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adam355 10-17-2019 08:38 AM

NVIDIA Shield Android TV set-top box Tegra X1+ (2019)
 
https://www.amazon.com/NVIDIA-Shield.../dp/B07YP9FBMM

Ships end of the month. Hopefully the dongle comes next!

  • The Best of the Best. Up to 25% faster than the previous generation thanks to the new NVIDIA Tegra X1+ chip. Enhance HD video in real-time to 4K for clearer, crisper visuals using next-generation AI upscaling. 2x USB 3.0 ports for storage expansion, USB cameras, keyboards, controllers, and more. Plex Media Server built-in, SmartThings hub-ready, AAA Android gaming, Twitch broadcasting, 3GB RAM, and 16GB storage.
  • Dolby Vision - Atmos. Bring your home theater to life with Dolby Vision HDR, and surround sound with Dolby Atmos and Dolby Digital Plus—delivering ultra-vivid picture quality and immersive audio.
  • Best-In-Class Design. Designed for the most demanding users and beautifully designed to be the perfect centerpiece of your entertainment center, SHIELD TV Pro levels you up to more storage space, the expandability of 2x USB 3.0 ports, Plex Media Server, and premium Android gaming. Get the best connectivity with Gigabit Ethernet, dual-band AC Wi-Fi, and Bluetooth 5.0. The all-new remote is more advanced than ever with motion-activated, backlit buttons—including a customizable menu button. Plus, with voice control, Bluetooth, IR control for your TV, and a built-in remote control locator, you have the most advanced remote yet.
  • Unlimited Entertainment. Enjoy the most 4K HDR content of any streaming media player, and access to thousands of apps and games, including top apps like Netflix,YouTube, Prime Video and Hulu. Listen from the most comprehensive collection of music services, including Amazon Music and Spotify. Add a game controller (sold separately) and play today’s most popular games like Fortnite. Even stream from your phone with built-in Chromecast 4K.
  • Voice Control. The built-in Google Assistant is at your command. See photos, live camera feeds, weather, sports scores, and more on the big screen. Dim the lights and immerse yourself in your favorite show or music using only your voice. And control your SHIELD hands-free with Google Home or Alexa and Amazon Echo.

edit: Amazon pulled the listing. Some screens here https://www.androidcentral.com/nvidi...e-early-amazon

edit2: New dongle just leaked on newegg. https://www.newegg.ca/black-nvidia-s...-018-_-Product



Pro Model:
https://www.androidcentral.com/sites...?itok=Pg-20kuV

Smaller dongle model:
https://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggIm...51-018-S01.jpg

markswift2003 10-17-2019 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adam355 (Post 58696154)

I saw that just before Amazon pulled the link - looks promising...

m_snow 10-17-2019 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adam355 (Post 58696154)
https://www.amazon.com/NVIDIA-Shield.../dp/B07YP9FBMM



Ships end of the month. Hopefully the dongle comes next!




  • The Best of the Best. Up to 25% faster than the previous generation thanks to the new NVIDIA Tegra X1+ chip. Enhance HD video in real-time to 4K for clearer, crisper visuals using next-generation AI upscaling. 2x USB 3.0 ports for storage expansion, USB cameras, keyboards, controllers, and more. Plex Media Server built-in, SmartThings hub-ready, AAA Android gaming, Twitch broadcasting, 3GB RAM, and 16GB storage.


  • Dolby Vision - Atmos. Bring your home theater to life with Dolby Vision HDR, and surround sound with Dolby Atmos and Dolby Digital Plus—delivering ultra-vivid picture quality and immersive audio.


  • Best-In-Class Design. Designed for the most demanding users and beautifully designed to be the perfect centerpiece of your entertainment center, SHIELD TV Pro levels you up to more storage space, the expandability of 2x USB 3.0 ports, Plex Media Server, and premium Android gaming. Get the best connectivity with Gigabit Ethernet, dual-band AC Wi-Fi, and Bluetooth 5.0. The all-new remote is more advanced than ever with motion-activated, backlit buttons—including a customizable menu button. Plus, with voice control, Bluetooth, IR control for your TV, and a built-in remote control locator, you have the most advanced remote yet.


  • Unlimited Entertainment. Enjoy the most 4K HDR content of any streaming media player, and access to thousands of apps and games, including top apps like Netflix,YouTube, Prime Video and Hulu. Listen from the most comprehensive collection of music services, including Amazon Music and Spotify. Add a game controller (sold separately) and play today’s most popular games like Fortnite. Even stream from your phone with built-in Chromecast 4K.


  • Voice Control. The built-in Google Assistant is at your command. See photos, live camera feeds, weather, sports scores, and more on the big screen. Dim the lights and immerse yourself in your favorite show or music using only your voice. And control your SHIELD hands-free with Google Home or Alexa and Amazon Echo.



edit: Amazon pulled the listing. Some screens here https://www.androidcentral.com/nvidi...e-early-amazon



Nice! What is meant by “That triangular shape, though? We'll just have to see about that.” Looks like the same rectangular shape as now to me unless the holder/base is throwing people off.


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movd 10-17-2019 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by m_snow (Post 58696388)
Nice! What is meant by “That triangular shape, though? We'll just have to see about that.” Looks like the same rectangular shape as now to me unless the holder/base is throwing people off.


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You can see what they mean by triangular by the second image here https://www.theverge.com/circuitbrea...ter-new-remote

Jeff5347 10-17-2019 11:04 AM

Ughh. 200 bucks... But that remote....hopefully much better than the slim one. I loathe the current one

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Jeff5347 10-17-2019 11:13 AM

Also curious if I should put my current shield for sale before the new one hits the shelves. What do you guys think? Did anyone see if this has an Ethernet connection as well? Just hope its better than the 2017 version

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adam355 10-17-2019 11:32 AM

Newegg just leaked the smaller model. Updated the op. https://www.newegg.ca/black-nvidia-s...-018-_-Product

m_snow 10-17-2019 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by movd (Post 58696724)
You can see what they mean by triangular by the second image here https://www.theverge.com/circuitbrea...ter-new-remote



It’s rectangular like it is already.


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jwort93 10-17-2019 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m_snow (Post 58697096)
It’s rectangular like it is already.


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Look at the top of it, it's profile is triangular, not the lengthwise shape of the device.


This image shows it better: https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/2Zgv...ild_remote.png

Tfid 10-17-2019 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff5347 (Post 58696798)
Ughh. 200 bucks... But that remote....hopefully much better than the slim one. I loathe the current one

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What are 'motion-activated' buttons?
I would still like to use my IR TV remote to control the Shield without using HDMI CEC, but there's no mention of an IR receiver on the base unit.
I will never use the Harmony Hub.
This remote will be more useful, but will probably sit in a drawer with the others while I use the TV's remote.

jwort93 10-17-2019 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tfid (Post 58697154)
What are 'motion-activated' buttons?
I would still like to use my IR TV remote to control the Shield without using HDMI CEC, but there's no mention of an IR receiver on the base unit.
I will never use the Harmony Hub.
This remote will be more useful, but will probably sit in a drawer with the others while I use the TV's remote.


It means the buttons light up when you pick up the remote.

m_snow 10-17-2019 12:29 PM

New Nvidia Shield TV Pro announced! Faster SOC, Dolby Vision, new remote!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jwort93 (Post 58697128)
Look at the top of it, it's profile is triangular, not the lengthwise shape of the device.


This image shows it better: https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/2Zgv...ild_remote.png



Okay. I thought you guys were talking about the device not the remote. I use my Harmony Elite anyway.


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mlknez 10-17-2019 12:51 PM

This is 2019!!! It should have:

1. HDMI 2.1
2. USB 3.2
3. Ethernet 2.5Gbps
4. Wifi 6 (802.11ax)
5. Bluetooth Class 5

Tfid 10-17-2019 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlknez (Post 58697372)
This is 2019!!! It should have:

1. HDMI 2.1
2. USB 3.2
3. Ethernet 2.5Gbps
4. Wifi 6 (802.11ax)
5. Bluetooth Class 5


And it should cost $400. Even at $200 I see no advantages of this to using my TV's Android TV interface. If I had an AVR that decoded HD audio, it would be another story, but I don't.
I used to be excited by the Shield until I got my TV and it was upgraded to Oreo.

davcole 10-17-2019 01:18 PM

Finally!

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DaveFi 10-17-2019 01:24 PM

As I said in the other thread, I use mine for game streaming, disappointing there is no hdmi 2.1 here.

JRock3x8 10-17-2019 01:32 PM

Why is a new thread necessary?


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adam355 10-17-2019 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRock3x8 (Post 58697568)
Why is a new thread necessary?


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People that don't follow the current shield are not going to know a couple new ones are launching without a new thread title. Why does it bother you? It will eventually bury and the main thread will stay alive like always

Archaea 10-17-2019 08:40 PM

New Nvidia Shield TV Pro announced! Faster SOC, Dolby Vision, new remote!
 
Strange no HDMI 2.1

On the other hand HDMI 2.1 threatens G-Sync’s status — so maybe not so surprising.

ggw2000 10-18-2019 10:06 AM

I'll wait and look for reviews of the new one before making a decision. The last released Shield had "soft" PQ compared to the ATV4K and ROKU Ultra in my visual testing. Sold it but always on the outlook for a great streamer that checks all my needs.
Gerry

dkersten 10-18-2019 03:31 PM

Interesting, the image on my 150" wide screen is far from "soft", and the Shield is my only source. Sounds like a media issue...

I'm really happy to finally see an update to the Shield. I am particularly interested in the improved upscaling since you can't set the Shield to 1080p and still get 4k stream sources, and manually changing it back and forth is a pain, so leaving it on 4k and letting it do the upscaling is the best option, but the upscaling wasn't the best out there by any stretch. This checks off a huge item if it works signficantly better.

More speed is always welcome, not that the Shield was slow with the regular Tegra chip. WAY faster than any smart TV or even FireTV or Roku.

I'm interested in the smaller, cheaper unit for my regular TV's, but nervous about heat. The current Shield (non-pro) does not do well if the unit is set vertically against a wall instead of laying horizontal on a shelf. It overheats like crazy and requires almost daily reboots. But I really like the idea of getting rid of the FireTV's in the house because they suck at supporting so many codecs and force my Plex server to transcode. The Shield can play everything direct already, so at this point all I care about is features and better thermal handling. Not having to have a wall wart power cord is a bonus for wall mounted TV's with the electrical behind the TV too... much less bulky and easier to hide the wires.

As for other features it has or anyone thinks it should have, here are my thoughts:
Dolby Vision: I don't care about DV since my main use is on a projector, and now frame by frame dynamic tone mapping pretty much makes DV obsolete. The only upside to DV now is 12 bit color, but frankly a billion colors is good enough for me... I don't need 64 billion, lol. When displays capable of showing all 64 billion colors come out, then I might reconsider.

HDMI 2.1: Sure, it SOUNDS like it would be great to have and be futureproof and all that, but since there is exactly zero media, zero source devices, and few displays that can leverage over 18gbps, that leaves the other features like advanced ARC, and I don't care about those, nor do I believe any of that would be followed well enough to work anyway. As it is, ARC rarely works, even within the same brand, and it's because nobody follows the full standard. As with HDMI2.0 and 2.0b, it took years for manufacturers to follow it enough for everything to work together as well as it does now, and to this day MOST cables that are 2.0b spec still can't do 18gbps, so why does anyone want to jump into a format that will require 48gbps over copper? I have no desire for 4k60 as it is now, and even less for 4k120, and since it will be years or more before 8k media is even available, I am content to wait another decade to make the switch, and by then I might be ready for an upgrade...

Ethernet: I have over 100 4k HDR titles now and I don't think any of them have more than an 80mbps bitrate, so why would having more than 1000mbps be important? I have a 10g network, and I leverage it when moving big files around (I have 64tb of storage and it is almost full already, and moving 64tb to other disks at gigbit speeds is rough), but the fact is, 99.999% of the time I have no use for anything more than gigabit, and in the case of media devices like a shield, no use for anything more than 100mbps. Less than a year ago I upgraded so 2 devices can use 10gbe, and it came at an added cost of around $600, and that is AFTER I pre-wired my house with cat6a shielded cable. How many people would spend hundreds more to get 2.5gbe when the device would NEVER exceed 1gb?

Wireless faster than "a", same thing, if your existing wifi can handle 80mbps, it can already play media faster than the highest bandwidth media, so there is no need for faster in a media player.

Bluetooth: The current BT remote can extend through walls and over 30 feet, so unless your goal is to control your neighbors device, I'm not sure what the point is. If there are features missing in the version of BT that this device has, then I am not aware of it.

Just my 2 cents, but while I have looked forward to a new shield for a while now, the truth is I only wanted a newer model because I wanted the few flaws it has to be perfected. It doesn't sound like the new one is perfect, but it does sound better than what we have, and I will drop some cash to have it...

DaveFi 10-18-2019 04:29 PM

https://media.gizmodo.co.uk/wp-conte.../ap_resize.png

Some on reddit are speculating that there's a USB-C type port over the HDMI on the dongle. I hope so- we'll have to see. If not it's worthless to me. The amount of internal memory doesn't really matter as long as you can add a MicroSD card and use external devices like my Smartthings Dongle.

whiteboy714 10-21-2019 02:26 PM

Still no official info... weird that two sites would leak it same day. Wonder if it was pulled from some reason.

mtthwgrms 10-22-2019 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteboy714 (Post 58713492)
Still no official info... weird that two sites would leak it same day. Wonder if it was pulled from some reason.

Yeah it seems quite odd with it having that 10/28 date which is now less than a week away :confused:

Tfid 10-22-2019 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveFi (Post 58702642)
https://media.gizmodo.co.uk/wp-conte.../ap_resize.png

Some on reddit are speculating that there's a USB-C type port over the HDMI on the dongle. I hope so- we'll have to see. If not it's worthless to me. The amount of internal memory doesn't really matter as long as you can add a MicroSD card and use external devices like my Smartthings Dongle.


I've heard of display port over USB-C and Ethernet over HDMI, but USB-C over HDMI? Is that a thing?
I have the Smartthings USB dongle for the Shiled. I set it up with a few devices. I activated my Smartthings account in the Google Home app for voice control.

DaveFi 10-22-2019 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tfid (Post 58717412)
I've heard of display port over USB-C and Ethernet over HDMI, but USB-C over HDMI? Is that a thing?
I have the Smartthings USB dongle for the Shiled. I set it up with a few devices. I activated my Smartthings account in the Google Home app for voice control.

Well, it looks like a USB-C port. It would be kind of odd to release an Android based device with no USB ports of any kind. Even the (often) $25 4k Fire TV Stick has a USB port.

William Savona 10-23-2019 08:07 PM

They updated the companion smartphone app today. Just another step towards releasing this thing already.

*refreshes Nvidia site for the 100x time today*

whiteboy714 10-23-2019 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William Savona (Post 58724216)
They updated the companion smartphone app today. Just another step towards releasing this thing already.



*refreshes Nvidia site for the 100x time today*



Did you look in the original Shield thread? Some folks found them at local Best Buy’s.

gadgtfreek 10-24-2019 04:22 PM

Be curious to know if the new version has a was to disable DV and just use HDR10? Also, did Nvidia ever work out framerate and dynamic range matching like Roku and ATV4K? When I had the shield a couple of years ago, you kinda had to pick dynamic range at times depending on what you were watching.

whiteboy714 10-24-2019 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gadgtfreek (Post 58728534)
Be curious to know if the new version has a was to disable DV and just use HDR10? Also, did Nvidia ever work out framerate and dynamic range matching like Roku and ATV4K? When I had the shield a couple of years ago, you kinda had to pick dynamic range at times depending on what you were watching.

Dynamic range is working on the old Shield, frame rate matching I believe is still not an option. Usually if your device doesn't support DV it will just come up as standard HDR.


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