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The LG 9500 they had one hookup in BB only difference this one flat and the picture Quality is the same 9600.
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Can one of you lucky new owners do an exact measurement of the 65 version of the TV? I'm mostly interested in the width of the TV. I know LG's website lists it as 57 inches with the stand, but I'd like to double check.

I have a cabinet that measure just about 57.2" inches, which I think is tight, but potentially doable. If any of you new owners can send me exact measurements, I'd really appreciate it.

Also, since the HDMI connectors seems to be on the side, I'll have to figure out if I will need additional wiggle room around those connections.

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I haven't measured a flat one, but I can tell you the HDMI (and USB) connectors on the curved one were at least 6 inches in on the left side, so you should be OK (I had a similar concern). FWIW, I had to make some mods to my existing cabinet(s) to create a space 60" wide (gives me an extra inch or so on each side). As long as you have space above and behind the TV (there are vents on the back), I guess you could live with that tight fit.

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Got my 55EF950V today. Set it up this afternoon and have been watching it all evening. To be honest the picture is amazing. I have not done the 5% slide thing - why would I? I have watched TV and Netflix and played on my PS4 - stupendous picture.

I think I could get stressed out about uniformity at 5% grey, but that would achieve nothing except make me look for faults that I am not noticing in normal usage.

I like WebOS 2 too.

Only issue is that I haven't got ARC to work yet - ho hum, there's always tomorrow.
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Got my 55EF950V today. Set it up this afternoon and have been watching it all evening. To be honest the picture is amazing. I have not done the 5% slide thing - why would I? I have watched TV and Netflix and played on my PS4 - stupendous picture.

I think I could get stressed out about uniformity at 5% grey, but that would achieve nothing except make me look for faults that I am not noticing in normal usage.

I like WebOS 2 too.

Only issue is that I haven't got ARC to work yet - ho hum, there's always tomorrow.
Congrats, glad you are enjoying it. Honestly if your happy with the picture, just enjoy it, screw the slides, too many people on here are obsessing over them. If problems can't be seen with actual content, I don't think there's a reason to go looking for problems.
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What's the deal with dead or stuck pixels on these things? How common are they on the OLEDs? At 4K are they just invisible if they even do exist?
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Got my 55EF950V today. Set it up this afternoon and have been watching it all evening. To be honest the picture is amazing. I have not done the 5% slide thing - why would I? I have watched TV and Netflix and played on my PS4 - stupendous picture.

I think I could get stressed out about uniformity at 5% grey, but that would achieve nothing except make me look for faults that I am not noticing in normal usage.

I like WebOS 2 too.

Only issue is that I haven't got ARC to work yet - ho hum, there's always tomorrow.
Enjoy your TV and if you never notice anything that bothers you when watching content, run with it.

But if you do ever notice a scene or an image that looks 'wrong' in some way while watching content, please let us know.

You've seen enough pictures to know the PQ defect we are all most concerned about - 'vignetting' or 'black curtains' that encroach into the image from the edges of the display.

Hopefully you are one of the growing number of EF9500 owners who have avoided that issue...

P.s. It also appears to be more prevelant on 65" WOLEDs than on 55" WOLEDs, so you are probably fine .
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I am curious when Cleveland did or will receive their stock as I am anxiously waiting on his list :laughing:
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I am curious when Cleveland did or will receive their stock as I am anxiously waiting on his list :laughing:
On one hand I am eager, but on the other waiting a bit is OK as hopefully newer manufactured panels will be issue free.
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Did I read your results correctly in that
1) It doesn't matter what picture mode you are in... if you select the "PC" icon as the input type, input lag is pretty much consistent across the board...50-60ms

2) If picture mode is "game, photo or isf", you'll get 50-60 ms input lag no matter what is selected as the input type.

So this begs the question.... does the PC input type / icon defeat all the other image processing settings that are turned on in (for example) cinema, sports, standard, etc? I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around how the picture mode interacts with the input type when it comes to image processing....
PC mode disables all processing. Once the PC mode icon is selected for that appropriate input, all picture settings including game mode are the same input lag. Manually "naming" an input PC or anything else does nothing.
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I am curious when Cleveland did or will receive their stock as I am anxiously waiting on his list :laughing:
On one hand I am eager, but on the other waiting a bit is OK as hopefully newer manufactured panels will be issue free.
Well I've encountered on here one good and one mediocre August build, so I'm hoping the good one was a later August build. I think both were from Best Buy which sounds like their stock has been from the beginning of the month so mostly August builds. If CP is just now getting their Ef9500s I'm hoping either for a late August or early September build. A guy over on the eg thread said while waiting for his replacement panel he was told new panels were tested positively clear of any black edges tested on different grayscale slides as well as actual content. But he ran into a predicament that his local lg repair guy is out due to injury and the 2nd hand repair shop that lg is providing now doesn't want to service the claim. It'd be nice if more people received fixed panels that actually fixed the problem. I've only seen one over there from dooks that is good
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I am curious when Cleveland did or will receive their stock as I am anxiously waiting on his list :laughing:
I've thought about the same thing, but not being part of the initial shipments may be a blessing in disguise. I stopped by Best Buy (Dallas) today and would guess I saw about 25 65EF9500's in stock around town when the guy did an inventory check, so I figured that's where the first shipments have gone around the country.

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I am curious when Cleveland did or will receive their stock as I am anxiously waiting on his list :laughing:
When i ordered mine (sept 11th) Chris expected the TVs to start shipping between the 18th and the 23th. I've not received any notice, so i guess not the 18th

while i'm super looking forward to the TV (been waiting for this for 2 years) i'm kinda stressing about calibrating it. i'm super spoiled with my VT60 and calman. With a PC, calman, client 3. that thing sets itself up.

I tried today on my 1080p LG oled to do a 20 point greyscale and gama calibration... oh, i'll never get those hours back and, in the end, just did a 2 point
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Got my 55EF950V today. Set it up this afternoon and have been watching it all evening. To be honest the picture is amazing. I have not done the 5% slide thing - why would I? I have watched TV and Netflix and played on my PS4 - stupendous picture.

I think I could get stressed out about uniformity at 5% grey, but that would achieve nothing except make me look for faults that I am not noticing in normal usage.

I like WebOS 2 too.

Only issue is that I haven't got ARC to work yet - ho hum, there's always tomorrow.
please shoot an update to the thread when you work out ARC. I'm totally going to need that as my PC will be coming in on a different HDMI port than the AVR (and everything else behind that)

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Well I've encountered on here one good and one mediocre August build, so I'm hoping the good one was a later August build. I think both were from Best Buy which sounds like their stock has been from the beginning of the month so mostly August builds. If CP is just now getting their Ef9500s I'm hoping either for a late August or early September build. A guy over on the eg thread said while waiting for his replacement panel he was told new panels were tested positively clear of any black edges tested on different grayscale slides as well as actual content. But he ran into a predicament that his local lg repair guy is out due to injury and the 2nd hand repair shop that lg is providing now doesn't want to service the claim. It'd be nice if more people received fixed panels that actually fixed the problem. I've only seen one over there from dooks that is good
It appears unlikely that there was any sharp cut-off, and that after that date panels are good and before that date, they are bad.

The flat EF9500 may reduce the Vignetting compared to the curved EG9600 (but too soon to say) but as far as dates, it seems more likely that there remains a probability of getting a good or a bad panel, even with recent build dates, and at best, the probability of getting a bad panel has decreased with the passage of time (and more units manufactured on the line)...

The big mystery to me is the 'LG Techs' claiming that they have tested new panels and that they are perfect, and then once replaced into a defective EG9600, it still exhibits Vignetting - what the heck is that about
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Just exchanged my tv at Best Buy and on the way home now. Wish me luck on the panel lottery lol
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Hopefully you can ring the bell, and yell "winner winner chicken dinner!"
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Yeah - the quality of your new panel will have a major influence on whether our AVS running statistic of 'good-vs-bad' is improving or plummeting
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I am curious when Cleveland did or will receive their stock as I am anxiously waiting on his list :laughing:
When i ordered mine (sept 11th) Chris expected the TVs to start shipping between the 18th and the 23th. I've not received any notice, so i guess not the 18th

while i'm super looking forward to the TV (been waiting for this for 2 years) i'm kinda stressing about calibrating it. i'm super spoiled with my VT60 and calman. With a PC, calman, client 3. that thing sets itself up.

I tried today on my 1080p LG oled to do a 20 point greyscale and gama calibration... oh, i'll never get those hours back and, in the end, just did a 2 point
Do you have the latest calMan with the lg white OLED profile? It took me at least an hour to calibrate my ec when I had it, and it really only worked under certain conditions. Contrast around 98, brightness to 52. Started off going back and forth on the 2pt until they settled in, the. Cranked out the 20pt.

Agreed though, Panasonic isfccc is a godsend! Seeing as though lg has isf settings it'd be nice if they'd have isfccc or ability on their mobile app to adjust pq settings like the old viera app
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Congrats, glad you are enjoying it. Honestly if your happy with the picture, just enjoy it, screw the slides, too many people on here are obsessing over them. If problems can't be seen with actual content, I don't think there's a reason to go looking for problems.
That is the correct attitude

I am trying to not be hyper critical because of my experience with the 9600. Even with it's flaws I thought the 9600 was the best looking set I had ever seen. It would wow me everyday.

Having said that. Because of my experience with the 9600 I am spending too much time looking for flaws in my 9500.

It is early in the relationship...but the 9500 seems to be heads and tails better then my 9600, wowing me even more than the 9600. Maybe that is because of the time I spent with the 9600 turned sour.

Either way, I am happy I made the move from the 9600 to the 9500. It's more of the things I loved about the 9600 and much less of the things that bothered me.

Let's see how I feel in a couple weeks.

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You've seen enough pictures to know the PQ defect we are all most concerned about - 'vignetting' or 'black curtains' that encroach into the image from the edges of the display.

Hopefully you are one of the growing number of EF9500 owners who have avoided that issue...

P.s. It also appears to be more prevelant on 65" WOLEDs than on 55" WOLEDs, so you are probably fine .
Actually, if you look back in this thread you'll find that it may now not be true that 65" sets are any more prone to problems.

I was stunned and really heartened to discover that the two recent 9500 sets displaying such great uniformity - the ones owned by @kswingard and @Dolem1ke - were both the larger 65" versions.

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LOL for sure. This one is slightly better on the patterns, maybe 0.25" to 0.5" thinner vignette, but its far less noticeable in real content. The alley gunfight in dark knight rises still had the vignette but I had to look for it, rather than it drawing my attention. I'll probably keep this one as it is a pain to swap sets and I would be disappointed to get one like my first one.
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Just exchanged my tv at Best Buy and on the way home now. Wish me luck on the panel lottery lol
I'm sure in time, it will keep looking better and better as the panel gets some hours on it, I remember when I bought my Kuro.. I got obsessed with the Blotches issue that the Tv had.. I kept looking for them with content, even though I only saw it with test patterns, my wife thought I was nuts.. kept talking about blotches.. finally I gave up and 8 years later the picture still amazes me, I hope I'll have the same experience once I can afford the oled jump.
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Hi Buzz, when you will receive your EF9500? I'm interesting to hear how it calibrated with internal calibration controls, if they are working properly.

An another model LG OLED user has reported that by calibrating Grayscale, it has impact also to the gradiations of other colors at low-mid levels, he posted some pictures using some Color Amplitude Color Reproduction Patterns here: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-di...l#post37388762

I'm curious about your testing, propably LG's controls have a limit or a 'safe working range' of the values you can tweak without introducing new problems that can be invisible when you measure only a few Grayscale/Saturation/ColorChecker patches and not do the required visual verification after each calibration step to ensure that there no problems with banding/clipping/smooth gradations.
I should receive the 55EF9500 from Cleveland Plasma within a week or so.

Seeing as how this is a new model I'll start calibrating per normal technique and will modify as required depending on probable idiosyncrasies.

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What's the deal with dead or stuck pixels on these things? How common are they on the OLEDs? At 4K are they just invisible if they even do exist?
Good question, I have not seen many reports of dead pixels on these new models.

Iif UHD is 4x the resolution of FHD, and your screen is 55", then consider it the same as four 27.5" FHD screens. Would you notice a dead pixel on a 27.5" screen from your normal viewing distance?
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So, I have to ask a question for those that came from the 9600. Do you notice less glare ?

LG's website is horrible at showing comparisons of their models and it shows there is an Anti-Glare coating on the 9500.

Curious if it's a noticeable difference to anyone?

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Does the EF9500 have 5.1 pass-through via optical out, or only on streaming sources?
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Just drove 2 hours to exchange my ec9300 for a 65ef9500. Tested it out in store... No dead pixels i could see. Just from the blue remote the screen already looks way better than the old ec9500. Looks much brighter and punchier. We were all looking at it commenting at how 3d it looked lol.
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I haven't measured a flat one, but I can tell you the HDMI (and USB) connectors on the curved one were at least 6 inches in on the left side, so you should be OK (I had a similar concern). FWIW, I had to make some mods to my existing cabinet(s) to create a space 60" wide (gives me an extra inch or so on each side). As long as you have space above and behind the TV (there are vents on the back), I guess you could live with that tight fit.
That's good to know and definitely helps. I'm hoping one of the new owners on this thread can also send me exact measurement for the width as well.
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For those owners with the 65 inch, how are the purple reflections? My BB had one set in, but not on display.
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