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Thanks Dook! Did you stream Avatar, or watch from 3D bluray? Did you watch Avatar on your "old" panel by chance? Have you tried out 3D on the new one?
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Enabling ultra deep color fixed it, and I can select 4:4:4. However, my X7200W receiver refuses to send a 4k60 signal with deep color through it so I have to do a direct connect. Hmm... Pretty sure this receiver is suppose to handle that?
Did you get the hdmi 2.0a upgrade?
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Thanks Dook! Did you stream Avatar, or watch from 3D bluray? Did you watch Avatar on your "old" panel by chance? Have you tried out 3D on the new one?
Avatar 3D BluRay, old panel, still looked great.

I have not on the new panel yet. Going to be gone for a week here but I'll put some updates in after 9/8.
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Did you get the hdmi 2.0a upgrade?
Yes it's the WA model.
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Don't understand. WA? upgrade?
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Don't understand. WA? upgrade?
The denon 7200w didn't come with hdmi 2.0a ports. Owners could send the unit in and Denon upgraded it to 2.0a for free. The WA model, which was released later, came with the upgraded hdmi 2.0a ports.
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I got it working, the NVIDIA drivers default to RGB mode and for whatever reason it did not like that signal. Direct connection, swap to 4:4:4, connect back through receiver and all is well.

Looks amazing on the desktop now, text is clear. Now just to test how quickly IR becomes a problem. I feel like i'll just deal with any minor burn-in I get, at the cost of being able to enjoy games on this. It absolutely destroys my LG 34UM95 (3440x1440 IPS) Monitor. :|
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Just wait till you get 4kp120 into an OLED, that'll be something.
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Just wait till you get 4kp120 into an OLED, that'll be something.
Ha. Good luck getting 120fps though. I'm debating selling my LG 34UM95 monitor to help fund a second Titan X, just to achieve 60FPS @ max settings in newer games.

I've had the desktop up now for about an hour, put up some solid patterns to test for IR and I see absolutely nothing. So far so good, seems like IR is much harder on this than the 55EC9300.
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Took my Sony FDR AX-100 4K camcorder to bb, hooked it up to 65EG9600 to see what my 4k footage looked like. Played with some picture settings on the tv and on the camera. Outside of the camera's limitations including max 30fps, Bb employees & I were quite impressed.
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Can the EG9600 auto-adjust the OLED Backlight, based on ambient light?


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Just spent an hour playing GTA V at 4K/Max Settings on this. I can't describe how good it looks, and i've gamed plenty on my old 55EC9500.

4K is no comparison, it is jaw dropping, the image seems three dimensional due to the insane contrast ratio + sheer resolution of 4K. It like tricks your brain, hard to explain. I actually almost wish I would of went 55" now because 65" is massive for a monitor, and 55" would of had even more pixel density. Even at 65" though, the need for anti-aliased is pretty much nonexistence. There is somehow more detail than my 27" 1440p, and 34" 3440x1440 monitors sitting next to it which have a much higher PPI.

I never imagined a game could look so good to be honest.

OLED is king. OLED is love. OLED is life.
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I personally haven't had issues with 3d and have enjoyed the 3 features I've viewed so far which were the hobbit, Dredd, and pacific rim. I thought it was excellent. Equally as good as on the ec9300
Thanks for the reply Wjboshart, that makes me feel better. My set is due to be here by 5 PM today and I am on pins and needles.

Wjboshart, how are you watching your 3D? Do you stream, or watch 3D blu ray? Would you mind sharing the settings that you use for 3D?
I just watch 3d blu Ray. Think I've streamed one 3d movie from Netflix. I honestly just use the standard 3d setting that it automatically switches to. I'm not sure how to calibrate a 3d image shy of copying grayscale and cms settings from my isf 1 that I calibrated.
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Can the EG9600 auto-adjust the OLED Backlight, based on ambient light?


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No, there is no auto setting for OLED light.
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No, there is no auto setting for OLED light.
Something interesting from the in-progress review at http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...&id=1440607411

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HDR seems to work on our model. We only have limited material, but it detects HDR and takes over the "OLED light" setting completely.
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Just spent an hour playing GTA V at 4K/Max Settings on this. I can't describe how good it looks, and i've gamed plenty on my old 55EC9500.

4K is no comparison, it is jaw dropping, the image seems three dimensional due to the insane contrast ratio + sheer resolution of 4K. It like tricks your brain, hard to explain. I actually almost wish I would of went 55" now because 65" is massive for a monitor, and 55" would of had even more pixel density. Even at 65" though, the need for anti-aliased is pretty much nonexistence. There is somehow more detail than my 27" 1440p, and 34" 3440x1440 monitors sitting next to it which have a much higher PPI.

I never imagined a game could look so good to be honest.

OLED is king. OLED is love. OLED is life.

I just started playing this game, wow sounds awesome, I assume you got a 4k rig?

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Got some night shots. Slight banding and right side darkening at 5%, but it's about 1/20th of the problem it used to be, if that. Banding has not shown up on any content save for one total fade to black after the credits of House of Cards.
No offense, but that vertical banding still looks pretty bad and I have a hard time seeing how that's not going to show up on darker horror/scifi. Have you tried watching something like Godzilla (2014) or Game of Thrones?
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Im not impressed by the "fix" i seen pictures of the 960 un fixed with better screen quality... Bumptious uk 960 looks way better than DookSD fixed panel one. But again panel aging might clear more of those bands away...
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Don't forget vak, Bumtious' is a 55" (I think) and Dooks is 65" - it only the 65" that have this problem big time.
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Official Owners Thread 2015 LG 55EG9600 / 65EG9600 4k

55" can be just as bad. I have seen enough examples, including my own one.
Will have to see more replaced sets to confirm whether or not there's a general improvement.
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First time poster. Thank you for your help over the years, all of you. I hope to slowly return the favor in kind.

I'm expecting delivery Fri. I have two questions for you guys.

Streaming HDR content (once it's prevalent) will be of equal quality to hard wired content (2.0a), right? If so the lack of a physical connection for HDR doesn't bother me that much.

And two, to streamline the potential repair and/or possible panel replacement process, I'd like to expedite diagnosis of how affected my unit is by the vignetting/dark edge and banding issues. What would you guys reco for a quick diagnosis of that? Is a look at 5 and 10% grey scale at factory settings a sufficient test? Or should a second step be trying various typical inputs to see if whatever issues my panel has are within the realm of acceptable to me?

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First time poster. Thank you for your help over the years, all of you. I hope to slowly return the favor in kind.

I'm expecting delivery Fri. I have two questions for you guys.

Streaming HDR content (once it's prevalent) will be of equal quality to hard wired content (2.0a), right? If so the lack of a physical connection for HDR doesn't bother me that much.

And two, to streamline the potential repair and/or possible panel replacement process, I'd like to expedite diagnosis of how affected my unit is by the vignetting/dark edge and banding issues. What would you guys reco for a quick diagnosis of that? Is a look at 5 and 10% grey scale at factory settings a sufficient test? Or should a second step be trying various typical inputs to see if whatever issues my panel has are within the realm of acceptable to me?

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Streaming quality will be equivalent provided you have the proper bandwidth allocation. Just like now for 4k streaming they recommend at least 25mb download speeds. You will probably need more for HDR.

To streamline repair if you have an affected panel, the easiest thing to do is to use the 5 and 10% grayscale slide.
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I would be happy with dooks replacement, but my black edges are exceptionally bad. On my 5% slide I can't even see the 5 posted in the lower left corner about 4-5" in from the edge
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I disagree, I would say streaming is never as good as real media.
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Streaming quality will be equivalent provided you have the proper bandwidth allocation. Just like now for 4k streaming they recommend at least 25mb download speeds. You will probably need more for HDR.
No streaming service currently provides the bandwidth of BD, which is up to 54 Mb/sec, and I suspect a lot of infrastructure would need to be upgraded to provide that bandwidth consistently over the course of a feature film.
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Streaming quality will be equivalent provided you have the proper bandwidth allocation. Just like now for 4k streaming they recommend at least 25mb download speeds. You will probably need more for HDR.
No streaming service currently provides the bandwidth of BD, which is up to 54 Mb/sec, and I suspect a lot of infrastructure would need to be upgraded to provide that bandwidth consistently over the course of a feature film.
Netflix, Amazon, vudu all have uhd material with vudu set to launch HDR this fall
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Don't get me wrong though, disc will always trump streaming because you take out strain from the origin server down all the way through your pipe line, but for just someone that might dab in HDR, streaming will probably suffice if it is potentially just as much of an adage as 3d
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Somebody help me out here. I have my replacement panel. Now on subtle gradients, I'm getting a shimmering like effect like the pixels can't decide what colors to be. And on solid colors, it almost looks the pixels are flickering. I swear video now have way more color banding than they used to. It feels like I'm getting some kind of signal interference that I didn't have on original panel. This has become way more distracting than the dark edges ever were. Even a simple black to white gradient looks horrendous unless I'm doing 444 deep color with my video card.

Is it possible something went wrong during the install. They actually had two extra screws when they finished. This TV does not seem the same to me. I feel like I'm going crazy.
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Somebody help me out here. I have my replacement panel. Now on subtle gradients, I'm getting a shimmering like effect like the pixels can't decide what colors to be. And on solid colors, it almost looks the pixels are flickering. I swear video now have way more color banding than they used to. It feels like I'm getting some kind of signal interference that I didn't have on original panel. This has become way more distracting than the dark edges ever were. Even a simple black to white gradient looks horrendous unless I'm doing 444 deep color with my video card.

Is it possible something went wrong during the install. They actually had two extra screws when they finished. This TV does not seem the same to me. I feel like I'm going crazy.
It almost sounds like an issue they had with the cms from the ec9300, that when you adjust the saturation for certain colors the pixels would start freaking out...

Have you reset the TV back to factory settings and or unplugged the TV completely and then plugging back in?

If none of that is the case, For the loops we're all going through with these replacements, I would contact your vip rep and let them know the panel isn't behaving correctly. I'm personally still in limbo as my rep said they would be sending me a brand new tv since our connector pins weren't lining up correctly with the new panel, but I have yet to receive any email confirmation of this.
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No streaming service currently provides the bandwidth of BD, which is up to 54 Mb/sec, and I suspect a lot of infrastructure would need to be upgraded to provide that bandwidth consistently over the course of a feature film.
However keep in mind that the compression scheme in effect can greatly impact bandwidth requirements. H265 requires much less of a bitrate to achieve the same PQ as H264.
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