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I've seen all the pics of the 9800 uniformity problems. The 9300 I have is free of any of that. I'm not seeing any DSE either, as I do have it slightly on my Elite. I guess my true test will come after I return the set and return to my Elite. I might have Oled withdrawals
I tried to switch to the Sony 65900b (my favorite 4k LCD) and had bad OLED withdrawals. If not for OLED I,would be happy with the 65900b for years.
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Batman looks Great and only 1080i

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Oh I've done it now, I've joined the ranks of OLED owners, after waiting what seemed like an eternity to upgrade my meh Sharp 60" LED I got in 2011. I decided to stop into BB today and had them see if they had any in stock, they only had one. The salesmen had to "find" it. I was able to talk them down to $3K plus tax showing them some board posts (thanks guys)! I had $100 in RZ certs so walked out $3090 poorer but felt pretty good. I was on the fence whether to get a lower priced 9800 or just go for the 9300 I feel good about my decision.


Now frustratingly I cannot get my security bolts off my mounted Sharp and have to wait till tomorrow to set this beast up! Damnnnnnnnnnn!
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I saw the 55 inch set at Dublin, CA on Friday.

This is comfortably the first set I've seen that blows away my Kuro (151) calibrated by D-Nice.

I can't wait for the 77inch version. It's so good I might even just go with 65inch barring any big issues.

Pretty happy I held off on the LCD temptation just for a bigger size.

Congrats to LG for actually getting this out. Truly amazing.
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I was able to checkout the EC9300 today and was very pleased with the picture it produces! Turning up the cell light setting to one notch below max makes the picture really pop! I used my Leo Bodnar input lag tester and was able to measure the input lag. In the ISF (Night/Day?) mode the input lag was 104ms. In game mode with all settings disabled it was 45.9ms (42.3ms top, 45.9ms middle, 49.7ms bottom). Definitely an improvement across the board from the EA9800 (aside for perhaps more aggressive ABL, and some variance/flicker with that). Had the input lag matched my XBR8 I would have purchased the set.
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I was able to checkout the EC9300 today and was very pleased with the picture it produces! Turning up the cell light setting to one notch below max makes the picture really pop! I used my Leo Bodnar input lag tester and was able to measure the input lag. In the ISF (Night/Day?) mode the input lag was 104ms. In game mode with all settings disabled it was 45.9ms (42.3ms top, 45.9ms middle, 49.7ms bottom). Definitely an improvement across the board from the EA9800 (aside for perhaps more aggressive ABL, and some variance/flicker with that). Had the input lag matched my XBR8 I would have purchased the set.
Thanks for the test.

Did you disable these settings? - aren't auto disabled using Game Mode:

1- Software Update setting set to Off, this setting is inside Customer Support Menu - big input lag reduction
2- Daylight Saving Off - have to test this
3- Magic Remote's Alignment setting Off - big input lag reduction
4- Clear Voice set to 0 then deactivate it - have to test this
5- Turn off tv speakers - big input lag reduction
6- Game Mode with PC Input Label - big input lag reduction

Also a bonus tip:

ISF Modes, Cinema Mode, etc have xvYCC Enabled and grayed out. I think this xvYCC setting set to Enabled increases input lag greatly. I found a way to have this setting selectable so you can set it to Off - no longer grayed out:

1- Buy a Mastered in 4K BluRay movie and look in the back of the box for xvYCC support. I bought GhostBusters Mastered in 4K BluRay movie.
2- I used a PlayStation3 videogame console. You have to enable Deep Color in the PS3's settings.
3- Turn On Real Cinema in your LG tv.
4- Reproduce the movie in your PS3, once inside the movie, go to your Advanced Menu in your LG tv and you will notice the xvYCC setting is no longer grayed out. Turn it off.
5- Gamers that love the best PQ found in ISF, Cinema Modes, etc Might be able to enjoy these high PQ video modes with reduced input lag thanks to xvYCC disabled.
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Hmmm, hope these aren't gonna be panel roulette.


Panel lottery also happens with LCD and PLASMA.
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Thanks for the test.

Did you disable these settings? - aren't auto disabled using Game Mode:

1- Software Update setting set to Off, this setting is inside Customer Support Menu - big input lag reduction
2- Daylight Saving Off - have to test this
3- Magic Remote's Alignment setting Off - big input lag reduction
4- Clear Voice set to 0 then deactivate it - have to test this
5- Turn off tv speakers - big input lag reduction
6- Game Mode with PC Input Label - big input lag reduction
Do you even have any proof of your claimed suggestions? For as many "big input lag reduction" settings it would imply you could get negative input lag!
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46ms lag is just as much as u cant feel the lag on a console game ist pushing slight to high it but most will be fine with that number with console gaming. Pc gamers will notice the high lag tho.
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Letter bar ir ahh will be the same baby sitting again thats bad news
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Yes, looks like IR of letterboxes from watching 2.35:1 content - how many widescreen movies have you watched on the set? What % widescreen viewing as opposed to full-screen viewing?
I've watched a few full screen and a few letterbox movies, but I've noticed the middle vertical lines the first time I've turned the TV on before still watching anything, it was noticeable on one of the setup screens I believe in purple color. So will this IR go away ?

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My letterbar ir went away by turning the tv off.
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Batman looks Great and only 1080i

Nice photo. Vegas, can you share a photo of how it looks from the side and the back? I'm curious how they changed the design there.
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I tried to switch to the Sony 65900b (my favorite 4k LCD) and had bad OLED withdrawals. If not for OLED I,would be happy with the 65900b for years.
The 4k 65" Oled would given u best of two worlds
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Added vent to the back, front seems much cooler

Ah there we go
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I have some bad dithering problems with my 9800. Everytime i watch compressed video material, i see that bad dithering. Did you notice that on the 9800 or on 9300 too?

what about motion resolution? does it have 120 or even 240 hz?
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Looks that the 9300 is slight thicker than the 9800 but nobody been confirming this
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I've watched a few full screen and a few letterbox movies, but I've noticed the middle vertical lines the first time I've turned the TV on before still watching anything, it was noticeable on one of the setup screens I believe in purple color. So will this IR go away ?

Thanks
Looking at your pictures I see quite a few vertical and horizontal lines, going into the middle of the screen whereas any letterbox IR should only affect the margins.

And given that you saw these as soon as you turned it on, and it shows on normal viewing and not just on greyscales, it looks to me as if you've got a faulty TV, I'm afraid.

I'd return it for another one, if I were you.

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Thanks for your review. Can you be more specific as to exactly what kind of scenes triggered the ABL? Was it something like a hockey game, vast expanses of snow in an outdoor scene, a commerical or something else?

I didn't notice this at the shootout, with the exception of Power Point slides, but as I've previously posted, it may just be that the scenes used at the shootout didn't have a high enough APL to trigger the ABL.
I'll try and find the exact scene and make a video of it. It was episode 9 or 10 of Hell On Wheels season 1. It's a sky scene if I recall, an Indian is looking up into a bright white light from above (I think). Give me some time though, we just brought home an infant yesterday so my hands are busy!

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I have some bad dithering problems with my 9800. Everytime i watch compressed video material, i see that bad dithering. Did you notice that on the 9800 or on 9300 too?

what about motion resolution? does it have 120 or even 240 hz?


Yes you can see it on compressed video on the 9300 as well. I thought the set was advertised to be 999hz on Amazon, not sure if that's true or not. I can say I'm extremely happy with the motion handling on this set using the "clear" setting. Every other TV I've owned I've had to disable the setting completely as it makes the weird soap opera effect.

Last night watching hell on wheels mr furgeson (common) was in a train car wearing this black tweed jacket:

http://images6.fanpop.com/image/phot...-1600-1200.jpg

It is truly insane the contrast ratio, it looks like the jacket is sparkling when we moves. Never seen that kind of detail on a TV before, I'll try and make a video of it. My girlfriend and I both looked at each other in amazement. These OLEDs are game changers, and the price is too low to pass up. Now I just need a bigger one for our entertainment room as I can't even stand the sight if my 65XBR850A any longer, haha. Three days ago I loved that set and now it's pretty much an embarrassment!
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I'm wondering if TV supports 50Hz, I know not many people are interested in such thing. Here is a simple method to check


(connect tv to laptop via hdmi, right click on desktop, then click screen resolution, then click advanced settings, then graphic card tab or monitor tab, you have to set digital TV instead of laptop display, then drop down menu of screen refresh rates)
if you find 50Hz and 25Hz in the drop down list, TV is 50Hz-capable, otherwise it's not.

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I'm wondering if TV supports 50Hz, I know not many people are interested in such thing. Here is a simple method to check


(connect tv to laptop via hdmi, right click on desktop, then click screen resolution, then click advanced settings, then graphic card tab or monitor tab, you have to set digital TV instead of laptop display, then drop down menu of screen refresh rates)
if you find 50Hz and 25Hz in the drop down list, TV is 50Hz-capable, otherwise it's not.

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Assuming your video card has that refresh supported...
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Do you even have any proof of your claimed suggestions? For as many "big input lag reduction" settings it would imply you could get negative input lag!
Negative input lag? You mean less than 0ms? lol

I don't have a Leo Bodnar tool, but as a gamer I can notice the lowered input lag.

Try my suggestions, since you have the tool, you can get solid proof. For example with everything disabled and using PC input label, the LG LX9500 can go as low as 10ms input lag.
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Assuming your video card has that refresh supported...
there is no video card that doesn't support that.
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It's not always easy. For example, here's an example of having to crock an edid to do 50hz.

http://www.green-hippo.com/support/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Article/View/220/1/setting-50hz

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there is no video card that doesn't support that.
You know every video card there is, huh?
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Christ, this mobile interface is getting flakier by the day....could only get 1 link to paste properly this time and it munged the crap out of my post.
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Batman looks Great and only 1080i

There's supposed to be letterbox bars in that scene. Is the tv malfunctioning?






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It's really tough using this forum now got sure!
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Assuming your video card has that refresh supported...
Maybe, I tried 2 laptops and both show all resolutions, maybe with old video cards it is different

again I appreciate owners for their help, below you find instructions


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(connect tv to laptop via hdmi, right click on desktop, then click screen resolution, then click advanced settings, then graphic card tab or monitor tab, you have to set digital TV instead of laptop display, then drop down menu of screen refresh rates)
if you find 50Hz and 25Hz in the drop down list, TV is 50Hz-capable, otherwise it's not.

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