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Lionanimal 08-27-2015 01:27 PM

Official 2015-2016 LG 55EG9100 OLED "full" 1080p HDTV.
 
This AVS Forum thread is for discussion of the LG 55EG9100 "full" 1080p HDTV set.

It is anticipated that the 2015-2016 set will be available in USA and elsewhere (with similar model #) in approximately late September / early October 2015.

For context, please consider indicating within your following post if you are an owner, or industry professional, or just speculating (without) experience with this particular LG 55EG9100 "full" 1080p HDTV set. Thank you.

Intention is to update these few initial posts as more official information is provided by LG or authorized retailers.

The following hyperlink is to a LG press release dated August 26, 2015:

http://www.lgnewsroom.com/2015/08/lg...rings-in-2015/

The following hyperlink is to the LG-USA web-page of this specific model LG 55EG9100 "full" 1080p OLED HDTV:

http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-55EG9100-oled-tv

Anticipating public release of additional details, characteristics and parameters 4 - 9 September 2015 at trade show in Berlin.

At this time, August 28, 2015 there is a pre-post pre-order placeholder with some technical details on web-page of B&H with an anticipated street price posted.

The following hyperlink is to the referenced online retailers web-page with a summary of technical details and specifications of 2015-2016 LG 55EG9100 "full" 1080p HDTV OLED set:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...urved_fhd.html

NOTE: The 2015-2016 LG 55EG9100 OLED "full" 1080p HDTV is discussed within this thread. The 2015-2016 LG 55EG9100 is the successor to the 2014 LG 55EC9300 OLED "full" 1080p HDTV. At this time, August 28, 2015 the street price increment of the successor is anticipated to be approximately + $ 300 U.S.D. over the current street price of the 2014 LG 55EC9300.

Reference the following trade-article which predicts USA street availability of LG 55EG9100 "full" 1080p HDTV in August 2015.

{post # 43 herein within this thread is from an owner that obtained a unit on September 10, 2015.}.

Lionanimal 08-27-2015 01:28 PM

Post # 2 reserved for hyperlinks and summary of details.

Lionanimal 08-27-2015 01:29 PM

Post # 3 reserved for cross-index to anticipated owner's post's of manual settings / calibration.

Lionanimal 08-27-2015 01:30 PM

Post # 4 reserved for hyperlinks to separately published reviews in online media.

Lionanimal 08-27-2015 01:33 PM

Post # 5 reserved for suggested topic (s) of discussion that will be helpful to lurkers / readers / casual visitors / and potential owners in their consideration of LG 55EG9100 "full" 1080p HDTV set.

a) Consider the discussion of this particular set and other OLED sets with "enhanced" features such as 4K, High Dynamic Range that align with considerably higher street prices to access a fraction of available content. Consider the trade-off's.

The following is a hyperlink to a Forbes business article dated August 27, 2015:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarch...-uhd-oled-tvs/

b) For general orientation about O.L.E.D. technology, the following hyperlink is to John Archer's blog post of November 12, 2014 on Forbes:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarch...vs-affordable/

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TGuire 08-28-2015 10:29 PM

55EG9100 specifications
 
Hi all,
I'm a first time poster on the forums. I had pretty much decided on the 55EC9300 last night, after hearing the 55EG9100 had been semi-announced (nothing on the product section of LG's website yet) because it's on sale, and the 9100 apparently having no "killer" new features.

Today I find the support section of LG's site for the 9100. The product specifications pdf lists 4K UHD file playback capability. I'm thinking down sampling UHD to HD is no BIG deal to me, there's not a whole lot of 4K content out there right now anyway. Any opinions out there?

KOF 08-29-2015 12:46 AM

I want to know if this model has improved in ABL from the EC9300. BTW, this model has been released first in Korea with model number EG9350, but the specs are sketchy at the moment.

JJHLH 08-30-2015 08:26 PM

Hello,

I am also a first time poster interested in this set. Can't wait to see some reviews and how it compares to the 55EC9300. After having been to Best Buy and seeing the picture quality of OLED sets firsthand, I want one! The last tv I purchased was a Sony XBR 46 inch model in 2006. It's been a great set but I'm looking forward to the new technology, which is very impressive.

RDaneel 08-31-2015 03:24 PM

Ok, LG, you've got my attention. I'd rather it was flat than curved, but an "affordable" OLED set is highly interesting to me as an upgrade from my VT55. Here's hoping that the terrible judder issues are gone. If so, I might bite on this.

Anyone have a sense of what street prices you tend to see on a LG set that MSRPs for $2300? I am not familiar with their typical pricing strategy...

Lionanimal 08-31-2015 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RDaneel (Post 36922842)
Ok, LG, you've got my attention. I'd rather it was flat than curved, but an "affordable" OLED set is highly interesting to me as an upgrade from my VT55. Here's hoping that the terrible judder issues are gone. If so, I might bite on this.

With regard to 2014 LG 55EC9300 OLED "full" 1080p HDTV the judder essentially was eliminated on our set by exercising the manual setting of "JUST SCAN".

With regard to street pricing of LG products, it is my understanding that LG factory - USA attempts to hold authorized dealers to exceed a mandatory price floor per certain time period.

cool8man 09-01-2015 01:50 PM

Is this a 3D TV like EC9300? Is it curved or flat?

BigNorm4Life 09-01-2015 01:54 PM

Rtings.com gave LG TV's a bad rating because of the IPS technology... Is there and signifcant changes?

JuliusCaesar 09-01-2015 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cool8man (Post 36948642)
Is this a 3D TV like EC9300? Is it curved or flat?

Yes it will be passive 3D like all other sets from LG. It will be curved.

JoeyBagadonuts 09-01-2015 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigNorm4Life (Post 36948746)
Rtings.com gave LG TV's a bad rating because of the IPS technology... Is there and signifcant changes?

The EG9100 is an OLED TV... completely different technology than LCD IPS panels. IPS panels get worse ratings from ratings.com because they have lower contrast. On the plus side they have greater viewing angles than VA panel LCDs. It's a trade-off. Again, OLED technology has nothing to with LCD technology.

Ratings.com next review to be published (should be any day now) will be the LG EC9300, which should give you some idea of how the 55EG9100 performs. (the EG9100 is this year's replacement for last year's EC9300). They are both curved 1080p sets. This will be rtings.com's first OLED review.

Latinoheat 09-01-2015 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigNorm4Life (Post 36948746)
Rtings.com gave LG TV's a bad rating because of the IPS technology... Is there and signifcant changes?

Yes , what JoeyBagadonuts said, you are confusing LG LCD's with this one. Ips panels have nothing to do with OLED.

BigNorm4Life 09-01-2015 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeyBagadonuts (Post 36951938)
The EG9100 is an OLED TV... completely different technology than LCD IPS panels. IPS panels get worse ratings from ratings.com because they have lower contrast. On the plus side they have greater viewing angles than VA panel LCDs. It's a trade-off. Again, OLED technology has nothing to with LCD technology.

Ratings.com next review to be published (should be any day now) will be the LG EC9300, which should give you some idea of how the 55EG9100 performs. (the EG9100 is this year's replacement for last year's EC9300). They are both curved 1080p sets. This will be rtings.com's first OLED review.

Gonna be interesting

So what is the difference between LED and Organic Light Emitting Diode (OLED)... lol what is this... Whole Foods lol

BigCoolJesus 09-01-2015 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigNorm4Life (Post 36952346)
Gonna be interesting

So what is the difference between LED and Organic Light Emitting Diode (OLED)... lol what is this... Whole Foods lol

One of the biggest differences: black level.

While some LCD LED TV's have near black blacks, OLED's are completely black. As in the same as the screen being off. And they have very promising potential for the future (I.e. the ability to literally print an OLED screen that you could roll up and ship in a poster tube.)

BigNorm4Life 09-01-2015 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCoolJesus (Post 36952538)
One of the biggest differences: black level.

While some LCD LED TV's have near black blacks, OLED's are completely black. As in the same as the screen being off. And they have very promising potential for the future (I.e. the ability to literally print an OLED screen that you could roll up and ship in a poster tube.)

Interresting... I wonder is OLED is the offical new Plasma, Don't Samsung have some expeirance with OLED.. I wonder whats takng them so long

BigCoolJesus 09-01-2015 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigNorm4Life (Post 36952618)
Interresting... I wonder is OLED is the offical new Plasma, Don't Samsung have some expeirance with OLED.. I wonder whats takng them so long

Samsung had an OLED set (the S9C) but has since stopped OLED TV production. As of right now LG is the only manufacturer with models available. Panasonic has a prototype in the works.

JoeyBagadonuts 09-01-2015 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigNorm4Life (Post 36952346)
Gonna be interesting

So what is the difference between LED and Organic Light Emitting Diode (OLED)... lol what is this... Whole Foods lol

Try googling for the full scoop, but in a nutshell:
1) "LED" TVs are actually LCD TVs. The only thing LED about them is the back light. The LED backlight (usually white) shines through the LCD panel and colored filters to produce the image. When manufacturers starting switching the backlight from fluorescent tubes to LEDs, marketing departments took over and started referring to them as "LED" TVs.
2) OLED TVs do not have a backlight. The LEDs themselves "emit" the light that provides the actual picture.

JoeyBagadonuts 09-01-2015 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigNorm4Life (Post 36952618)
Interresting... I wonder is OLED is the offical new Plasma, Don't Samsung have some expeirance with OLED.. I wonder whats takng them so long


OLED has the potential to actually be a combination of the best aspects of LCD combined with the best aspects of plasma. LG is doing a decent job of getting the technology in consumer's hands. The next few years will be crucial to OLEDs continued success. LG will need to prove that its type of OLED (WRGB) panel can be manufactured with reasonable profits (quality and yields) and then ramp production to increase economy of scale.

Samsung uses a different OLED technology (RGB). (That's what they use in hand held devices). In practice they have not been able to scale this technology successfully to TV size sets. They gave up on it after about a half year.

So in a few years, either LG's WRGB OLED will fail to penetrate the market... or it won't. if LG is successful then there are a few possibilities for LGs competitors:

1) Perhaps they will come up with their own flavor of OLED to compete.
2) They may continue to push and evolve LCD technology to compete with OLED
3) They may license LG's technology and incorporate it into their own OLED line.

Lionanimal 09-01-2015 05:21 PM

Rumor control: LG O.L.E.D. technology is fundamentally diffeernt from LED / LCD.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigNorm4Life (Post 36948746)
Rtings.com gave LG TV's a bad rating because of the IPS technology... Is there and signifcant changes?

In the interest of rumor control...

worth repeating suggestion of following hyperlink that is John Archer's blog of November 12, 2014 on Forbes about O.L.E.D. technology:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarch...vs-affordable/

Lionanimal 09-01-2015 05:32 PM

It will be interesting at these price points in October 2015 to compare LG OLED 1080p with Hisense ULED 4k HDR UHDtv's in USA. For context, the following hyperlinks to John Archer's blog on Forbes dated August 28, 2015.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarch...-on-the-cheap/

Sometimes I'm accussed of being an LG fan-boy.

Now I'll be accussed of being a heretic.

Here is a hyperlink to the relevant AVS Forum discussion thread on 65" Hisense ULED 4k HDR UHDtv:

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...s-3-grand.html

relative to this price-point, an online retailer's summary of the competitor's set:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZGIJBXS

and a third monkey wrench thrown at LG's high-priced 4k HDR OLED's... the following hyperlink is to the Hisense USA web-page of the competition.

http://www.hisense-usa.com/tvs/H10B/65/120

Just something to think about before offering up hard-earned cash for a HDtv.

Lionanimal 09-01-2015 05:59 PM

Back on the topic of 2015 LG 55EG9100 1080p OLED HDtv.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lionanimal (Post 36954794)
It will be interesting at these price points in October 2015 to compare LG OLED 1080p with Hisense ULED 4k HDR UHDtv's in USA. .

http://www.hisense-usa.com/tvs/H10B/65/120

Just something to think about before offering up hard-earned cash for a HDtv.

Has anyone seen current and forecasted percentages of various internet programming now and in near-future ? What percentage of online programming is or will be 4k - UHD ?

Any hope for a linear ESPN-4k-UHD channel by year 2017 ?

Although beefy sales of UHD are increasing, how relevant will they be for a few years ?


regardless, I'm personally miffed at LG for high (excessive) markups on OLED UHDtv's and similarly miffed at Sams*ng for high (excessive) markups on quantumn dot SUHDtv's.

Not clear to me if there is any sunk cost justification for such markup other than profit taking. If so, bring it on Hisense.

The relevant AVS Forum thread, among others, for LG OLED HDR 4K UHDtv's is at the following hyperlink: :

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ole...hdtvs-hdr.html

Rant over... for now.

BigNorm4Life 09-01-2015 06:05 PM

http://blogs-images.forbes.com/johna...m111111111.jpg

Well... LG seems to be less complcatated, im interested in the manufacturing process

Are all those panels indiviual screens

Lionanimal 09-01-2015 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCoolJesus (Post 36952754)
Samsung had an OLED set (the S9C) but has since stopped OLED TV production. As of right now LG is the only manufacturer with models available. Panasonic has a prototype in the works.

And the SKYWORTH firm in China is getting into OLED production.

Dianabol5mg 09-04-2015 11:53 PM

This television is now available


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01...A16GZN0B0PF07D


October is going to be pretty fun to watch with prices dropping even more.

fafrd 09-05-2015 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dianabol5mg (Post 37050050)
This television is now available


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01...A16GZN0B0PF07D


October is going to be pretty fun to watch with prices dropping even more.

Why would anyone want spend an additional $300 for one of these over the 55EC9300?

Are there any specific improvements?

Dianabol5mg 09-05-2015 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fafrd (Post 37050394)
Why would anyone want spend an additional $300 for one of these over the 55EC9300?

Are there any specific improvements?



Might be a better panel. It claims to have Ultra Luminance. It can also play 4K files. Heck, I don't know, but it is starting out more than half as cheap as when EC9300 came out. If that is any indication of price drop, we could be seeing these drop to $1599 really quick.

Dianabol5mg 09-05-2015 12:47 AM

Oh and it has something called Perfect Mastering Engine. Could this be another motion enhancer?


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