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Here's proof that a nice panel can be found. Thanks for showing these. Frustrating that LG claims my panel is "within spec." Your panel is tremendous
Thanks i apologize for some of my replies to you i was really responding to a poster that I believe was banned some time ago. Your set is definitely defective imo. I would stay on Lg until they make a satisfactory remedy.
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I can only assume we are the luckiest LG customers in the world. To date our 9100 is flawless and stunning in every regard. Build date 601.
Mine is a 510 build but yes we are truly blessed.

I see our friend OIR/Gordon has been banned ahh all is right in the world
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Mine is a 510 build but yes we are truly blessed.

I see our friend OIR/Gordon has been banned ahh all is right in the world
Thanks for posting those pics! It seems like a bit of light pink tint on the top left, though not very noticible. Probably something only the camera picks up. Great set overall
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Thanks for posting those pics! It seems like a bit of light pink tint on the top left, though not very noticible. Probably something only the camera picks up. Great set overall
No prob, yes that tint in the pic is invisible to my eyes.

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I just purchased this set, also have the EG9600. I find that the EG9100 is more prone to image retention. Any static image over a minute can be seen visible at the 5% greyscale slide. Then disappears after a couple of seconds. That doesn't seem to be the case with my other TV. Is this something common with this lower end model, or is it just my unit? Thanks!
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I just purchased this set, also have the EG9600. I find that the EG9100 is more prone to image retention. Any static image over a minute can be seen visible at the 5% greyscale slide. Then disappears after a couple of seconds. That doesn't seem to be the case with my other TV. Is this something common with this lower end model, or is it just my unit? Thanks!
I havent noticed it but then not looking for it either. I learned along time ago with my plasmas looking for ir is a bad idea. Just my 2 cents.

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I had Gregg Loewen calibrate my Pioneer Pro-520HD years ago. He did an excellent job. In fact it is still throwing a great picture to this day.
Do you have the set yet?
If so, how does it compare to the vt60? I have a 2 year old vt60 which i can sell for 1150, and I can obtain a 5 month old eg9100 for 1225 , so the switch would cost me 75 bucks, still not certain whether to do it or not so I am hoping you can help me out, not even asking about flaws like vignetting and such, considering those seem to differ a lot per set, but just the overall experience.

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Do you have the set yet?
If so, how does it compare to the vt60? I have a 2 year old vt60 which i can sell for 1150, and I can obtain a 5 month old eg9100 for 1225 , so the switch would cost me 75 bucks, still not certain whether to do it or not so I am hoping you can help me out, not even asking about flaws like vignetting and such, considering those seem to differ a lot per set, but just the overall experience.

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Hi I am a former Vt60 owner

The only aspects I would give the Vt60 the nod in are slighty better motion and color accuracy.

The 9100 has the distinct edge in contrast ratio, sharpness, brightness including abl and ir resistance.

I also do not miss the heat and fan noise.

Just my 2 cents

Also I would carefully evaluate the 9100 for greyscale uniformity before purchasing. Buydig routinely has new sets on sale for little more than what you would pay for a used set.

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Do you have the set yet?
If so, how does it compare to the vt60? I have a 2 year old vt60 which i can sell for 1150, and I can obtain a 5 month old eg9100 for 1225 , so the switch would cost me 75 bucks, still not certain whether to do it or not so I am hoping you can help me out, not even asking about flaws like vignetting and such, considering those seem to differ a lot per set, but just the overall experience.

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I do have the set but I haven't watched it much yet. I am waiting for the mount to install it.

I will say that I absolutely love my VT60. I have been looking for a used one that was affordable for months. When the $1300 Buydig deal popped up again I decided to give OLED a shot. So far I am extremely impressed with it but I won't be able to say how it compares to the VT60 until I have watched it for a few hundred hours. If I was you I wouldn't sell your VT60 until you know you are happy with the 9100. It is getting very hard to find a nice VT60 at a reasonable price.
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Last year I tried two EC930 both has green and pink tint even in normal content like Fallout 4, so returned both and I gave up.

Last week I saw a good offer for EG910 1500$ build 602 (saw it from the box) with 30 days return back. I picked one and the first thing I checked is tinting, I really surprised that the white looks pure and bright there is no green or pink tint even if tried to look for it. Fallout 4 looks fantastic with uniform gray and no motion blur.

LG indeed changed the manufacture process for new builds. There is no problem with near black now as I noticed they brighten the sides to avoid vignetting. That good thing but some content like the intro image for Rocket League on PS4 I can see the side brighter not like EC930. However, overall brightness was better on EC930 I feel EG910 looks dim. What i did is increasing oled light and contrast both to 67 and changed gamma to low that helped but i keep it in medium for PS4 only.There is very slight banding I can see it only while moving and looking to bright sky on Fallout 4 which I think most TVs has it.

One strange thing I noticed between EC930 and EG910 that the viewing angle for EC930 was better it doesn't get a yellow tint at a wide angle. Now with EG910 I can see the whole screen get yellow or green tint depends on the content and the review from Rtings mentioned the opposite!? Anyway that doesn't bothering me.

In summary, LG is doing something for new builds of 2015 models. From my experience oled now much better especially in colour banding and vignetting. Even with some limitation on EG910 like brightness, HDR and 4K but at this price I think it is the best deal.


What I liked about EG910 over EC930:
- Better 3D
- Faster WebOS
- Better Sound
- No tinting (from straight view) or any other problems
- Better remote
- Better uniformity
- Support HEVC/H.265

What I liked about EC930 over EG910:
- Brighter and Overall PQ slightly better
- Premium build and look
- Analog audio out (EG910 doesn't has one)
- Perfect viewing Angle


Note: This based on my experience.

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I am pretty positive of the answer I am going to receive when asking this but...I bought the new Vizio P55, and for the most part its been a great set but still has its issues when lights are off and its IPS based with FALD. I am bringing this size back due to the IPS panel causing what I believe to be your typical IPS panel problems. But with that said I was either going to stick with the Vizio P series (dropping down to a P50 which is 60hz but only 999$) since its the only FALD option in its price range and not edge lit (yuck), orrrrr I just saw that the EG9100 dropped 200$ at BB. Its a great looking set but spending 1800$ on a 1080p set with everything practically being 4K this and HDR that these days, doesn't seem like a good move, especially when I can get Dolby Vision, HDR with WCG, great blacks, great 4K, decent upscaling of everything else, and very low input lag.

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I am pretty positive of the answer I am going to receive when asking this but...I bought the new Vizio P55, and for the most part its been a great set but still has its issues when lights are off and its IPS based with FALD. I am bringing this size back due to the IPS panel causing what I believe to be your typical IPS panel problems. But with that said I was either going to stick with the Vizio P series (dropping down to a P50 which is 60hz but only 999$) since its the only FALD option in its price range and not edge lit (yuck), orrrrr I just saw that the EG9100 dropped 200$ at BB. Its a great looking set but spending 1800$ on a 1080p set with everything practically being 4K this and HDR that these days, doesn't seem like a good move, especially when I can get Dolby Vision, HDR with WCG, great blacks, great 4K, decent upscaling of everything else, and very low input lag.

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Sounds as if you have already made up your mind if those are your priorities you should stick with that. The 9100 can be had found in the $1300 to $1500 range online however.

4k and hdr content are far from mainstream and dolbyvision and hdr10 are still very much a work in progress. I personally am waiting till the standards and technology are refined further.
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Sounds as if you have already made up your mind if those are your priorities you should stick with that. The 9100 can be had found in the $1300 to $1500 range online however.

4k and hdr content are far from mainstream and dolbyvision and hdr10 are still very much a work in progress. I personally am waiting till the standards and technology are refined further.
I would have purchased a EG9100 from Chris in a heartbeat cause at those prices I rather have the OLED. BUT I do not have all cash right now, and am an Elite Plus member at BB so I rather use their 45 day return window. Unless CP can provide a credit, the price I'm looking at is 1800$
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I would have purchased a EG9100 from Chris in a heartbeat cause at those prices I rather have the OLED. BUT I do not have all cash right now, and am an Elite Plus member at BB so I rather use their 45 day return window. Unless CP can provide a credit, the price I'm looking at is 1800$
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Last year I tried two EC930 both has green and pink tint even in normal content like Fallout 4, so returned both and I gave up.

Last week I saw a good offer for EG910 1500$ build 602 (saw it from the box) with 30 days return back. I picked one and the first thing I checked is tinting, I really surprised that the white looks pure and bright there is no green or pink tint even if tried to look for it. Fallout 4 looks fantastic with uniform gray and no motion blur.

LG indeed changed the manufacture process for new builds. There is no problem with near black now as I noticed they brighten the sides to avoid vignetting. That good thing but some content like the intro image for Rocket League on PS4 I can see the side brighter not like EC930. However, overall brightness was better on EC930 I feel EG910 looks dim. What i did is increasing oled light and contrast both to 67 and changed gamma to low that helped but i keep it in medium for PS4 only.There is very slight banding I can see it only while moving and looking to bright sky on Fallout 4 which I think most TVs has it.

One strange thing I noticed between EC930 and EG910 that the viewing angle for EC930 was better it doesn't get a yellow tint at a wide angle. Now with EG910 I can see the whole screen get yellow or green tint depends on the content and the review from Rtings mentioned the opposite!? Anyway that doesn't bothering me.

In summary, LG is doing something for new builds of 2015 models. From my experience oled now much better especially in colour banding and vignetting. Even with some limitation on EG910 like brightness, HDR and 4K but at this price I think it is the best deal.


What I liked about EG910 over EC930:
- Better 3D
- Faster WebOS
- Better Sound
- No tinting (from straight view) or any other problems
- Better remote
- Better uniformity
- Support HEVC/H.265

What I liked about EC930 over EG910:
- Brighter and Overall PQ slightly better
- Premium build and look
- Analog audio out (EG910 doesn't has one)
- Perfect viewing Angle


Note: This based on my experience.
Is 9300 really better PQ? I have had a 9100 with tint and second hand 9300 that didnt have any, but I think I read on rtings 9300 has yellow off axis and 9100 doesn't.

My 9300 is a SEptember 2015 build so probably one of the last, and no off axis yellow tint. I think its just panel variation, but I was led to believe 9100 and 9300 use the same panel? This is an interesting thought
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Is 9300 really better PQ? I have had a 9100 with tint and second hand 9300 that didnt have any, but I think I read on rtings 9300 has yellow off axis and 9100 doesn't.

My 9300 is a SEptember 2015 build so probably one of the last, and no off axis yellow tint. I think its just panel variation, but I was led to believe 9100 and 9300 use the same panel? This is an interesting thought
I havent noticed any off angle tint but maybe it is source dependant. Not sure on the panel versions either but the core performance seems slightly different. I had a 9300 for a brief time really liked it.

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I havent noticed any off angle tint but maybe it is source dependant. Not sure on the panel versions either but the core performance seems slightly different. I had a 9300 for a brief time really liked it.
Can you elaborate on the core performance piece?
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Can you elaborate on the core performance piece?
Just the fact that the 9300 gets brighter and the lack of tint at wider viewing angles on the 9100 that would lead me to believe different panels but I have no documentation of that.

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For those of you who have updated to the Korean firmware, have you noticed any improvement in motion handling on cable tv sources?
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Well just picked up my 9100. I'm not going to be setting up for a few more days since we're in the middle of moving. I'm kind of scared to look at the screen with all the panel issues I've read about in this thread! I'm also apprehensive it won't meet my expectations coming from Panny plasmas. I'll check back in once I've set up the TV and taken some pictures.
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Well just picked up my 9100. I'm not going to be setting up for a few more days since we're in the middle of moving. I'm kind of scared to look at the screen with all the panel issues I've read about in this thread! I'm also apprehensive it won't meet my expectations coming from Panny plasmas. I'll check back in once I've set up the TV and taken some pictures.
Take what you read here with a grain of salt there was one persistent person that trolled over and over using multiple user names. Most of us are very happy with our sets. I am a long time Panasonic plasma owner and am very pleased. Congrats !

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I would have purchased a EG9100 from Chris in a heartbeat cause at those prices I rather have the OLED. BUT I do not have all cash right now, and am an Elite Plus member at BB so I rather use their 45 day return window. Unless CP can provide a credit, the price I'm looking at is 1800$
I ended purchasing a EG9100 from BestBuy for my bedroom after loving my EG9600. If you have a MicroCenter nearby, you can have BestBuy price-match them to $1,500. No issues with me, though it could be YMMV. I also had several Reward Certificates that lowered the price even more!
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Apart from having experienced some issues with image retention that are not present on the higher end EG9600 series. Has anyone experienced any slow downs with WebOS 2.0? I know the EG9100 only has a dual core processor vs. quad core, though I want to know if any other users have seen the loading bar stating something to the effect of "Loading Smart Menu" when turning on the TV and pressing the home button. Just want to see if it is normal for this model, or something isolated to my unit. The latter problem only occurs after the TV is off for several hours. It usually take 5-10 seconds then all the cards show up. Thanks in advance for any feedback
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Apart from having experienced some issues with image retention that are not present on the higher end EG9600 series. Has anyone experienced any slow downs with WebOS 2.0? I know the EG9100 only has a dual core processor vs. quad core, though I want to know if any other users have seen the loading bar stating something to the effect of "Loading Smart Menu" when turning on the TV and pressing the home button. Just want to see if it is normal for this model, or something isolated to my unit. The latter problem only occurs after the TV is off for several hours. It usually take 5-10 seconds then all the cards show up. Thanks in advance for any feedback
I find the menus to be sluggish in general.

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How bad are the issues with image retention?
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How bad are the issues with image retention?
Again I'm not sure if this is an issue with the EG9100 model or just my unit, but I find that any static image left for 40 seconds or longer appears visible on a white background as well as the greyscale slides. This does not happen with my EG9600. I have left a video with a static image to test out image retention and the higher end model shows almost nothing at all after several hours. Does this affect my daily usage? Honestly no, though it does worry me a bit. Unit builds don't seem to correlate much, though if anyone is wondering I have a 601 build with only a couple hours of use. Will continue to test this out, though anyone with more usage can add their own experience.
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How bad are the issues with image retention?
Its not an issue on my 9100 , have owned the set for 4 months and have yet to see it once. The built in compensation cycle seems to take care of any residual ir. I have not heard one single person complain about IR until now. 40 seconds is insignificant imo, I speak coming for a plasma background where IR was a real concern. There was a good article on ir testing a while back on one of the review sites. Here is the link:

http://televisions.reviewed.com/feat...mage-retention

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Again I'm not sure if this is an issue with the EG9100 model or just my unit, but I find that any static image left for 40 seconds or longer appears visible on a white background as well as the greyscale slides. This does not happen with my EG9600. I have left a video with a static image to test out image retention and the higher end model shows almost nothing at all after several hours. Does this affect my daily usage? Honestly no, though it does worry me a bit. Unit builds don't seem to correlate much, though if anyone is wondering I have a 601 build with only a couple hours of use. Will continue to test this out, though anyone with more usage can add their own experience.
So your set has yet to go thru a compensation cycle ?

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For any newcomers worried about issues people are posting in this thread I was nervous to pull the trigger as well. I don't have any uniformity issues or image retention issues at all with a 510 build. I've only had the set for 1 week and it has better picture quality than any 4k LED/LCD on the market. I wish it could handle motion on poor sources better but it certainly doesn't bother me enough to return to LED/LCD.
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