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Does anyone know if the Wi-Fi supports 802.11 ac or is it just n?
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So, I have to ask a question for those that came from the 9600. Do you notice less glare ?

LG's website is horrible at showing comparisons of their models and it shows there is an Anti-Glare coating on the 9500.

Curious if it's a noticeable difference to anyone?
I would like to know as well if the 9500 screen is less glossy than the 9600 or the 9300 which both seemed a bit glossy to me.
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Does anyone know if the Wi-Fi supports 802.11 ac or is it just n?
According to the manual only n, unfortunately.

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I can confirm inhave the black curtain issue on my 65ef9500. About an inch on either side. This is with oled light at max.

Doesnt really go completely black, but you can kind of tell its there in content with low brightness. Noticed it in the intro to bloodline on Netflix. Not really in my face and not as bad as some pics I've seen of the eg series though.

Honestly though the TV is so big its hard to see unless I'm looking for it... And also this is the best pq I've ever seen on a TV period. It's unbelievable.

Completely slaughters my old js9500. Slaughter doesn't even begin to do it justice. This TV is incredible. And the flat is very welcome too.

I'd just encourage anyone that's interested to call up Cleveland plasma and buy immediately. I can't imagine anyone would be disappointed. This TV represents the most I've ever been impressed with a TV since I moved to hd about 10 years ago.
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Very interested on comments or evaluations on the 3D performance?

What's the crosstalk like, how much is it affected by off axis viewing (vertical and horizontal)?
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I can confirm inhave the black curtain issue on my 65ef9500. About an inch on either side. This is with oled light at max.

Doesnt really go completely black, but you can kind of tell its there in content with low brightness. Noticed it in the intro to bloodline on Netflix. Not really in my face and not as bad as some pics I've seen of the eg series though.

Honestly though the TV is so big its hard to see unless I'm looking for it... And also this is the best pq I've ever seen on a TV period. It's unbelievable.

Completely slaughters my old js9500. Slaughter doesn't even begin to do it justice. This TV is incredible. And the flat is very welcome too.

I'd just encourage anyone that's interested to call up Cleveland plasma and buy immediately. I can't imagine anyone would be disappointed. This TV represents the most I've ever been impressed with a TV since I moved to hd about 10 years ago.
Do you mind posting 5% and 10% slides so that we can compare your panel to some of the other first 65EF9500s?

If you are right about losing about 1" per side to Vignetting/curtains, that means about 2% of you screen being lost on either edge, or about 4% of the screen area total. Sounds like you are ready to live with that, and if it is only very rarely (ie: <1% of scenes) noticable on actual content, I can understand why.

This is still a major, major defect of LG WOLED, and the fact that it appears to still be present on about 1-out-of-2 new 65EF9500 panels mean that LG is a long way from understanding and addressing root cause...

I fear that Samsung and Vizio are going to have a field day with this: "with Samsung you get good image quality across the entire screen that you paid for."
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^ *provided you don't ever watch off -center
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Not understanding - what do you mean
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Worth noting on input lag that even though my readings are all over the place, apparently Bodnar says you judge from the lowest reading and getting a range is normal. I got 47ms a couple times from the 9500, so thinking there's an improvement here.
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Not understanding - what do you mean
Lol, sorry, that was supposed to be the fine print to Samsung and Vizio's hypothetical attack in your post, they should also be transparent and make it clear their tech is not so perfect either.

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I can confirm inhave the black curtain issue on my 65ef9500. About an inch on either side. This is with oled light at max.

Doesnt really go completely black, but you can kind of tell its there in content with low brightness. Noticed it in the intro to bloodline on Netflix. Not really in my face and not as bad as some pics I've seen of the eg series though.

Honestly though the TV is so big its hard to see unless I'm looking for it... And also this is the best pq I've ever seen on a TV period. It's unbelievable.

Completely slaughters my old js9500. Slaughter doesn't even begin to do it justice. This TV is incredible. And the flat is very welcome too.

I'd just encourage anyone that's interested to call up Cleveland plasma and buy immediately. I can't imagine anyone would be disappointed. This TV represents the most I've ever been impressed with a TV since I moved to hd about 10 years ago.
How does it look with an OLED light of 60 to 70? Is it more noticeable?
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OK I figured I would post another update since I've received some messages and I'm sure many of you are super eager to hear some more.

Firstly, no I didn't get this from Cleveland plasma. I got it from best buy. However, I am recommending Cleveland plasma because I've spoken to Chris on multiple occasions and he seems like a clean cut no BS guy and you can read the reviews of hisbshop online for yourself. The guy has like zero complaints out of thousands of reviews.

Secondly, I have not looked at the ire slides nor will I - at least for a few days. I will let the panel do its thing and enjoy it watching nfl tomorrow and then I will report back on Monday after its turned off and done its thing.

Third - I have watched about 40 minutes of various 4k demo material and I have not been able to spot the vingetting ONCE. I have been closely looking and its nowhere to be found. I'm thinking the bloodline thing I saw was just part of the content. I've been watching some very low apl demo content and its just not there. Really it's not there.

Four - ABL seems gone to non existent. The thing gets bright and is on another level than the ec9300. If it's there, I can't tell.

FIVE - Gaming looks incredible. Never seen battlefield 4 on ps4 look so good. It POPS. No dull ABL to be seen on bright levels.

Six - I'm watching the VA tech game on ESPN U and it looks like ass. I don't know how indicative this is for 720p content but it looks like ****. Maybe ESPN U gets allocated low bandwidth since its part of the sports package. Well see nfl on fox tomorrow.

Seven - after all of the above its still the best TV I've ever seen and I encourage everyone to just buy and be done with it. It's just that good. Its just that much better than everything I've ever seen. I've never felt more satisfied dropping this much on anything before. There's no way you won't be impressed.
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Worth noting on input lag that even though my readings are all over the place, apparently Bodnar says you judge from the lowest reading and getting a range is normal. I got 47ms a couple times from the 9500, so thinking there's an improvement here.
Not sure. I also got a couple of 40 something readings on the EG9600, just not the one's I listed.

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I've been watching some very low apl demo content and its just not there. Really it's not there.
Only 4K material or also videos in Full HD? I am asking because I am not sure about the dark edges showing up in 4K material.

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Lol, sorry, that was supposed to be the fine print to Samsung and Vizio's hypothetical attack in your post, they should also be transparent and make it clear there tech is not so perfect either.
Got it - thanks.

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OK I figured I would post another update since I've received some messages and I'm sure many of you are super eager to hear some more.

Firstly, no I didn't get this from Cleveland plasma. I got it from best buy. However, I am recommending Cleveland plasma because I've spoken to Chris on multiple occasions and he seems like a clean cut no BS guy and you can read the reviews of hisbshop online for yourself. The guy has like zero complaints out of thousands of reviews.

Secondly, I have not looked at the ire slides nor will I - at least for a few days. I will let the panel do its thing and enjoy it watching nfl tomorrow and then I will report back on Monday after its turned off and done its thing.

Third - I have watched about 40 minutes of various 4k demo material and I have not been able to spot the vingetting ONCE. I have been closely looking and its nowhere to be found. I'm thinking the bloodline thing I saw was just part of the content. I've been watching some very low apl demo content and its just not there. Really it's not there.

Four - ABL seems gone to non existent. The thing gets bright and is on another level than the ec9300. If it's there, I can't tell.

FIVE - Gaming looks incredible. Never seen battlefield 4 on ps4 look so good. It POPS. No dull ABL to be seen on bright levels.

Six - I'm watching the VA tech game on ESPN U and it looks like ass. I don't know how indicative this is for 720p content but it looks like ****. Maybe ESPN U gets allocated low bandwidth since its part of the sports package. Well see nfl on fox tomorrow.

Seven - after all of the above its still the best TV I've ever seen and I encourage everyone to just buy and be done with it. It's just that good. Its just that much better than everything I've ever seen. I've never felt more satisfied dropping this much on anything before. There's no way you won't be impressed.
Thanks for the update! Don't worry about ESPNU. It is a horrible feed for me too. ABC is not much better. However, ESPN, Fox, CBS and NBC are better when it comes to football.
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I found the ABL on the 9300 slightly annoying. Good to hear that it's been improved!

Can anyone comment on the Color vs the 9300? I've found that both 9300 I've owned/seen had wonky looking colors that no amount of tweaking could fix. Hoping the OTB colors are at least acceptable and won't require a calibration like the 9300.

Also, is the Amazon HDR working on this model yet?
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OK, even though I didn't want to, I figured I would post these since that's what you guys want to see.


First one is 100 OLED, second is 50 OLED.


The uniformity is a little off, no doubt because black levels aren't properly set, causing some unevenness - Going to wait until it's dark outside to set them correctly.

Really, can't even notice in content. Also, the camera makes it look worse than it does to the eye.
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Thanks for the update! Don't worry about ESPNU. It is a horrible feed for me too. ABC is not much better. However, ESPN, Fox, CBS and NBC are better when it comes to football.
Just switched to NBC for the notre dame game. Looks a little softer than NBC did on my EC9300, but to be expected switching to a screen that's 10 inches bigger and 4K, and dealing with garbage MPEG 2 comcast. Still looks great though. Will check out some blu rays and vudu tomorrow
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Very interested on comments or evaluations on the 3D performance?

What's the crosstalk like, how much is it affected by off axis viewing (vertical and horizontal)?
I'm super interested in finding this out too. If any new owners have some 3D material and can test, it would be much appreciated!
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I found the ABL on the 9300 slightly annoying. Good to hear that it's been improved!

Can anyone comment on the Color vs the 9300? I've found that both 9300 I've owned/seen had wonky looking colors that no amount of tweaking could fix. Hoping the OTB colors are at least acceptable and won't require a calibration like the 9300.

Also, is the Amazon HDR working on this model yet?

I have not messed with any color settings in advanced calibration, however I will say that based on viewing commercials with loud white backgrounds, 3 things:

1. Like I said, ABL is greatly decreased.
2. Tint is gone compared to EC9300 - This is a consistently solid white across the massive screen.
3. White seems pretty much perfectly white.

As far as any other color settings, it looks very similar to the EC9300 out of the box, those things mentioned above aside.
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I'm super interested in finding this out too. If any new owners have some 3D material and can test, it would be much appreciated!
First thing on the to do list tomorrow morning is watch Pacific Rim 3D

I was very very impressed with that demo on the EC9300, so i'm interested to see it on here.

I will probably pop my contacts out and check out the screen with my glasses on to test the polarized "scan lines" as well.
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First thing on the to do list tomorrow morning is watch Pacific Rim 3D

I was very very impressed with that demo on the EC9300, so i'm interested to see it on here.

I will probably pop my contacts out and check out the screen with my glasses on to test the polarized "scan lines" as well.
Great, can't wait to hear your thoughts on the 3D! I know the 9600 was very sensitive to vertical viewing angles, and moving too far up or down would cause ghosting. Very curious to know if this is any better/the same/worse on the 9500.
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Also, is the Amazon HDR working on this model yet?
I would assume so, I don't have Amazon Prime, but HDR does work out of the box.

I tested the Exodus and Life of Pi HDR demos.

On my old JS9500 I found the Life of Pi HDR demo much more impressive - The Colors popped like crazy and the Exodus demo seemed good, but rather subdued.

On this set, it seems quite the opposite. The Exodus demo looked superb, whereas the Life of Pi demo didn't seem quite as... I don't know, bursting and in your face as it did from my memory on the JS9500. I was certainly seeing more detail in the dark portions of that demo on the OLED compared to the JS9500, which probably had something to do with it.

Nevertheless, I'm pleased especially with the Exodus material - As I feel it better represents what's going to be typical live action 4K HDR content.

I may splurge and get Amazon Prime tomorrow to check out Casanova and the others (my trial period ended after I got rid of the JS9500). We'll see. I'm about to roll out for the night so probably not much more to test out today.

Hope I've been of some help to you all. I know how anxious I was to hear any nugget of info I could on this TV up until the moment I bought it, so I felt obligated to share as much (no matter how insignificant) as I could.
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Great, can't wait to hear your thoughts on the 3D! I know the 9600 was very sensitive to vertical viewing angles, and moving too far up or down would cause ghosting. Very curious to know if this is any better/the same/worse on the 9500.
I can certainly test that out too, although to be honest, I'm not very familiar with 3D content - Pacific Rim is the only one I own, so I may not be as technical with the impressions as you may like. Fortunately I live in a relatively small apartment and sit close to the TV so viewing angle assessment should not be a problem at all.
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I should receive the 55EF9500 from Cleveland Plasma within a week or so.

Seeing as how this is a new model I'll start calibrating per normal technique and will modify as required depending on probable idiosyncrasies.

Very good, I will wait to see how it's color tracking/accuracy using the internal calibration controls and what kind of further improvement you see by adding an eeColor 3D LUT Box also.

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OK, even though I didn't want to, I figured I would post these since that's what you guys want to see.


First one is 100 OLED, second is 50 OLED.


The uniformity is a little off, no doubt because black levels aren't properly set, causing some unevenness - Going to wait until it's dark outside to set them correctly.

Really, can't even notice in content. Also, the camera makes it look worse than it does to the eye.
What is the black level setting at? High or Low?

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OK, even though I didn't want to, I figured I would post these since that's what you guys want to see.


First one is 100 OLED, second is 50 OLED.


The uniformity is a little off, no doubt because black levels aren't properly set, causing some unevenness - Going to wait until it's dark outside to set them correctly.

Really, can't even notice in content. Also, the camera makes it look worse than it does to the eye.
What is the black level setting at? High or Low?
Low, 51 brightness
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Got some pics of my new panel, the vignette is much better, I have to really look for it rather than it being intrusive. It's minor enough that I will stick with this panel.

I saw the js9500 at bb while exchanging my set, it looked great and I would have gotten it if this panel wasn't good.





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