Originally Posted by Beelinator
What would also be interesting is input lag. On the 55EC9300 this doesn't seem to be a problem (below 40ms), but as 4K sets usually have more lag (even the Sony), I would like to know if gaming is feasible on this set - never mind possible IR. Maybe jh87 could hook up one of his Xboxes, or wicklow ask this question at the LG event.
I preorderd the 65EC9700 four weeks ago at an electronic shop here in Austria, when they had a "special price" of 6.000 € (approx. 7.500 $). According to them the tv could arrive before Christmas, gut no guarantees. I have the option to test this set at the dealer shop before taking it home, so I prepared pictures with different shades of gray, videos for banding tests, and so on. Still don't know if I should take such an early set, or wait for an M2 model. But at this "low" price, it will depend on my tests I think...
Still, if the input lag would be too high anyway, maybe I'll get a 55" instead and wait for CES, to see what OLED models are to arrive 2015. So any input on gaming would be highly appreciated - thanks.
Please, when referring to input lag you must be specific. There are different forms of input lag numbers you can get from TV's. If you send a 4K TV a 1080P signal, it has to be up-converted. This add's significant delay. So anything that sends out a 1080P signal like a PS4 or Xbone will have to go through this circuitry.
Now more interestingly, what is the input lag numbers for bypassing most of the circuitry with feeding the TV a native 4K signal from a computer? That is a more important number IMO.
I've noticed a lot of TV's input lag numbers drop dramatically when feeding them with a native 4K signal from a computer and ensuring you are using the correct HDMI 2.0 port configured as "game" or "PC" mode. Bypass as much junk circuitry as possible..
So in reality this day and age reviewers need to present TWO input lag numbers. Any reviews that don't provide any input lag numbers aren't worth reading IMO.
Originally Posted by wicklow
We'll team here are my findings from the LG event.
1. There will be flat versions of the 65 and 77 coming in June in the us.
2. The ec9700 will be replaced by the eg9600 in March. The person mentioned that it is a redesign and that I should wait to purchase that one. He said that the ones available today were a somehow limited run perhaps speculation about the new production facility has something to do with this.
3. The ec9700 is basically a bigger 4k version of the ec9300. It has the same web os speed etc.
4. Nothing was known of BFI or of CMS problems.
5. The 77 would be available in July 2015.
6. The flexible version might be available in the second half of 2105 but I wouldn't hold my breath.
7. One rep mentioned that they were now (with production improvements) getting 80% yields on the 65, but only 30% on the 77.
8. They wouldn't let me use my USB stick, they wouldn't deviate from the test material. It was the standard demo that we have all seen many times but never this good.
9. The ec9700 was produced in August in Korea. The back of the 77 was locked so I couldn't see anything and there were no stickers to spy.
10. Nothing was known of the bright level question but these were on display in a large atrium style room with a 2 story ceiling of glass with very bright lighting and they looked magnificent. Zero bright room viewing issues with these puppies.
Lastly, I have to say that they were easily the most beautiful displays I have ever laid eyes on. They were stunning. You simply have to see one to appreciate it but it's going to be very hard for me now to buy anything else. I have had many high quality by any standards displays, and these are of a different caliber fwiw. I was able to view them alongside a 105" curved 4k ips panel and a flat 4k 98" ips. Additionally, the showroom floor was right next to the demo area and I spent a lot of time walking back and forth between what are now regarded as good high quality displays and these and there is simply no competition, there was a 85" xbr950 on display with blu ray source fed ca winter soldier playing that while excellent in its own right looked flat and synthetic compared to the oleds. Not to get all teary eyed on you but we live in a fantastic time for video junkies.
Is there any word on a 55" Curved 4K OLED coming out? I would die to get one of those on my desk for flight simulator use.
Also, for computer monitor use some questions:
Does the TV have built in anti-burn in features? Can an OLED TV be used as a computer monitor without harming it?
What kind of lifespan are we looking at with these new OLED? Is the blue pixel issue still around? Or are we talking tens of thousands of usable hours like LCD's?