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It has improved quite a bit since the first day the set was powered on. My PlayStation Vita screen had issues when I first got it including uniformity issues that stuck out like a sore thumb in some games. That same Vita today has a very uniform screen. My current phone, a Google Nexus 6p has had a red tinting issue almost vanish since owning the phone for a few months.
"It has improved quite a bit since the first day the set was powered on"

Has it improved or are you just getting used to it? I thought mine improved, but then I would have my wife come and look at the TV and she always would see the same color distortion.
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I came close to buying this screen a few months back
This Sunday only I can get it for the lowest price yet, approx. $1,700 (never been cheaper here in Denmark)
But I'm worried about things like vertical bands and vignetting
How much of an issue is this really?
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I came close to buying this screen a few months back
This Sunday only I can get it for the lowest price yet, approx. $1,700 (never been cheaper here in Denmark)
But I'm worried about things like vertical bands and vignetting
How much of an issue is this really?
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I had been watching the reviews for quite some time- pulled the trigger a few weeks ago, ended up with a 509 build (first thing I checked as it was delivered)... I've not had one issue. Obviously you'll hear more negative (meaning there is an issue) than positive- and not that that isn't valuable information. For a while, I was thinking - what am I missing here... there's got to be some flaw I can find...

I couldn't. Maybe I got lucky- maybe I'm more of the norm, I don't know. I feel for those who have these banding issues- and I think they are completely in their right to ask for replacement. Seems to be somewhat of a craps shoot- but all I can say is I'm immensely enjoying this TV. I watched some hockey last night and the colors were perfect... almost annoyingly so as when the puck was in the two offensive zones and the camera angles switched- I could see the protective netting in detail- it was so clear it stood out. I later watched the movie Insurgent- which has many bright and dark scenes, and was actually noticing how great both looked, and how much detail I could still see.

as they say... YMMV.... but I'd buy another in a heartbeat knowing that even if I had to exchange it because of some banding issue, I would still keep the same model and keep crossing my fingers should it be the case.
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It has improved quite a bit since the first day the set was powered on. My PlayStation Vita screen had issues when I first got it including uniformity issues that stuck out like a sore thumb in some games. That same Vita today has a very uniform screen. My current phone, a Google Nexus 6p has had a red tinting issue almost vanish since owning the phone for a few months.
I'm confused. I've heard it goes away and I've also heard it stays the same.

Is this truly subjective , or a gamble within the screen lottery whether or not it will improve?

I returned my 9100cfor left third being pink and a faint but noticeable vertical line on the left that was noticeable on blues greys and whites most prominently.

I think I'll get a 4K set next go round. Maybe a 9500/9600 if the price is right or a 2016 model perhaps

I already miss OLED
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I am so torn on ordering the 9100. I have a 60" LG Plasma right now that's about 4 years old. I have seen OLED in some stores and the picture is just amazing and the 9100 is so affordable right now. I had want a 65" 4K TV for my next TV but the price is so hard to pass on the 9100 to get into OLED I just keep thinking its a mistake buying a 1080P TV with more 4K coming everyday.
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I am so torn on ordering the 9100. I have a 60" LG Plasma right now that's about 4 years old. I have seen OLED in some stores and the picture is just amazing and the 9100 is so affordable right now. I had want a 65" 4K TV for my next TV but the price is so hard to pass on the 9100 to get into OLED I just keep thinking its a mistake buying a 1080P TV with more 4K coming everyday.
We were in the same boat... Ultimately decided at the 55" size and OLED- what "more" would we see with 4K? If we didn't go for the LG, it was going to be a 65" Sony - wasn't gonna drop the coin for the 65" OLED LG. At the time, the 9600 was $4k - now it's $3k, and I still don't know if I'd spend the extra money for 4K at this size.

We were coming from a 46" LCD- so the difference is much greater than your situation- but overall with a side by side- the OLED picture won out over the 4K sets for us. To each their own- but I finally decided if I went the 65" 4K- I'd always wonder if I should've grabbed this 9100 when I could... So far- I'm not caring that I didn't buy a 4K Tv, and don't see that happening anytime soon.
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I am so torn on ordering the 9100. I have a 60" LG Plasma right now that's about 4 years old. I have seen OLED in some stores and the picture is just amazing and the 9100 is so affordable right now. I had want a 65" 4K TV for my next TV but the price is so hard to pass on the 9100 to get into OLED I just keep thinking its a mistake buying a 1080P TV with more 4K coming everyday.

I'm in a very similar boat. I have a 60" Pioneer plasma and have a 9100 arriving soon (won it in a sweepstakes and it just shipped). I don't think I'm going to keep the 9100, though. The benefits don't seem to outweigh the drawbacks.

What I would gain with the 9100:
- better blacks
- 3D

What I would lose with the 9100:
- 5 inches of screen size
- worse motion handling
- more screen door effect
- curved screen (the distorted reflections really give me a headache)
- less screen uniformity

I think I'm going to try to sell it and hold out for a 65" 4K OLED. This is what I would gain if I wait:
- 5 more inches
- 4K
- HDR
- improved 3D

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I'm in a very similar boat. I have a 60" Pioneer plasma and have a 9100 arriving soon (won it in a sweepstakes and it just shipped). I don't think I'm going to keep the 9100, though. The benefits don't seem to outweigh the drawbacks.

What I would gain with the 9100:
- better blacks
- 3D

What I would lose with the 9100:
- 5 inches of screen size
- worse motion handling
- more screen door effect
- curved screen (the distorted reflections really give me a headache)
- less screen uniformity

I think I'm going to try to sell it and hold out for a 65" 4K OLED. This is what I would gain if I wait:
- 4K
- HDR
- improved 3D
Yeah, I have to say I agree with you. it would be nice to get a better picture and the Plasma I have right now is not the best but its better then most the the LED's I have come across. I just love the punchy colors and contracts you get with the OLEDs where my plasma has more of a cool but very uniform picture. I have to admit at $1,400 the 9100 is hard to pass on if it was even $100 less I probably would have gone for it.
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I just got the 9100 (601 build), and coming from a 2 yr old Samsung 51F8500 plasma, this OLED blows it out of the water. I've been a plasma loyalist since 2006, and refused to buy LED to replace my plasma. This LG tv is just a pleasure to watch. I don't feel like I lost anything with this new tv. There's no heat coming off the 9100....it's cooler than a cucumber no matter how many hrs you have it on. My plasma gave off a lot of heat, and also had burn in on its panel. I also gained 4 inches from my previous tv. Blacks/detail on the LG are way better than my F8500. I like LG's WebOS much better than Samsung's Smarthub interface also. The curved display doesn't bother me one bit...I can barely tell it's curved, since I sit dead center of the screen. Plasma tech is dead now....I couldn't even replace my broken plasma panel after it failed on me with just 2 years of use. I'm so glad there was no replacement panels available for my F8500. I think this 9100 is the best 1080p display you can buy on the market right now...it's a steal at $1400-1500. I'm not going to upgrade to 4K for a while, so this 9100 will fill the gap to 4K for me with no regrets.
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I`ve heard some people mention that this set does not handle playback from USB very well. I`m thinking they put a less than capable SoC on it in order to make it cheaper.

I`d be gratefull if anyone who uses the tv to play 1080p content via usb stick or hdd could give me some input on this. Are you experiencing any problems with it?
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Do you guys set brightness at one level and then leave it there for all movies?
My experience is that I have to change it between movies.

For example:
Max brightess 48 (anything above 48 brightness gives grey blacks and massive banding):

Inglourious Basterds
The Grey
The old Star Wars movies

Max brightness 50 (same as above, anything above 50 will give grey vertical bars in scenes with black in it)
The good the bad ugly
The Matrix
Once upon a time in the west
Oculus

Max brightness 52
Inception

I run everything at default with ISF preset 1. Black level auto/low. Gamma 2.2.
Is something wrong with my TV? I don't understand why brightness 54-55 looks so grey and full of bands on my set, when most users and calibrators seem to use it
Can brightness vary between units? So that for example 48 on my set means 52 on other's?

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QQ - why are my Tru motion and Real Cinema options greyed out while watching anything other than blu ray?
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QQ - why are my Tru motion and Real Cinema options greyed out while watching anything other than blu ray?
Real Cinema is only enabled (and turned off or on) when watching a 24hz HDMI source or built-in streaming application. It can't pull 24hz out of 1080i and 1080p sources like some other TVs.

TruMotion should always be available to turn on and off on any setting. Maybe try resetting the picture settings and if that doesn't work reset all settings on the tv.

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Real Cinema is only enabled (and turned off or on) when watching a 24hz HDMI source or built-in streaming application. It can't pull 24hz out of 1080i and 1080p sources like some other TVs.
My Real Cinema setting can be turned on/off with regular cable tv input (Verizon FIOS). It's not greyed out...but then again, it may not be doing anything with my cable tv input, even though I can access the setting.
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I returned a 9100 to Best Buy last week cause left third was pink and a faint vertical line that wasn't just "backlight looking" banding on certain greyscale. Couldn't exchange cause it was open box (though unopened somehow) and had a coupon and they had no inventory

With adorama eBay offering it again for 1400 usd, wondering if I should bite the bullet.

Seems like the B 2016 model isn't coming until July. I kinda want 3D too, it's a nice perk with OLED and id have to get top tier if I wanted it and flat.

Flat is preference but didn't mind the curve for the PQ.

WWYD?
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I returned a 9100 to Best Buy last week cause left third was pink and a faint vertical line that wasn't just "backlight looking" banding on certain greyscale. Couldn't exchange cause it was open box (though unopened somehow) and had a coupon and they had no inventory

....

WWYD?
Maybe I just got lucky, but the first 9100 I received (601 build) is a keeper. No banding whatsoever. My F8500 plasma had light pink horizontal banding from day one. I have witness what seems like a "panel crapshoot" with various companies/models of tv's. One Samsung plasma tv owner, I recall, went thru 4 different tv's of the same model, until he finally got a panel that he could tolerate, with little to no DSE or banding.
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So should I try the gamble again?
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So should I try the gamble again?
What tv do you have to fall back on if you don't take the gamble again? I would try at least one more time.
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What tv do you have to fall back on if you don't take the gamble again? I would try at least one more time.
I have a Samsung 55" led that's 120hz in my living room.

And a 47" rear projection Samsung dlp I got for free last year for bedroom, and been re purposing a 32" Samsung 720p 60hz before that from my ole college days
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I have a Samsung 55" led that's 120hz in my living room.

And a 47" rear projection Samsung dlp I got for free last year for bedroom, and been re purposing a 32" Samsung 720p 60hz before that from my ole college days
Well, for me, and probably a bunch of other tv enthusiasts, the difference between an LED and an OLED is the difference between an apple and an orange. You can't compare the two. Different technologies. I never purchased an LED, and I never wanted one after owning plasma displays since 2006.

I think the 9100 is worth purchasing a 2nd time...if you want a non-4K tv that can be argued to be the best 1080p picture on the market today.
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"It has improved quite a bit since the first day the set was powered on"

Has it improved or are you just getting used to it? I thought mine improved, but then I would have my wife come and look at the TV and she always would see the same color distortion.
As far as I can tell, it has slightly reduced. It isn't improving at the speed of light by any means, but on white screens, it isn't as blue on the left side as it was from the get go. I'll be leaving this evening and returning soon which will make me curious to see how I perceive the set when I get back. At home I have a plasma set with perfect uniformity and nice, clean whites. It'll be interesting to go back to that and use it as a metal image point of reference to see if this OLED is truly improving, or some placebo work is going on. I'm very curious to see what I think the next time I see it as I "might" swap televisions with my parents depending on how I feel in regards to the input lag on it for gaming.


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I'm confused. I've heard it goes away and I've also heard it stays the same.

Is this truly subjective , or a gamble within the screen lottery whether or not it will improve?
Wish I had a answer for that one. All I've seen in my experience with OLED devices was uniformity improving and at least on my Google Nexus 6P, its red tint reducing over time. It seems like with LG, if yours is fairly low on screen irregularities, it's best to stick with it.

Though, this recent post over in the 4k thread does seem to show an OLED panel improving over time.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ole...l#post41118530
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I decided against getting the 9100 I just cant go smaller when I was looking just how much real estate I would lose gonna pick up a high end quantum dot or wait until the 65" OLEDS get to the 2,500 $territory
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Maybe I just got lucky, but the first 9100 I received (601 build) is a keeper. No banding whatsoever. My F8500 plasma had light pink horizontal banding from day one. I have witness what seems like a "panel crapshoot" with various companies/models of tv's. One Samsung plasma tv owner, I recall, went thru 4 different tv's of the same model, until he finally got a panel that he could tolerate, with little to no DSE or banding.
Sorry to hear about the F8500, Dan. Mine are going strong and problem free.


To comment on some issues, I personally never heard of there being a DSE problem on the 9100s . My 2 didnt have it and most of the people I talk to on AVS dont have that issue. These are very special televisions at a price of $1400. I certainly loved mine.

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Sorry to hear about the F8500, Dan. Mine are going strong and problem free.


To comment on some issues, I personally never heard of there being a DSE problem on the 9100s . My 2 didnt have it and most of the people I talk to on AVS dont have that issue. These are very special televisions at a price of $1400. I certainly loved mine.
Are you going to order another? On sale again
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Sorry to hear about the F8500, Dan. Mine are going strong and problem free.


To comment on some issues, I personally never heard of there being a DSE problem on the 9100s . My 2 didnt have it and most of the people I talk to on AVS dont have that issue. These are very special televisions at a price of $1400. I certainly loved mine.
Hey, I remember you from the F8500 forum. Glad to hear your 8500's are still going strong. My 8500's panel crapped out (countless vertical, flashing lines on the display). My comment above relating to DSE was about a plasma tv owner in another thread. My 9100 panel is near perfect. The better blacks over my F8500 give images more depth and realism....I can get the 9100 as bright as I want for daytime viewing (just like the 8500), but the 9100 produces a better picture to watch than my 8500 ever did...day or night!
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Are you going to order another? On sale again
Im considering it. I do have a little money to play with, so I may wait for the new models to come out. This could lead to me either getting a new one or an old 65 that goes on sale. I really want a 65. But......If I feel there are no good deals to be had, I have no problem going back to the 9100.

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I'm considering it too..

and I hear ya, 4k 65 would be a 'drop mic' set.

But 1080p 55 OLED was amazing too, shame my best buy one had screen issues
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Anyone hopping on the adorama deal?
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Anyone hopping on the adorama deal?
I am debating it. That price seems too good to pass up. I keep telling myself for less than half of the 55" 4k 9500 model it's worth it. Would I like 4k, sure...but is it worth more than twice the cost of the 9100 on sale....especially considering that 4k content is not huge right now and broadcast tv won't be in 4k for eons....I keep trying to convince myself to pull the trigger...
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