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You can update the firmware but it has to be able to run on the slowest, first generation players as well as the latest, that restricts what can be done.
With streaming it's a 2 way process. The server can ascertain what the player is capable of and send an appropriate stream.
The stream itself with its bandwidth is the constraint. That itself is more restrictive than the decoding ability delta between slowest to fastest players.
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A small update for folks who are following availability of the 65ef9500: I pre-ordered on Amazon a few days ago and they sent me an email yesterday saying that they expect to deliver it from October 2nd to 10th.

Also, their detail page for the set says "Usually ships within 3-6 weeks".
I'm almost will to wait to hear what's coming out at CES2016 for LG if it's coming out in Oct...
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Hint Hint... It would be nice if someone like Value Electronics or Cleveland Plasma can do a AVS group buy on the flat LG....
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Or the EG9200...
EG series is curved, that's not for me

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Getting back on topic. I am really excited for this 65EF9500. I found an article of a closed door demo of its HDR ability and the results are said to be spectacular. While it is only capable of 800 nit peak in a 10% window, it still offers one of the best HDR experience because of the deep blacks. Making everything pop with 3D like quality. Currently only SMPTE 2048 compatible. Don't know if their any plans for a DolbyVision version. Hopefully, they work out those yield and black banding problems and I can pick this up for $2500 in a few years.

Sytech, is there any more detail on this? Care to divulge your source? Thanks.


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EG9100 (new 1080P curved set) is up now on LG's website. They took down the flatties again though.
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Meanwhile in Finland:

One regional store has had EFs in their site for few months now with the shipping dates as Sept 2nd and 3rd (65" and 55")
The shipping dates have been now updated to Sept. 17th for 65" and 19th for 55".

(the new curved, yet less expensive model 55EG920V is expected to come out next week on the 9th. Not the flat we're waiting for, but can't say that I'm not tempted)
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Getting back on topic. I am really excited for this 65EF9500. I found an article of a closed door demo of its HDR ability and the results are said to be spectacular. While it is only capable of 800 nit peak in a 10% window, it still offers one of the best HDR experience because of the deep blacks. Making everything pop with 3D like quality. Currently only SMPTE 2048 compatible. Don't know if their any plans for a DolbyVision version.


I'd be cautious about the reading in a 10% window being representative of what the display does at various APLs. As we know with plasma tech, you can get a small window to be very bright but when you try that with a full pattern it drops substantially.
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I'd be cautious about the reading in a 10% window being representative of what the display does at various APLs. As we know with plasma tech, you can get a small window to be very bright but when you try that with a full pattern it drops substantially.
HDR is really only about getting small windows of the screen to be ultra bright. I doubt anybody wants to watch a screen which has half of the screen lit at 1000 nits.
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If there is a group buy, I'm in. PM me if anyone hears anything or wants to start one.
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I'm also interested in a group buy.
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I'm down for a group buy too - 65" (but only if under $6k )
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I'd be interested as well. Loop me in if anyone gets one started.
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I'd be interested in a group buy as well for the 65" model!
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I'm interested in the 55" model.
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Yeah, I remember reading about the EF9500 around CES and they were invited behind closed door for a confidential HDR demo.

I will try to find it.

Looks like OLED HDR and DolbyVision on the Vizio R will fight it out for HDR king.

http://flatpanelshd.com/focus.php?su...&id=1421919922

What LG wanted to demonstrate in particular was how good a 4K HDR picture can look on an OLED TV, stating that “OLED is ideal for HDR”. We were not allowed to take photos during the tech room session, so what you see here are photos from the booth area. However, we can say that we were pretty blown away by the HDR demonstrations on LG’s OLED TVs. HDR takes the amazing picture quality of an OLED TV to the next level.

Some of the Dolby Vision LCD TVs we saw at CES can go into much higher brightness peaks and most the highlights are so bright that you cannot discern details with the naked eye. However, the LCD TVs also tend to eliminate details around the bright spots – details that are supposed to be there.

With an LCD TV you need full-array local dimming (FALD) zones to do HDR, but as you probably know there are only a few hundred zones. So when the LCD TV is reproducing a very bright spot, for example the sun, it needs to fully activate the zone behind this part of the picture, which means that it will often overexpose the area around the bright spot. LG’s OLED TVs do not, and we noticed how the OLED TVs can reproduce bright spots and still maintain a perfect balance in the rest of the image. Why? Because every single pixel in an OLED panel can go from perfect, zero black to 800 nits (current peak brightness of the new 4K OLED TVs). This corresponds to having a local dimming zone behind every single of the 8 million pixels in an LCD panel. Impossible.

We also saw some HDR demos running on LCD TVs without full-array local dimming systems. It was not very pretty. Do not expect to enjoy HDR content on those kinds of TVs even if it is advertised in the specifications.


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Quick question; just talked with the guy at best buy about when the ef9500 would be in store and yet not a definite answer. So my question is are the 65EG9600 and the 65EF9500 going to be EXACTLY the same spec wise; or are there going to be subtle differences. Only reason I am asking is because the price on the curved dropped about 3k; and the guy was telling me that OLED was intended for the "curve." Is he just blowing smoke or what... I'm not sure what to think anymore, have been waiting for this flat panel but now I'm swaying hard!
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@ bigtg yep.. he is smoke'n something go flat
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Quick question; just talked with the guy at best buy about when the ef9500 would be in store and yet not a definite answer. So my question is are the 65EG9600 and the 65EF9500 going to be EXACTLY the same spec wise; or are there going to be subtle differences. Only reason I am asking is because the price on the curved dropped about 3k; and the guy was telling me that OLED was intended for the "curve." Is he just blowing smoke or what... I'm not sure what to think anymore, have been waiting for this flat panel but now I'm swaying hard!
The EG9600 will have HDR via streaming, not sure if they will implement the HDR with external sources. The EF9500 will have both Streaming and HDMI. "UHD Bluray".

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The EG9600 will have HDR via streaming, not sure if they will implement the HDR with external sources. The EF9500 will have both Streaming and HDMI. "UHD Bluray".



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I believe the 9600 can also plat Uhd via hdmi but not HDR..

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I believe the 9600 can also plat Uhd via hdmi but not HDR..

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Yes it will be able to play UHD Bluray, what i said was HDR capable via HDMI.
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The EG9600 will have HDR via streaming, not sure if they will implement the HDR with external sources. The EF9500 will have both Streaming and HDMI. "UHD Bluray".



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Well thanks for the overwhelming YES answers. Can anyone confirm the EF9500 having HDMI 2.0a? I heard that 2.0 and 2.0a was a big difference? Thanks!
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How many are in... I counted 5... 65" Here...
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Well thanks for the overwhelming YES answers. Can anyone confirm the EF9500 having HDMI 2.0a? I heard that 2.0 and 2.0a was a big difference? Thanks!
Yes it has been confirmed.

http://hdguru.com/lg-adds-flat-scree...ries-with-hdr/

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How many are in... I counted 5... 65" Here...
I'm in. 65" here.
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Yes it has been confirmed.

hdguru.com/lg-adds-flat-screen-4k-oled-tv-series-with-hdr/
Thank you for all the help!
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Amazon is now showing that you can buy the 65 EF9500 and says shipped in 3-6 weeks. Additionally, Value Electronics shows on Amazon as a seller and states: Due in stock September 14. I may be interested in an AVS group buy depending on the price. I am hoping they will drop in price for the Holidays and I can save a couple of thousand and buy around Thanksgiving.
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