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Which is more stable for streaming - Roku or Amazon Fire Stick?

The streaming on my Sony Android TV isn't the greatest. It's very sluggish and can cause choppy video sometimes. It's enough to drive me crazy, so since streaming sticks are fairly cheap, I think it's best that I buy one if it means better performance.


I used to have a Roku 2 before owning my Sony Smart TV, but I thought the Roku was worse in terms of stability. Apps would constantly freeze up and I had to keep rebooting the box. Maybe the newer Roku devices are better, but my past experience with Roku makes me question how stable they are. So, I'm considering trying out the Amazon Fire Stick. I'm mainly going to use the Fire Stick for Netflix, Hulu, YouTube, Vudu, GooglePlay and hopefully Apple TV (which will be a bonus as I don't get that on my Android). I think both Roku and the Fire Stick are both compatible with those apps, so the question here is, the performance!



So how is the Amazon Fire Stick compared to a Roku? Is it more stable and perform better overall?
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No experience with Fire Stick, but my Roku Premiere Plus (about 3 years old now) is very stable. No issues whatsoever. Even my 5-year-old Roku 3 has been good - no problems at all.

How is your wifi? How stable is your connection?

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No experience with Fire Stick, but my Roku Premiere Plus (about 3 years old now) is very stable. No issues whatsoever. Even my 5-year-old Roku 3 has been good - no problems at all.

How is your wifi? How stable is your connection?

This would be my first time using Wi-Fi for streaming. I've always had my Smart TV connected via ethernet. My internet speed goes up to 150 mbps, but the damn Ethernet port on the TV only goes up to 100 mbps. I don't suspect a wi-fi connection will go any faster but even if it cuts my 150 mbps speed in half, then that still should be more than enough to stream even 4K.
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Oh, OK. Yeah, actually, if you have an option to run a wired connection (even at 100 Mbps), that's still better than wifi because a wired connection is not subject to interference.

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My wife uses one of our Fire TV 4K sticks daily. I haven't heard any complaints from her (about streaming anyway ).

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i wouldnt use an amazon firestick even if it was given to me for free. i do not have any personal experiencewith roku other than my daughter’s roku tv, but that thing is stable and she/i have had zero issues.

firesticks are garbage. stick with roku or nvida sticks, or apple tv.


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Another vote for Roku; my Premiere has performed flawlessly.

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If ya'all knew how to properly "use" a Firestick,.....never mind.
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Yeah, after doing research, I just realized that the Vudu app is not supported on the Fire Stick, which is stupid. Not to mention that the YouTube app wasn't supported at one point due to Amazon's dispute with Google, which is even more retarded. I'll get the Roku. It's pretty much 100% guaranteed to work with all the apps I plan to use.
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Yeah, after doing research, I just realized that the Vudu app is not supported on the Fire Stick, which is stupid. Not to mention that the YouTube app wasn't supported at one point due to Amazon's dispute with Google, which is even more retarded. I'll get the Roku. It's pretty much 100% guaranteed to work with all the apps I plan to use.
Way off. Lack of experience.
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Which is more stable for streaming - Roku or Amazon Fire Stick?

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Way off. Lack of experience.


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If ya'all knew how to properly "use" a Firestick,.....never mind.


because you’re the only one who has experience with, and is allowed to give an opinion about, a firestick?

get over yourself.


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because you’re the only one who has experience with, and is allowed to give an opinion about, a firestick?

get over yourself.


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C'mon man. I think you know what I am eluding to in regards to "using" a Firestick.
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I have both FTV Sticks and Rokus. Both perform fine. On YouTubeTV, I had some problems with Roku freezing up when switching channels, not on FTV.


I prefer user interface of Roku. I prefer multi device remote options of FTV, the ability to connect bluetooth devices, and the ability to side-load KODI for playing local video media.
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Are there any caveats with being forced to use Wi-Fi on the streaming stick? I used ethernet to hook up to my Android TV, but like I said, the LAN port on the TV only goes up to 100 mbps. So I'm not even getting the full 150 mbps internet speed that I have; not that I really need it though. Since the streaming sticks only let me stream via Wi-Fi, will that mean that I'm downgrading my speed? I can't imagine it would since the new streaming sticks have 802.11ac MIMO dual-band wireless, which means it should be able to receive high speed over wireless. Heck, I probably might get the full 150 mbps speed as opposed to the 100 mbps I'm currently getting via Ethernet.
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Since the streaming sticks only let me stream via Wi-Fi, will that mean that I'm downgrading my speed? I can't imagine it would since the new streaming sticks have 802.11ac MIMO dual-band wireless, which means it should be able to receive high speed over wireless.
Theoretical wifi speeds and actual wifi speeds are two very different things - a lot of factors impact your wifi speeds - how good/powerful your wifi router is, how far away from the device it is, how many walls and other obstructions are between the router and the device, how many other wifi networks are nearby that cause interference, etc. That's why I said earlier that a wired connection is always more stable/reliable, even if it provides slightly lower theoretical speed.

If you want to use a wired connection, you can buy an Ethernet adapter for your Fire Stick:
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Nothing at all wrong with a Fire TV Stick. I bought the original when it first came out and while it was OK, I did have some problems. During a Prime Day special, I replaced it with the new generation stick and it works very well. If you watch Amazon, you can often get these for about $20. At that price, it is a no-brainer to own one.
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I've had some problems with our Roku Expresses freezing and stuttering on YouTube TV (particularly in commercials for whatever reason). The Roku Express is a stand alone unit that has a USB cord for power - I found that instead of plugging it into the TV's, if you use a phone charger style wall wart, it seems a lot more stable. I suspect the TV is not able to provide as much juice via USB as the wall wart.

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Theoretical wifi speeds and actual wifi speeds are two very different things - a lot of factors impact your wifi speeds - how good/powerful your wifi router is, how far away from the device it is, how many walls and other obstructions are between the router and the device, how many other wifi networks are nearby that cause interference, etc. That's why I said earlier that a wired connection is always more stable/reliable, even if it provides slightly lower theoretical speed.

If you want to use a wired connection, you can buy an Ethernet adapter for your Fire Stick:
https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Ethern.../dp/B074TC662N

This is my router:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/netgear...?skuId=8827854


Seems like it will deliver high speed, especially if I use 5G. The router is not far at all from my TV. It's literally 5 feet away, which is why I never had an issue hooking up my streaming via Ethernet.
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How is your wifi? How stable is your connection?

With an adapter it is possible to use ethernet with an Amazon Fire Stick. Wifi isn't a requirement. I'm not suggesting you meant it was wifi only. I just wanted to point out that it's possible and for some of us the preferred connection method. It does make this kind of device more 'stable'.
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@MrHT ... I use this set up on my Fire Tv pendants and sticks. By adding the IRe TV receiver you can control it with an IR remote, Harmony 650 or 665 in my case. Works great.
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With an adapter it is possible to use ethernet with an Amazon Fire Stick. Wifi isn't a requirement. I'm not suggesting you meant it was wifi only. I just wanted to point out that it's possible and for some of us the preferred connection method. It does make this kind of device more 'stable'.
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I've used a Roku stick, Fire Stick, and Fire TV. After a few weeks, the Roku was put away, just wasn't using it and nothing drew me to it. Fire stick and Fire TV both had far more utility. I only currently use the fire stick 4k. But that's not really much at all since I stream Prime, Hulu, Netflix, and Vudu through my 4k BluRay player.

It seems I have no need for a stick of any sort now. It seems to me that to move back to a stick it would only be to utilize Kodi. And my experience over the last few years with that basically says, forget it. I don't have a digital or physical library of media, so Kodi or Shield don't really have a place for me.

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The Fire Stick 4K (or Amazon devices in general) do not carry Vudu nor Google Play apps, go Roku if you want those apps. In other words the Fire Stick 4K (I own one myself) is a very good streamer for sure (don't listen to Matthew Patient, he's completely useless when it comes to questions like this), but the Roku Ultra would support more apps yet the former has better HDR support (HDR10, HDR10+, and Dolby Vision compared to just HDR10 only on Roku players).
And personally I'm no die hard fan of Roku's UI neither because they've been using the same UI for about almost 7-8 years now.
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The streaming on my Sony Android TV isn't the greatest. It's very sluggish and can cause choppy video sometimes. It's enough to drive me crazy, so since streaming sticks are fairly cheap, I think it's best that I buy one if it means better performance.


I used to have a Roku 2 before owning my Sony Smart TV, but I thought the Roku was worse in terms of stability. Apps would constantly freeze up and I had to keep rebooting the box. Maybe the newer Roku devices are better, but my past experience with Roku makes me question how stable they are. So, I'm considering trying out the Amazon Fire Stick. I'm mainly going to use the Fire Stick for Netflix, Hulu, YouTube, Vudu, GooglePlay and hopefully Apple TV (which will be a bonus as I don't get that on my Android). I think both Roku and the Fire Stick are both compatible with those apps, so the question here is, the performance!
So how is the Amazon Fire Stick compared to a Roku? Is it more stable and perform better overall?
I have to think something's going on with your network, streams on any device these days shouldn't freeze, etc., seems like there is something strange going on besides the streaming hardware used/using. I guess one thing, make sure you have updated firmware on all devices you are using.
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The Fire Stick 4K (or Amazon devices in general) do not carry Vudu nor Google Play apps, go Roku if you want those apps. In other words the Fire Stick 4K (I own one myself) is a very good streamer for sure (don't listen to Matthew Patient, he's completely useless when it comes to questions like this), but the Roku Ultra would support more apps yet the former has better HDR support (HDR10, HDR10+, and Dolby Vision compared to just HDR10 only on Roku players).
And personally I'm no die hard fan of Roku's UI neither because they've been using the same UI for about almost 7-8 years now.

Wow, how on earth can Amazon get away with not supporting Vudu or GooglePlay? That just seems silly.
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I have to think something's going on with your network, streams on any device these days shouldn't freeze, etc., seems like there is something strange going on besides the streaming hardware used/using. I guess one thing, make sure you have updated firmware on all devices you are using.

No, it was definitely the Roku 2 itself that was having issues. That thing was glitchy as hell. I don't have any freezing issues with my Android TV. It just it doesn't handle multi-tasking very well, so if it's doing something in the background, the video may get choppy. Kind of like when playing videos on the computer and it gets choppy because you're doing work in the background. It just seems like the Android TV I have doesn't have very good RAM to multi-task. I'm hoping there will be a firmware update one day that will help the TV's memory management so that stops happening. But since I've owned this TV for a year already and have updated the firmware twice and have experienced no improvement, then I'm not keeping my hopes up.
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Wow, how on earth can Amazon get away with not supporting Vudu or GooglePlay? That just seems silly.

They seem to be doing fine without that support, although I think its more up to Google to add Google Music and Movies, as they already have developed YouTube and YouTube TV apps for Fire TV, and Youtube enables the music subscriptions. Same for Vudu, its up to them, not Amazon, to create an app for the FTV.


While not supported, you can sideload google play and get various apps, but YMMV.
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No, it was definitely the Roku 2 itself that was having issues. That thing was glitchy as hell.

Old models like the Roku 2 definitely lack the horsepower to keep up with today's apps and services.
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i wouldnt use an amazon firestick even if it was given to me for free. i do not have any personal experiencewith roku other than my daughter’s roku tv, but that thing is stable and she/i have had zero issues.

firesticks are garbage. stick with roku or nvida sticks, or apple tv.


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My Roku 2recently failed, replaced by an Ultra. Roku streams all providers.

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