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Just want to personally thank Buzz for posting his calibration/settings. I've been blown out by this set right out of the box, but I used his suggestions after accumulating 200 hours and upgrading to the latest (US) firmware. Watched "Kingsman" after doing it and it looked even better with his settings. I was lucky enough to get a great Best Buy deal on a 510 build of my 65EF9500 without any problems I can see (and I'm not gonna look for them). On another note, I've seen some chatter about how this set doesn't put out enough light (NITS) to do exceptional HDR, but the whites in "The Man in the High Castle" are practically searing my eyeballs. Any one have a similar opinion?

Yes, it's way too bright. I wish I could turn it off, actually.
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Yes, it's way too bright. I wish I could turn it off, actually.
There's been some discussion of an HDR forum here. I'd like to vote for one.
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Oh my God, so much over analyzing with this set. I literally unboxed mine, left it on standard and turn off motion control. Nothing else and I'm super satisfied.
Standard is very far off of reference using out of box settings. It uses C20 color temp by default, so you aren't even getting close to proper 6500k color. Congrats you are satisfied, but a videophile (the target audience for a $5000 TV) would not be.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!
TO YOU, TODDRAIN1 AND JH87
The ugly " oil paint effect" I have on my 65 literally disappeared after trying your suggestions.
now I have a couple of questions if you don't mind.
1- On the 5 IRE what should be the value of Blue ?
2- Using the Wow disc, my contrast comes around 99, is this normal??
3- Using your values on the 20 Pt. shall I leave the 2 points alone??


Again Thank you so much guys !!!
Sadly, I went back to default 20pt because the -16 green tweak caused issues to happen in the higher 5-10% ranges. After turning red/blue back down so there's not a noticeable lack of green in dark scenes, the issue returned. The fix only seems to works if you push red or blue in dark scenes by a very noticeable amount. Sadly the best solution is exchange it because not all sets have this issue.

Leave contrast at 80.

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Robert from LG said he will be doing weekly update calls to customers regarding a fix. Has anyone who has put their name on the list received a call?
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Had a quick question for those who have returned a set from Best Buy. How did the process go? Do you have to return the set and be without a TV or do they pick up your old TV once the replacement comes? Thanks.


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Had a quick question for those who have returned a set from Best Buy. How did the process go? Do you have to return the set and be without a TV or do they pick up your old TV once the replacement comes? Thanks.


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If they delivered your first tv, then they will deliver replacement, and take the other tv with them. Make sure you tell them that the first one was delivered and you want the replacement delivered. If you picked up at store, you will need to talk to store manager to do that for you.
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Awesome thanks wxman for the info. Kind of sucks we have to plan ahead with that. I might try the lottery soon.


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So......l will post back here Jan 14th after all the CES news is digested and I can guarantee you that you will have a second thought on your above statement...
I feel like you should still be able to provide some sort of proof to have made your previous statement. All this does is push off the onus, allowing you to either never show up when your made up prediction is wrong, or show up when your made up prediction is coincidentally right.

Not trying to be a jerk, really, just not sure how else to better phrase it. I don't really care either way, just feels like you're trying to snake your way out of a real answer because we caught you

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Has anyone been able to output 5.1 sound from the tv to the receiver? I've tried both hdmi arc and optical to an Onkyo Tx-nr709 and neither works.
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Had a quick question for those who have returned a set from Best Buy. How did the process go? Do you have to return the set and be without a TV or do they pick up your old TV once the replacement comes? Thanks.


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I bought in store and requested a replacement in store. They did the exchange via home delivery. It took about 5 days.
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Has anyone been able to output 5.1 sound from the tv to the receiver? I've tried both hdmi arc and optical to an Onkyo Tx-nr709 and neither works.
Yes: all the time (from TV Apps). You sure have spun a lot of cycles (and posts) with this problem. Let's try one more time:
1) connect an optical cable (forget ARC)
2) select "optical audio out" from the sound menu
3) go into Netflix (or Amazon) and play something with a known 5.1 track

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So......l will post back here Jan 14th after all the CES news is digested and I can guarantee you that you will have a second thought on your above statement...
We will look forward to it!

For now the price is the going price, kinda hard to speculate as the market is volatile and the price can change at anytime. Sounds like the stock market, need to jump in at sometime or never at all. Sometimes you win sometimes you lose, however you will never know unless you try it.

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As for your "blow these 2015 models out of the water" claim, I agree with a previous poster that it sounds like you're just trying to convince yourself to wait. About the only substantial changes hinted at by LG is increased brightness (for HDR); now that they added HDMI 2.0a / HDCP 2.2 ports (and made it flat), that was "future-proof" enough for me.
Not that I don't agree with your first point, but the second point is incorrect.

In addition to the increase in peak brightness! the 2016 models will increase color gamut from 90% DCI-P3 to 100% DCI-P3 (only relevant for HDR). In addition, it is rumored that the 2016 models will drop 3D . Nothing rumored but some are hoping for Dolby Vision support. And of all of these, the most important aspect will be further improvements in the area of reduced Vignetting and uniformity (both near-white / discoloration as well as near-black / streaking / DSE).
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Robert from LG said he will be doing weekly update calls to customers regarding a fix. Has anyone who has put their name on the list received a call?
Yes. I received a call each week from him for 3 weeks. He didn't have any new information, so I decided to have him go ahead and start the refund process. FedEx picked up my defective set last week, and I had a new one delivered from Amazon. I expect to see a refund check from LG in a couple of weeks.
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Has anyone been able to output 5.1 sound from the tv to the receiver? I've tried both hdmi arc and optical to an Onkyo Tx-nr709 and neither works.
Yeah, I use ARC with my Onkyo TX-NR818 and it works perfectly with DD 5.1.
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Has anyone been able to output 5.1 sound from the tv to the receiver? I've tried both hdmi arc and optical to an Onkyo Tx-nr709 and neither works.
Optical out seems a little hit-or-miss. I think I got it working the other day my making "Sound" changes but didn't have a lot of time to test. I will try again tonight and report back. Don't remember what settings I changed exactly but did quite a bit of testing on all of the choices.

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Optical out works beautifully for me for both 5.1 and two channel TV as well as for 5.1 from streaming apps; Man in the High Castle sounded great (HDR almost needed sunglasses to view.)

I have an older surround processor (Lexicon MC-8) that does not even have HDMI, though I have a box that can send HDMI audio out over optical/coax if needed.
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24fps content will look bad with realcinema off as it will be forced to do 3:2 pulldown to fit 24fps into 60hz refreshrate.
Doesn't this TV have a 120Hz refresh rate?
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Standard is very far off of reference using out of box settings. It uses C20 color temp by default, so you aren't even getting close to proper 6500k color. Congrats you are satisfied, but a videophile (the target audience for a $5000 TV) would not be.



Sadly, I went back to default 20pt because the -16 green tweak caused issues to happen in the higher 5-10% ranges. After turning red/blue back down so there's not a noticeable lack of green in dark scenes, the issue returned. The fix only seems to works if you push red or blue in dark scenes by a very noticeable amount. Sadly the best solution is exchange it because not all sets have this issue.

Leave contrast at 80.
Pity, Because in my set, before doing what you suggested this is what I had....
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it is rumored that the 2016 models will drop 3D
Oh wow, what a shame! I'm glad I got this year's model then. It has the best 3D I've ever seen on a TV, by a wide margin.
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Yeah, I use ARC with my Onkyo TX-NR818 and it works perfectly with DD 5.1.
Can you use ARC to essentially output only audio to an ARC capable receiver, in order to use the native Netflix/Amazon apps, to get the 4k content with audio through the receiver?
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Can you use ARC to essentially output only audio to an ARC capable receiver, in order to use the native Netflix/Amazon apps, to get the 4k content with audio through the receiver?
Yes, but that's not quite accurate. The video is coming from the TV itself, never hitting the receiver. The audio is going from the TV to the receiver. If you have ARC enabled, the receiver will automatically switch to its TV input, which will give you the LG App's audio while you watch it on TV. Unfortunately, once you're done with that content, you have to manually switch the receiver back to your standard TV-watching input (e.g., cable/std, in my case).
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Doesn't this TV have a 120Hz refresh rate?
I actually don't know, although that would be best.

I do wonder how much it actually matters though since the concept of refresh rate isn't really that important for sample and hold OLED display. With LCD's the backlight strobing can definitely introduce flicker if refresh rate is too low, but with sample and hold oled, there isn't really a flickering light source, the pixels just stay on until they are told to change.

I'm not an expert in this area, but the graphs in the Q&A section in rtings.com review of the EC9300 suggest that as long as the pixel refresh lines up cleanly with source content then "refresh rate" is not really relevant.

rtings ec9300 review - http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/ec9300

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Pity, Because in my set, before doing what you suggested this is what I had....
Yeah it's pretty awful.

Whats you build date? 510?

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I actually don't know, although that would be best.

I do wonder how much it actually matters though since the concept of refresh rate isn't really that important for sample and hold OLED display. With LCD's the backlight strobing can definitely introduce flicker if refresh rate is too low, but with sample and hold oled, there isn't really a flickering light source, the pixels just stay on until they are told to change.

I'm not an expert in this area, but the graphs in the Q&A section in rtings.com review of the EC9300 suggest that as long as the pixel refresh lines up cleanly with source content then "refresh rate" is not really relevant.

rtings ec9300 review - http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/ec9300

OLED pixel refresh graph - http://i.rtings.com/images/reviews/e...ight-large.jpg
LCD pixel refresh graph for comparison - http://i.rtings.com/images/reviews/x...ss-0-large.jpg
Both CNET and rtings claim that this set has 120Hz refresh, which means that it should be performing 5:5 pulldown on 24p content. That's the primary benefit that I can think of over 60Hz. 5:5 pulldown should result in a smoother framerate without the need to introduce frame interpolation, which can lead to SOE.
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Both CNET and rtings claim that this set has 120Hz refresh, which means that it should be performing 5:5 pulldown on 24p content. That's the primary benefit that I can think of over 60Hz. 5:5 pulldown should result in a smoother framerate without the need to introduce frame interpolation, which can lead to SOE.
Yes, you're probably right. In that case, the "Real Cinema" option is probably only the deinterlacer then.
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My 3rd replacement coming on the 3rd according to Best Buy. Couldn't step down to a 55" because "they are out of stock everywhere".

If this one doesn't work it'll be a refund and i'll go back to LED until February or so... which is going to suck. :|
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Hi guys getting ready to purchase my LG 65EG9600 but just want to make sure I am buying the best on the market and not going to regret going with the Samsung SUHD model.

Any final pros or cons I should know about? Also is there a way to make sure I've got the latest November build that's fixed all the known issues on the forums? I've been trying to decide for about 6 months and think I want to go with the LG.

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Hi guys getting ready to purchase my LG 65EG9600 but just want to make sure I am buying the best on the market and not going to regret going with the Samsung SUHD model.
I think the first thing you should do is get the model number right (65EF9500)

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I have one a 55 scheduled to scheduled for the 3rd as well hopefully we both get great sets
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