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While waiting for 65EF950V to be out i suddenly saw an incredible price decrease in my country so i just bought my 65EG960V online which i will be able to receive on monday earliest due to my vacation. In the end they saw no one could purchase with this prices around my country and i just bought the TV for 4K USD. I hope everyone finds a good deal like this.
4,000 USD? What country?

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Apparently the mounts are in shorter supply than the dang TV's. My entire order from BB (several TV's including the OLED and a couple of sonos playbars) was nearly delayed because of that one mount. BB worked hard and called several magnolia stores and their design center with no luck. I guess they have some assisted logistics number they can call when they really need something because I just barely got the mount in time for my order to be delivered.
That's been the case for a while now.

When Best Buy began to put the 65EG9600s out for display, many said they had had the TV in back for "months" (one showed me the paperwork showing it had been sitting in back for almost two months) but they were all waiting for the LG wall mounts before they could put them out (most stores don't have room to display a TV on a stand.)
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We will have to wait for another technology to compare to OLED. Plasma and any LED just do not cut it as far as trying to compare it.......
LED certainly doesn't but aside from the blacks and contrast, I'd say my 64F8500 plasma looks as good as the OLEDs I've seen to date.

The downside of course being the heat and power consumption of plasma as compared to OLED; it doesn't help my air conditioning bill to have the plasma panel an average of 98.5ºF, nor does it help my electric bill to have it draw 665w in operation.
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Sounds like HDR content will be available soon, within weeks according to cnet


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in a separate announcement, LG also promised an upgrade soon: "Amazon HDR streaming will be available on this year's LG OLED 4K ULTRA HD TVs in the coming weeks."
http://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-beat...ver-hdr-video/
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Sounds like HDR content will be available soon, within weeks according to cnet




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@ the shootout LG said HDR update is coming later this summer so most likely sometime in JULY..
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@ the shootout LG said HDR update is coming later this summer so most likely sometime in JULY..
That is quicker than I expected. Excited to see it.

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That is quicker than I expected. Excited to see it.
They all need to sell sets as HDR is being rolled out adoption rate is very fast for HDR the movie industry loves it. They are excited to show films how they originally intended for them to be viewed.
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4,000 USD? What country?
Turkey. Now it is back to normal price today. I hope there are other lucky guys like me around here.
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Turkey. Now it is back to normal price today. I hope there are other lucky guys like me around here.
Wow, nice job on the price!
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http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-tilti...OwBy_6_QquZXcA


Link to the mount...if you search the SKU it does not come up, but this link works.
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LED certainly doesn't but aside from the blacks and contrast, I'd say my 64F8500 plasma looks as good as the OLEDs I've seen to date. The downside of course being the heat and power consumption of plasma as compared to OLED; it doesn't help my air conditioning bill to have the plasma panel an average of 98.5ºF, nor does it help my electric bill to have it draw 665w in operation.
Its a good thing OLED came out, all plasma guys would have to switch to LED.......
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Its a good thing OLED came out, all plasma guys would have to switch to LED.......
Well the Sony XBR-75X940C seems to have ruled the roost at the shootout.
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Otw150

Does anyone knows LG OTW150 purchasable in Germany or any other Europe countries?
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Well the Sony XBR-75X940C seems to have ruled the roost at the shootout.
Let's see what the actual results show, but it's possible. Whod'a thunk?
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I guess it all depends on Calibration times. Only people at the show know how long each set got. The LG needs more time to be perfected. The 65EG9600 that Chad B calibrated ( review piece ) took 8 hours, now he feels he can do one in 5 hours accurately now being more familiar with the set. Chad says the UN65JS9500 and the Sony XBR-75X940C took about 6 hours for the first calibrations ( review pieces ), any further unit would take 4 hours he is saying now being more familiar with the set.

With that said who new the OLED would win, I did LOL. Will be a long time before OLED is kicked off the top...
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This write up of the shootout says the dark edges were definitely noticeable in the lower brightness grey test patterns. However, in the last couple of paragraphs they seem to give the nod to the OLED. It doesn't really say much about the Sony. It also says that they were at the first session, and didn't get to see the TV's with 4K content.



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That is correct, at 50/59.94/60Hz at 3840x2160 and 4096x2160, you must enable Ultra Deep Color to get 4:2:2 or 4:4:4. Without it, you're limited to 4:2:0 YCbCr at 60 Hz.

With Ultra Deep Color enabled on HDMI1 or HDMI2, but the input labeled anything but PC, you get 4:2:2. With it labeled PC you get 4:4:4 and with Ultra Deep Color disabled (or HDMI3) you get 4:2:0.
lg writes supports 4:2:2 but what ? 10/12 bit
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HDR When will be
HDR what kind would it be

is LG has solved 30 fps / 24 fps


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I want to thank Chris at Cleveland Plasma for helping me through the purchase process for my LG 55EG9600. I had the tv on the mount and turned on in less than 48 hours after calling to order...professional service and a great price.
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I call bb regarding the mount and they asked for the sku. The guy that helped me said I had to come in to order, a little odd, I did go in and they had it in stock at the warehouse. He was a little confuse about the policy on this. Needless to say I have mine in route.
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I want to thank Chris at Cleveland Plasma for helping me through the purchase process for my LG 55EG9600. I had the tv on the mount and turned on in less than 48 hours after calling to order...professional service and a great price.
I purchased my 65EG9600 from Chris and it was an A+ experience, I will most likely make all my future AV purchases through Cleveland Plasma aka from here forward, Cleveland AV. Hands down best price and best service and customer care available ANYWHERE.

Quick weekend review:

I only have about 10 hours on the panel but here goes. Received the shipment on Friday and quickly unboxed and powered-on before releasing the driver, TV booted and drivers released.

I prepped my location and installed the bottom stand, it installs with 8 provided screws, I installed it the hard way, the recommended method is to lay the TV flat and install the base then remove the box and lift up the TV, which I recommend for any future owners as my method was more difficult by placing the TV upright on the stand then having my wife assist me in holding the panel in place while I screwed it together. The panel is impossibly thin and very flexible.

I pulled up Peter's (sillysally) very many hours created base starting point, in this thread on page 56. I was able to configure ISF1 Expert with these settings on HDMI2, I disabled the onboard speakers and all TV audio goes out via ARC to my Marantz AV7702. His settings are essentially right on the money, I went with Gamma BT.1886 and Blacklevel Low, which are two hotly contested settings amongst owners, and it looks absolutely fantastic. Additional details is that I configured for HDMI mode and PC mode for HDMI2. I settled on HDMI mode due to the fact that in PC mode you cannot run Just Scan, Real Cinema, or TrueMotion. Otherwise all other picture settings take just fine. To start I have Super Resolution set to High, Real Cinema enabled for any 24p content, and all TrueMotion settings off.

So far I've done some initial testing with a couple of high-contrast films, starting with Tron: Legacy. Infinite dark blacks and contrast are definitely not a gimmick! (I'm coming from a Samsung LED-Engine DLP from 2007 so there has been a lot of ground to make up for regardless.) I noticed hints of darkened edges but only slight and ever so briefly in moving picture. No issues with IR or judder, no banding issues detected. I also tried the infamous scene from Interstellar where Coop wakes up, no judder, very slight <3 seconds of what would be considered darkened edges and if there was banding it was nearly unnoticeable and again for a fraction of a moment. I did notice a strange artifact on both films playing from PS4 BluRay when the aspect ratio changes to 2.35:1 for some scenes and that is a strange line on the top and bottom of the picture, near the black bars where it appears the image doubles for about an 1/8" area, almost looks like it's under a piece of glass, I'll have to run this to ground a little more as I still had a Video Conversion setting enabled on my Marantz though I had any IP upscaling disabled, I've since disabled all Video Conversion and have to recheck. No other issue at 1.78:1. Next I fired up Destiny for PS4 to see how well the panel handles video games, from a thread in AVForums from the UK a user, yappa, did a full rundown of Input Lag and determined that you get the lowest lag on either PC or HDMI mode with Super Resolution set to High, it absolutely blew me away, rich colors, deep black, and fast response with no blurring. Topped off the first night with a viewing of Avatar in 3D to check how the TV handles it and it was jaw-dropping. Perfect cinema 3D with passive glasses, huzzah! For 3D I copied the same settings but doubled OLED Light to 96 to make up for the halved output received in 3D. Has to be seen to be believed and it will be fun to enjoy some 3D BluRays I've had building in my collection. I also upgraded my Netflix to 4K and checked out half an episode of Daredevil, looks incredible so far. My STB is ATT Uverse and the picture is alright, and expected. Has that softness of upconverted 1080i that I was expecting but it's totally enjoyable and an improvement over my old panel. I will probably switch back to DirecTV (Satellite) after my year though.

I will be running some test patterns through the week to see how well some of the different patterns look on the screen and check for uniformity and report in, but for now, for normal content this is hands down the best picture I've ever seen and worth the investment.

I forgot to check the build date but I'll try and get a camera behind there soon and confirm.
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To start I have Super Resolution set to High, Real Cinema enabled for any 24p content, and all TrueMotion settings off.
That sounds like the picture must be horrible oversharpened.
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I purchased my 65EG9600 from Chris and it was an A+ experience, I will most likely make all my future AV purchases through Cleveland Plasma aka from here forward, Cleveland AV. Hands down best price and best service and customer care available ANYWHERE.
Congrats!!!

Your impressions sound about right.

Have fun adjusting all the different settings.

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That sounds like the picture must be horrible oversharpened.
It's not too much, but going on your post I tested the decreasing lines circular pattern, and you're right it's adding a bit, set super resolution to off and it's zero artifacts, thanks!
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Thanks Peter, that's what I'm up to this afternoon, using the Disney WOW calibration disk which is actually quite deep.

Here's what I've come up with for my panel, a couple changes from Peter's posting on page 56. I noticed I was able to get a little more range out of Black by setting Black Level to High and reducing brightness to 41 with Gamma at BT.1886.

Of course I don't have all the meters so take it with a grain of salt, just something for people to try while awaiting Calibration.

OLED Settings:

Mode ISF Expert1
Aspect Ratio: Just Scan
OLED 48
Contrast 80
Brightness 41 / Black Level High
H Sharpness 10
V Sharpness 9
Color 53
Tint 0

Expert Control:
Dynamic Contrast Off
Super Resolution Off
Edge Enhancer Off
Color Filter Off
Gamma BT.1886

White Balance:
Color Temperature Warm2

Method:
2 Points

Pattern Outer

Point: High
Red -11
Green 0
Blue 10

Point: Low
Red -3
Green 0
Blue -2

Method:
20 Points

IRE 100
Red -3
Green 0
Blue 0

IRE 20
Red 1
Green 0
Blue -2

Picture Options:
Noise Reduction Off
MPEG Noise Reduction Off
Black Level High
Real Cinema On
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That sounds like the picture must be horrible oversharpened.
not necessary. I actually have it at medium with noticeable clarity and no ill effect. I am not sure what exactly what is this super resolution, because there is also a regular sharpness setting (H and V) which will cause horrible over-sharpening if turned too high. Is this super resolution related to 4K?
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I purchased my 65EG9600 from Chris and it was an A+ experience, I will most likely make all my future AV purchases through Cleveland Plasma aka from here forward, Cleveland AV. Hands down best price and best service and customer care available ANYWHERE.

Quick weekend review:

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I prepped my location and installed the bottom stand, it installs with 8 provided screws, I installed it the hard way, the recommended method is to lay the TV flat and install the base then remove the box and lift up the TV, which I recommend for any future owners as my method was more difficult by placing the TV upright on the stand then having my wife assist me in holding the panel in place while I screwed it together. The panel is impossibly thin and very flexible.

I pulled up Peter's (sillysally) very many hours created base starting point, in this thread on page 56. I was able to configure ISF1 Expert with these settings on HDMI2, I disabled the onboard speakers and all TV audio goes out via ARC to my Marantz AV7702. His settings are essentially right on the money, I went with Gamma BT.1886 and Blacklevel Low, which are two hotly contested settings amongst owners, and it looks absolutely fantastic. Additional details is that I configured for HDMI mode and PC mode for HDMI2. I settled on HDMI mode due to the fact that in PC mode you cannot run Just Scan, Real Cinema, or TrueMotion. Otherwise all other picture settings take just fine. To start I have Super Resolution set to High, Real Cinema enabled for any 24p content, and all TrueMotion settings off.

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I will be running some test patterns through the week to see how well some of the different patterns look on the screen and check for uniformity and report in, but for now, for normal content this is hands down the best picture I've ever seen and worth the investment.

I forgot to check the build date but I'll try and get a camera behind there soon and confirm.
Yes I'd love to know the build date. Please!
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Yes, it's related to the upconversion feature inherent to the panel, from LG videos it does sharpen the picture independent of the H and V.
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