available from the Harmony 650 and Inteset INT-422. The Inteset IReTV USB IR receiver is not the limitation of commands, it is the source device and the number of commands made available by Nvidia.

A good number of consumer devices (including Nivdia) use the NEC IR protocol for their IR remote controls. It is 8 bit so for each device code there can be 255 commands.

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I thought this was about FLIRC vs Inteset IReTV USB IR Receiver as in your OP. If you look at the insets (here) you can see the commands available from the Harmony 650 and Inteset INT-422. The Inteset IReTV USB IR receiver is not the limitation of commands, it is the source device and the number of commands made available by Nvidia.

A good number of consumer devices (including Nivdia) use the NEC IR protocol for their IR remote controls. It is 8 bit so for each device code there can be 255 commands.
Wendell, It is about non-hub harmonys paired with either intelsat or the flirc to control a shield to best effect. You seem better informed on this subject than I do. I am satisfied with the flirc (not affiliated or sponsored by them in any way). Check out the Flirc Forum i.e. the post from randman (sorry I don't know how to post a link directly to it). He covers the important points better than I can. HTH.
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So far I’ve not been able to see dolby vision&atmos ‘jack ryan’ on Prime on Shield pro 2019 or XboxBox oneX. Can you confirm that you get DV/Atmos on shield pro for this show ?

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So far I’ve not been able to see dolby vision&atmos ‘jack ryan’ on Prime on Shield pro 2019 or XboxBox oneX. Can you confirm that you get DV/Atmos on shield pro for this show ?
It has DV for season 1 but no Atmos and season 2 is HDR with no Atmos.
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Wendell, Flirc has a full keyboard set of programmable keys, various Kodi media keys, in addition to the small set of shield keys. My personal favorites are chapter forward, chapter back, and the stop key -none of which were possible on the supplied shield remote.


Agree. BTW, if you read some of recent comments from Jason (admin) on the FLIRC forum he is trying to getting some of the newer codes for the 2019 Shield such as the Netflix button. IIRC he either works for Nvidia or used to.


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It has DV for season 1 but no Atmos and season 2 is HDR with no Atmos.


Thanks for the response mate. Amazon is iffy with their DV and Atmos. I have neither on the X1X and Shield Pro-19. I get DV but no atmos on Jack Ryan on my 2017 Sony TV android app.
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So far I’ve not been able to see dolby vision&atmos ‘jack ryan’ on Prime on Shield pro 2019 or XboxBox oneX. Can you confirm that you get DV/Atmos on shield pro for this show ?

Can’t comment on DV as I use a projector with my Shield Pro, but I get Atmos in season 1 - just binge watched it yesterday .


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New Nvidia Shield TV Pro announced! Faster SOC, Dolby Vision, new remote!

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Can’t comment on DV as I use a projector with my Shield Pro, but I get Atmos in season 1 - just binge watched it yesterday .


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Thanks for your response my friend. I've not seen Atmos or DV yet on any show on both devices X1X & SheildPro19. 4k. HDR & 5.1 Dd+ is all I get.( Prime)
I guess Prime is not consistent with formats based on geography like Netflix is. I'm assuming you gentlemen are from the states.
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Thanks for your response my friend. I've not seen Atmos or DV yet on any show on both devices X1X & SheildPro19. 4k. HDR & 5.1 Dd+ is all I get.( Prime)
I guess Prime is not consistent with formats based on geography like Netflix is. I'm assuming you gentlemen are from the states.
No problem. I know it's a US based forum - but wrong assumption lol. I'm UK based. Jack Ryan is one of the few series (streaming) that is - in my system - so close to disc based audio, that I reckon in a blind test, most wouldn't be able to tell the difference. It's a wonderfully immersive mix. If the picture and audio quality of this series was reflected in other streaming services it would make the decision to ditch physical media, so much easier.
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New Nvidia Shield TV Pro announced! Faster SOC, Dolby Vision, new remote!

Ha ha, ok. my mistake, I'm in India . The Dd5.1+ track is average, a well mastered Atmos track can make a huge difference.
Prime is kind of sub-prime down here I suppose .
I have to confess I have almost ditched physical media, I have several hundred Dvds and blu rays that I don't touch anymore,
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Curious if the Prime app, have Dolby Vision, for their limited titles?

I've only ever seen HDR not Dolby Vision.
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I have Shield TV PRo 2019 connected to Denon 4300H. My Denon receiver shows Dolby atoms when i play Jack Ryan season 2.
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It has DV for season 1 but no Atmos and season 2 is HDR with no Atmos.
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Ha ha, ok. my mistake, I'm in India . The Dd5.1+ track is average, a well mastered Atmos track can make a huge difference.
Prime is kind of sub-prime down here I suppose .
I have to confess I have almost ditched physical media, I have several hundred Dvds and blu rays that I don't touch anymore,
Have one working Blu-ray player the UDP-203,
several failing Blu-ray players including the BDP-83, that have to be sent overseas to be repaired etc. Hesitant to invest on the same content on UHD.
I still buy media, but the very first thing I do after removing the shrink wrap is to rip it to my server. I greatly enjoy the flexibility that streaming offers, and while I use Vudu, Prime and Movies Anywhere, if I have my media local I don't have to depend on my Internet to be working. While it's extremely rare to have Internet issues, watching something I have purchased means I'm not running up my data used. Yes, I have unlimited Internet, but it's still possible to get a warning about extreme data use. Someone hacked a server I set up at my daughter's, and they were using it as a spambot machine, and really hammering their Internet. Fortunately I discovered it quickly after CenturyLink alerted us.
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I watched the first episode of The Witcher on Netflix and noticed some motion artifacts. They're sort of a halting stutter that occurs fairly frequently. It reminds me of motion issues that can occur during engagement of frame interpolation.

This happens on the Shield Pro, but not when using my LG C8's internal Netflix app. Am I missing a setting somewhere?

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I watched the first episode of The Witcher on Netflix and noticed some motion artifacts. They're sort of a halting stutter that occurs fairly frequently. It reminds me of motion issues that can occur during engagement of frame interpolation.

This happens on the Shield Pro, but not when using my LG C8's internal Netflix app. Am I missing a setting somewhere?

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I've been searching around about this same issue. I see the same "halting stutter" on the show on the Fire Stick TV 4k, so it seems it must be an issue for certain versions of the Netflix app. Not sure why it seems to only be affecting this one show though.

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Agree. BTW, if you read some of recent comments from Jason (admin) on the FLIRC forum he is trying to getting some of the newer codes for the 2019 Shield such as the Netflix button. IIRC he either works for Nvidia or used to.


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Anyone have experience using the shield remote to control the volume on a onkyo reciever (rz820 to be specific)?

I could swear it was working fine until recently (possibly the .64 hotfix?), but now i can't hold the buttons to raise/lower volume, i have to click repeatedly, which makes changing volume very slow. I see the same behavior both via CEC & IR.
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Anyone have experience using the shield remote to control the volume on a onkyo reciever (rz820 to be specific)?



I could swear it was working fine until recently (possibly the .64 hotfix?), but now i can't hold the buttons to raise/lower volume, i have to click repeatedly, which makes changing volume very slow. I see the same behavior both via CEC & IR.
It's always worked that way for me with my rz830.

I was never able to hold down the button and get more than one click change. That's with both CEC and IR.
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Well, the wife was afraid to buy one for me in case she didn't get the right product, so gave me a Best Buy gift card. The web site showed 3 available at my local store, so I ordered it online and will pick it up tomorrow when the store opens. It will replace the Roku Ultra on my NU7100. The TV isn't DV, and I don't have an Atmos AVR in this location, so those two items aren't issues for me. I'll be leaving one of my two Ultra players connected (the 4640), so I can make some comparisons on that set. I'll move my Ultra 4670 to a small TV that now has a Roku Premiere on it, so I'll have power, mute and volume available with the Roku remote. The Premiere I'll probably connect to a small Roku TV I have in the guest bedroom. The Premiere performs much better than the built-in Roku functionality, but I wish I didn't have to have two remotes. Since it's usually only used when a grandkid spends the night, they're all savvy enough to figure it out.

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Not sure if people are aware but part of the reason I love the Apple TV is the 4K screensavers. Someone on Reddit mentioned this app and it behaves like a normal Shield screensaver while grabbing Apple's gorgeous 4K video files. (Sorry if it was already mentioned in the thread and I missed it.)

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Fortunately I have redundancy for data that I can't recover and the majority of the footprint on my NAS is 1:1 backups for BD and 4K BD discs but I would still flip numerous tables if someone wiped out hundreds of hours worth of backups I have done.
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I watched the first episode of The Witcher on Netflix and noticed some motion artifacts. They're sort of a halting stutter that occurs fairly frequently. It reminds me of motion issues that can occur during engagement of frame interpolation.



This happens on the Shield Pro, but not when using my LG C8's internal Netflix app. Am I missing a setting somewhere?



Thanks.
Change the display framerate on the shield tv pro to 23.976. That is what I was advised and it worked for me.

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I'd like some input on what kind of value your finding with your ATMOS and HDR/DV/HDR10+ sources. I'm asking because I've just upgraded my audio to a 5.1.2 ATMOS configuration and added a 2019 NV Tube with a UHD 4KWin10 HTPC attached. I've been blown away by the Dolby ATMOS demo app on the HTPC and some of the ATMOS material on YouTube. Although I don't have a DV or HDR10+ capabilities (4K HDR projector) the NV Tube has made a small improvement in the HDR picture brightness from all my streaming sources (Netflix, Prime and Plex).

So all is good but after a few weeks and watching as much HDR ATMOS content as possible, in general ATMOS labeled sources including BluRay seem to under utilize it's capabilities and although watchable, HDR streaming sources tend to be darker than they should be (e.g. Netflix Lost in Space season 2 must have saved money by always being shot in low light).

I had watched a review from a respected tech who indicated that there seems to be a lack of effort being put into utilizing these technologies (e.g. a BT709 color space in a BT2020 container). I'm assuming that is a cost cutting decision but it sure undercuts the market place for the consumer to upgrade their systems (audio/video). I've also read that Netflix recently changed their production requirements for future sources to all be in produced in 4K. I'll assume that is only for sources financed by Netflix.


I'm just curious if others are underwhelmed by the sources utilization of your set ups full capabilities? I'm still happy that I upgraded but ...
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I'd like some input on what kind of value your finding with your ATMOS and HDR/DV/HDR10+ sources. I'm asking because I've just upgraded my audio to a 5.1.2 ATMOS configuration and added a 2019 NV Tube with a UHD 4KWin10 HTPC attached. I've been blown away by the Dolby ATMOS demo app on the HTPC and some of the ATMOS material on YouTube. Although I don't have a DV or HDR10+ capabilities (4K HDR projector) the NV Tube has made a small improvement in the HDR picture brightness from all my streaming sources (Netflix, Prime and Plex).

So all is good but after a few weeks and watching as much HDR ATMOS content as possible, in general ATMOS labeled sources including BluRay seem to under utilize it's capabilities and although watchable, HDR streaming sources tend to be darker than they should be (e.g. Netflix Lost in Space season 2 must have saved money by always being shot in low light).

I had watched a review from a respected tech who indicated that there seems to be a lack of effort being put into utilizing these technologies (e.g. a BT709 color space in a BT2020 container). I'm assuming that is a cost cutting decision but it sure undercuts the market place for the consumer to upgrade their systems (audio/video). I've also read that Netflix recently changed their production requirements for future sources to all be in produced in 4K. I'll assume that is only for sources financed by Netflix.


I'm just curious if others are underwhelmed by the sources utilization of your set ups full capabilities? I'm still happy that I upgraded but ...


I agree it is pretty hit and miss. And I find most original Netflix stuff to do dark and dull commonly.

We are still in the growing phase of all these technologies, hopefully things get better. I have heard some of the same complaints you have been reading, that the tech is underutilized. Not much we can do though for now I suppose.
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Not sure if people are aware but part of the reason I love the Apple TV is the 4K screensavers. Someone on Reddit mentioned this app and it behaves like a normal Shield screensaver while grabbing Apple's gorgeous 4K video files. (Sorry if it was already mentioned in the thread and I missed it.)







I run a 8x 10TB Qnap NAS for all my discs backups and I got hit by someone attempting to login from a Russian IP and the NAS shut them out after too many attempts. Too bad for them that I have a ridiculous password generated by LastPass set as well as 2FA. Needless to say, I blacklisted their IP on my router.



Fortunately I have redundancy for data that I can't recover and the majority of the footprint on my NAS is 1:1 backups for BD and 4K BD discs but I would still flip numerous tables if someone wiped out hundreds of hours worth of backups I have done.


Thanks for this tip on the screensaver app. Pretty cool.


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I have Shield TV PRo 2019 connected to Denon 4300H. My Denon receiver shows Dolby atoms when i play Jack Ryan season 2.
I just tried both seasons again and your are correct, my Onkyo displays Atmos which is really strange because in the past it just said DolbyD+ and Atmos is not listed in the show info, it just states 5.1. Wonder if the have just 'flipped' Atmos on recently? Or maybe a recent app update? I haven't really watched Prime much lately because of the holidays.
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So far I’ve not been able to see dolby vision&atmos ‘jack ryan’ on Prime on Shield pro 2019 or XboxBox oneX. Can you confirm that you get DV/Atmos on shield pro for this show ?
For Jack ryan on the 2019 SHield TV pro I get DV and Atmos for Season 1.
For Season 2 I get HDR10 and Atmos.

Which is what is expected. Since I get Atmos for both seasons with other devices. And only season 1 had DV.
And my 2017 Shield TVs get Atmos for both seasons and of course HDR10 for both.

I'm using an Onkyo receiver in my DV setup and a Vizio speaker bar in my HDR10 setup.
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For Jack ryan on the 2019 SHield TV pro I get DV and Atmos for Season 1.

For Season 2 I get HDR10 and Atmos.



Which is what is expected. Since I get Atmos for both seasons with other devices. And only season 1 had DV.

And my 2017 Shield TVs get Atmos for both seasons and of course HDR10 for both.



I'm using an Onkyo receiver in my DV setup and a Vizio speaker bar in my HDR10 setup.

Hi Thanks for your response. In my case Shield-Pro2019 & X1X no DV or Atmos for both seasons. Only HDR with Ddp5.1. My system is A1E & Pio SC-LX901.

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Change the display framerate on the shield tv pro to 23.976. That is what I was advised and it worked for me.

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