Originally Posted by sage11x
If Panasonic put out a display tomorrow with an LG Display sourced OLED panel equipped with their own electronics/video processing that featured accurate color, gamma and defeatable noise reduction would anyone still be arguing the merits of this LG panel?
I've argued for years that contrast/black level is the most important aspect impacting picture quality and that's why I'm so excited about the possibility OLED presents. That being said: there is no way I'd trade my 55" VT60 plasma for this 55" 9300 OLED. There are just too many areas where this LG falls down for it to be considered an elite display. I'm not giving LG a pass just because they are the only game in town-- I expect more from them. It''s not like anyone is saying this isn't a good display, CR and hdtvtest are just saying this is far from the best display. Why is everyone in such a hurry to rush to the defense of an obviously flawed product? Especially considering hdtvtest clearly points out that many of these flaws are evident in LG's LCD displays and thus attributable to the brand and not the display type.
But panasonic aren't putting out an OLED display tomorrow. As much as we all wish they were. The sooner OLED gets adopted by the likes of Panasonic and Sony in the consumer field the better. Even if it was, I still think we would be arguing the merits of this OLED panel over every LCD and Plasma... which is what we are doing now.
I don't really see the point in debating it's strengths over a non-existent product. It would obviously be inferior to the perfect, hypothetical panel you describe. Can it that screen cost £500 too? Then the LG would really not be in the picture.
The LG panel right NOW is the best in class in contrast/black level which we both seem to agree is one of the most important aspect of perceptive picture quality. It's SO frustrating it falls in other areas but personally I choose it over anything else in the market right now because in balance I find it the most enjoyable screen to watch films in a dark room - they are my viewing habits and this screen delivers the goods for me. The fact you are happy with the Panasonic you have now. Great.
But are CR really saying it's far
from the best display? It reads like it's very very nearly
the best display to them. 1 point from the best display. Level on points with the 2nd best display. The points are really arbitrary. How people are reading it so negative I don't know. I think Jim even said in this thread he would buy it over the screens above it in their ranking list. I don't really care what score they give it. Even if they said it was the worst display in the world I would still be keeping mine.
I wouldn't say I'm in a rush to defend the displays flaws. I hope I don't come across that way. It's curved for a start! And most user reviews point out many of the flaws that CR and hdtvtest do. First time I saw one in a store I thought it looked terrible. But I'm lucky. My panel doesn't have a blue bias and like many others I could calibrate the display to give me accurate colour. It's not acceptable that some panels are unable to give you accurate colour, if that was the case with mine I would return it in an instant. I hold colour equally as important to contrast and black level.
And yet I'm on a forum lauding it's merits because in real world use, not looking at graphs or crops of static images it's the best looking large display I've laid eyes on. It's very annoying their are negatives, especially things that could easily be fixed like DNR, but it is not as heavy handed us some would be led to believe. All in all, nothing that would make me
return it, but room for improvement definitely.
My reference point of a good display is a professional Sony OLED monitor... essentially as close as you get to 'perfect' (albeit relatively small) picture.
I just hope OLED doesn't disappear like Plasma before it gets a real chance to gain traction due to the bungled LG processing. If anyone is on the fence after reading otherwise positive reviews I implore them to give it a try.
If you've made up your mind already. Ignore me.