Originally Posted by R Harkness
But rogo, since everyone already owns a flat panel, buying a new one is predicated on replacing one's current TV.
So a comparison of the TVs we CAN BUY - e.g. the LCDS - to the current TVs we own is extremely relevant.
There's an awful lot of navel gazing. You couldn't give me a Kuro. Or a Sharp Elite for that matter. Either would be useless in my house.
The problem I have with these discussions is that many of them presume a choice we have today is to be compared against some other choice that no one has had for several years
. If someone has a TV they love and they are on the fence about buying a new one, the answer is really simple: Don't buy one. Your TV is something that gives you joy. If you are here telling us about how you think maybe God's gift to TV isn't cutting it and maybe God's newer gift might be better, but you're pretty sure God's older gift is still better, well that's just a lot of A/V you-know-what. It's probably better kept in private.
For the great many plasma owners, these LCD shoot-outs with plasmas are informative about the state of LCD vs plasma. Especially if you know you have a higher end plasma - and enthusiast forums like this tend to be populated by people who wanted to buy the better performers - controlled comparisons like these help the plasma owner in deciding whether to hang on to his current display, or whether there is something better now available in LCD to tempt him to upgrade.
There is no upgrade, unless you want a brighter image (in all senses of brighter... daylight viewing, ABL effects, etc.) or a bigger screen. Isn't that clear by now? Does it take 500 posts of the same nonsense? I mean the VE results speak for themselves.
I don't see how this could be irrelevant, especially in a forum like this one, in which we gather not only to decide on our "next TV" but to also share information about AV technology.
Well, as someone who writes both professionally and casually, I can tell you that making the same point for the 500th time causes it to lose impact. In fact, it causes it to have negative impact. I want to hear D-Nice talk about his obsolete, half-decade-old Kuros about as much as I want to hear my uncle talk about those British speakers he bought back in college... I mean would anyone seriously acquire either Kuro when you can get an LG OLED for $3500? If so, there is probably mental-health help waiting for you.
Originally Posted by imagic
At the shootout, I noticed how obvious the dimming zones are on larger LCD UHDTVs. Based on my experience with the FALD (full-array local dimming) on Sharp's Elite and Vizio's P-series LCDs, I thought the current crop of UHDTVs would offer some tangible improvement over the flashlighting artifacts that plague edgelit designs. Instead, I witnessed obvious halo artifacts and pulsating shadows, even on the most expensive UHDTVs at the shootout. To my eyes, it was apparent that the FALD UHDTVs do not have backlit arrays with enough dimming zones to produce a plasma- or OLED-like image, one that is free of flashlighting and halo artifacts.
It's important to mention -- and I didn't see it in the thread though it might be here -- that there was no P-series Vizio at the shootout. Drawing conclusions about it based on a CES viewing (or other early viewing) when its launch is still yet to come -- albeit soon -- seems premature. It may be no improvement whatsoever in the state of the art. But we'll know in due time. Let's wait and see, yes?