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post #1 of 22 Old 03-19-2020, 08:55 AM - Thread Starter
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European Union Urges Netflix to Slow Streaming Speeds

Updated: Netflix Will Cut Streaming Quality in Europe for 30 Days

Following news earlier today that the European Union had urged Netflix to throttle its streaming in order to preserve Internet bandwidth, the BBC now reports that Netflix will in fact slow down streaming speeds for 30 days in Europe. The change is expected to reduce bandwidth requirements by 25% and help the Internet cope with increased demand.

(Editor's note: This is a perfect excuse to revisit your disc-based movie collection... it saves bandwidth)

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The coronavirus pandemic is serving as a stress test for the Internet as people adjust to working from home as well as entertaining themselves at home. Netflix consumes over 10% of global Internet bandwidth, so a surge in use has a noticeable impact on the entire network.

According to CNN Business, European Commissioner Thierry Breton has recommended that subscribers "Switch to standard definition when HD is not necessary" - read more here.
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Whatever it takes to keep everything flowing and reduce the chances of outages.
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That is foreshadowing what could occur here in the US and North America in general, hopefully Netflix is taking extra steps here to expand the load capacity.

But yeah another reason to have physical media still.
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Don't fergit OTA TV (over the air)...and it's cost is very reasonable!
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But the internet worships..European broadband service and decries ours. Karma is an electronic god... Everybody working at home might want to practice this "No streaming till I'm done with work".
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Apparently the European information superhighway has no Autobahn.

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I am in Italy and the Internet is already slow af and we are being gouged. Lucky for me I stay physical media and there are no limitations on peer to peer downloads. I would be pissed if I was paying for a streaming service. ISPs, infrastructure, etc. should have planned better.
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Now Disney+ as well...

Disney Plus to Cut Bandwidth Use by 25% for Europe Launch, Debut in France Delayed
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This awful worldwide virus will impact a lot more than internet speed in the weeks ahead.

On a side note, both my new Sony televisions stopped playing internal app - Disney+ in Dolby Vision (for no apparent reason) about a month ago.

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Apparently Apple is reducing bitrate here in the US similar to Europe for Apple TV+. Have a Fire Cube 2, and previously with 4K HDR, bit rate was quite high for Apple TV+, over 35 Mbps. Now, it's down to 10 to 15 Mbps at best for 4K HDR, most time, under 10.
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Everything is smaller in Europe including the average TV size, but going 480p at this stage, well that is FUBAR. BTW my ISP just sent an email that while they do see a big jump on usage as expected they don't see anything alarming at all. And since I'm in one of the states and counties that have shelter in place order I expect this problem not to raise it's ugly head here, based on their assessment.

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Apparently Apple is reducing bitrate here in the US similar to Europe for Apple TV+. Have a Fire Cube 2, and previously with 4K HDR, bit rate was quite high for Apple TV+, over 35 Mbps. Now, it's down to 10 to 15 Mbps at best for 4K HDR, most time, under 10.
Streaming in the US is not one centralized business, your issue could be limited to your area or might be ISP related. Any of your other subscriptions show similar decline in speed?

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Streaming in the US is not one centralized business, your issue could be limited to your area or might be ISP related. Any of your other subscriptions show similar decline in speed?
Nope, Netflix continues to show 30 to 35 Mbps for 4K HDR along with Disney+. It’s just Apple TV+ that has dropped off significantly.
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Ok, but it doesn't mean that is in the entire USA.

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Ok, but it doesn't mean that is in the entire USA.
Most people don't go into developer mode on their streaming device to see what bit rate they are getting from each app. So most would be oblivious if Apple lowered the bitrate as HDR window still pops up on their tv.
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Most people don't go into developer mode on their streaming device to see what bit rate they are getting from each app. So most would be oblivious if Apple lowered the bitrate as HDR window still pops up on their tv.
Again, your claim that Apple in the entire US is slowing it's speed is just a speculation with no empirical evidence to back it up at this time nor a statement from Apple . Moving on!

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Again, your claim that Apple in the entire US is slowing it's speed is just a speculation with no empirical evidence to back it up at this time nor a statement from Apple . Moving on!
Can you get into developer mode to help us out, or do you want to be of no help?

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During the daytime, my Gigabit Internet service slows way, way down. I can't even break 10 Mbps during working hours. In the evening it's getting up to 60 or 70 Mbps, which is fine for UHD streams. But during the daytime, at least for now during the stay-at-home and social distancing orders, the bandwidth for my ISP (Comcast) is just not there.

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