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My brand new 65 EF9500 came in today and it's amazing. Build is 601 and I don't see any of the issues noted within these forums (pink, yellow, etc). Very happy with it. Coming from a 9800 55 inch and although that tv is still great, this really does step it up. 4k is very impressive.

Bought it from Chris at CP (Cleveland Plasma - now or soon to be Cleveland AV) - highly recommended. Great price, great service, fast shipment.
Would you mind posting some pics of 100% white slide and 5% grey slides from this forum? Have not seen 601 build slide pics yet here.
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10k, after an ES8000 with uniformity issues, and then an EF9500 with uniformity issues...maybe stay away from TV's that start with 'E'
Sorry I couldn't help it.
LOL. I actually never personally had a problem with the performance of my ES8000. The dimming gave it pretty good black levels and in real content I never saw any light bleed, banding, or non-uniformity.

Of course, the true blacks the EF9500 gives us produce a far superior overall picture.
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I'm browsing through Amazon video and can't figure out which stuff is in 4K or HDR?

Nvm, I found the UHD content. But how do I know which is HDR?

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I'm browsing through Amazon video and can't figure out which stuff is in 4K or HDR?

Nvm, I found the UHD content. But how do I know which is HDR?
Unfortunately HDR isn't labeled. You know its HDR from the "hdr enabled" popup that happens when you start playing one. A lot of the amazon original series are hdr, mozart in jungle, bosch, etc
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If they are willing to work with you once the tech comes out to check the problem - for example, if they only offer you a choice of a refund - would you mind asking if it's possible to wait for a refund until the new models are out? Or if they let you wait to get the refund would it at least be until you have a replacement panel in hand?

Maybe someone else who has gone through a refund/replacement with LG knows this already and could answer,

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A dealer exchange up until the end of the warranty is one way they do it, but that probably doesn't work so well if you bought via Amazon or a dealer that doesn't accept returns. I can't see why they wouldn't be able to extend the same offer in the case of a refund.
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Unfortunately HDR isn't labeled. You know its HDR from the "hdr enabled" popup that happens when you start playing one. A lot of the amazon original series are hdr, mozart in jungle, bosch, etc

HDR is in the description window heading (it also listed 5.1 and maybe a summary of the movie) of the applicable 4K video. Not all 4K is HDR. So look in the individual description window of the individual video.

One of the other answers was incorrect as it said the HDR is not indicated until you start the video

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That is incorrect. THe EF9500 is fully compliant and ready to go with HDR over HDMI. No need for an update.

I believe it's the EF9600 that needs the update to HDMI.
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Thanks. I didn't think his comment made sense. If it were true, I would have heard about it by now as I've been in this thread for a couple months now.
It's half correct: the 9600 series will never be able to play HDR material via HDMI (it doesn't have HDMI 2.0a ports). The 9500 series supports HDR via HDMI, but that doesn't mean there will never be an HDR firmware update for other EOTF profiles (depending on how LG implemented the "a" part).

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It's half correct: the 9600 series will never be able to play HDR material via HDMI (it doesn't have HDMI 2.0a ports). The 9500 series supports HDR via HDMI, but that doesn't mean there will never be an HDR firmware update for other EOTF profiles (depending on how LG implemented the "a" part).
I am always referring exclusively to the 9500 in the 9500 thread so for me it is the full 100% correct.
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There is a noticeable difference between 1886 and 2.2 on my tv with FW .75, and least when near black. When I set my brightness with 2.2, 49 gets me 19 and above flashing, with 18 faintly visible in a dark room. Same brightness with 1886, gets me 17 and above flashing, which does not get me perfect blacks. Lowering to 47, bars 20 and above flash. Yet with a brightness of 47, the 4 through 7% slides are slightly brighter with 1886 than with 2.2, and the 1886 shows no hint of any vignetting.
This is what you're eyeballing I assume. You can't fool the meter so I'll be back soon with the firmware/gamma speculation answer.
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? about the OTW150.

Where my displays have gone on my sanus are not quite center on the studs so I have a low pro mount that allows the hangers the display is on to slide back and forth to easily get it right. This one looks like you find two studs, and it is where it is. Whats a solution? 3/4 plywood across 2-3 studs paint matched and then screw the OTW150 to it? I could also build a nice box around my center channel to sit on the low pro stand and put the oled on it.

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haven't tried yet but will let you know!
Just tried out avatar and Jurassic World and both look absolutely great. Def the best 3d I've seen on a home tv w/the 9800 being the recent champ. LG has nailed the 3d on this tv and really happy I went with the 9500 which appears to be the only way to get a flat tv with 3d as the 2016 models make you choose flat no 3d curved w/3d. Not sure why they did that.

My wife saw the difference in a second btw compared to the curved 9800 which I believe is almost as thin if not the same as the ef9500. She was like this tv seems much thinner - I think it's b/c the flat back of this tv REALLY makes the thinness pop whereby the curve seemed bulkier.

Also - watched hockey today and looks great with the whites.
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Just tried out avatar and Jurassic World and both look absolutely great. Def the best 3d I've seen on a home tv w/the 9800 being the recent champ. LG has nailed the 3d on this tv and really happy I went with the 9500 which appears to be the only way to get a flat tv with 3d as the 2016 models make you choose flat no 3d curved w/3d. Not sure why they did that.

My wife saw the difference in a second btw compared to the curved 9800 which I believe is almost as thin if not the same as the ef9500. She was like this tv seems much thinner - I think it's b/c the flat back of this tv REALLY makes the thinness pop whereby the curve seemed bulkier.

Also - watched hockey today and looks great with the whites.
I agree, Jurassic World looks amazing in 3D. Avatar is pretty good (especially for a 3D Blu-ray that was released 5 years ago) but I'm sure they will release a new extended remastered 3D edition around the time when the next movie is released.

Can you tell me if you get any crosstalk/blurriness when you watch 3D if you're sitting really low (at the bottom frame of the TV or lower or standing above the top frame of the TV)? Mine starts to get crosstalk when I sit too low or stand too high. I called LG today and she said that's normal...but according to some people on this thread, they said they can lay on the floor without getting any crosstalk.
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I agree, Jurassic World looks amazing in 3D. Avatar is pretty good (especially for a 3D Blu-ray that was released 5 years ago) but I'm sure they will release a new extended remastered 3D edition around the time when the next movie is released.

Can you tell me if you get any crosstalk/blurriness when you watch 3D if you're sitting really low (at the bottom frame of the TV or lower or standing above the top frame of the TV)? Mine starts to get crosstalk when I sit too low or stand too high. I called LG today and she said that's normal...but according to some people on this thread, they said they can lay on the floor without getting any crosstalk.
I was watching straight on and didn't try to play around with it (other than test how I would actually watch it normally). I can check next time though.
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Is it worth buying a ef9500 at this point? I have a 65" locked in at $4000. I'm just curious if I should just wait out the new 2016 models. Is it worth it?
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Just tried out avatar and Jurassic World and both look absolutely great. Def the best 3d I've seen on a home tv w/the 9800 being the recent champ. LG has nailed the 3d on this tv and really happy I went with the 9500 which appears to be the only way to get a flat tv with 3d as the 2016 models make you choose flat no 3d curved w/3d. Not sure why they did that.
Not quite true, 2 flat panels are coming with 3D in 2016. Yea, they have a higher SRP than the 9500 to start off, but that's market stratification for you (and LG's desire to extract more money out of you).
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Not quite true, 2 flat panels are coming with 3D in 2016. Yea, they have a higher SRP than the 9500 to start off, but that's market stratification for you (and LG's desire to extract more money out of you).
Which two are you talking about - the E and G? If so, those are premium higher end models that will cost your first born. Hardly a realistic choice for someone who doesn't want to pay that much premium just to get what was offered the prior year. I think LG really made a bad decision on that one.
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I was watching straight on and didn't try to play around with it (other than test how I would actually watch it normally). I can check next time though.
Thanks, please do let me know since my exchange window is coming to a close soon.

Here are some 3D movies that I thought were amazing on this TV

The Hobbit trilogy
Man of Steel (Superman)
X-Men: Days of Future Past
The Wolverine
Godzilla
Life of Pi
Transformers: Age of Extinction (some crosstalk here and there but overall great 3D picture)

The only movie I thought was lackluster in 3D was Guardians of the Galaxy.
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I think Im just going to go custom tv riser. That would move the 65" display 1.5 feet closer to our eyes, which is a good thing.

Hard trying to find something for a center that is 36" wide and 10" tall

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I think Im just going to go custom tv riser. That would move the 65" display 1.5 feet closer to our eyes, which is a good thing.

Hard trying to find something for a center that is 36" wide and 10" tall

That's a big center speaker. Wonder if it will support the weight of the TV.
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Thanks, please do let me know since my exchange window is coming to a close soon.

Here are some 3D movies that I thought were amazing on this TV

The Hobbit trilogy
Man of Steel (Superman)
X-Men: Days of Future Past
The Wolverine
Godzilla
Life of Pi
Transformers: Age of Extinction (some crosstalk here and there but overall great 3D picture)

The only movie I thought was lackluster in 3D was Guardians of the Galaxy.
Just tried lying down and also standing up above the TV and it DEF introduces cross talk when compared to seating in my normal spot (or any normal spot that is eye level which displays no crosstalk) so I think it's not just your tv although I question when anyone would watch it that way - if that's important, seems like it will def show crosstalk. I haven't tried to adjust for it as I never plan on watching 3d on the floor!
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Just tried lying down and also standing up above the TV and it DEF introduces cross talk when compared to seating in my normal spot (or any normal spot that is eye level which displays no crosstalk) so I think it's not just your tv although I question when anyone would watch it that way - if that's important, seems like it will def show crosstalk. I haven't tried to adjust for it as I never plan on watching 3d on the floor!
Thank you very much for checking!...It's because I have my TV set on the mantle of the fireplace so my eye level is several inches below the bottom frame of the TV. With this set-up, I have to stand to watch 3D to get no crosstalk. I am planning to buy a TV stand tomorrow and will rearrange my living room accordingly. Once I have everything set up tomorrow, I am most likely going to enjoy and keep this set.
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SYFY's The Expanse is eye candy on this tv. Amazing, even when it's compressed. Perfect blacks. Space scenes are amazing.
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SYFY's The Expanse is eye candy on this tv. Amazing, even when it's compressed. Perfect blacks. Space scenes are amazing.
yeah, last nights episode was pretty good, probably the second best of the season, and it looked amazing.

Unfortunately for me I think I figured out the entire plot of the show but whatever

On the downside, I tried watching beasts of no nation last night and the TV puked all over it. I actually had to stop watching when I saw this:


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yeah, last nights episode was pretty good, probably the second best of the season, and it looked amazing.

Unfortunately for me I think I figured out the entire plot of the show but whatever

On the downside, I tried watching beasts of no nation last night and the TV puked all over it. I actually had to stop watching when I saw this:


That looks horrible! I watched The Colony after The Expanse. It looked terrible too. Amazing how one show can look great, and then The Colony was full of banding, artifacts, etc. Total garbage. Hopefully those shows will look better once they get to Netflix as compression via DirecTV ruins so many of those shows. I'm on the verge of cancelling and just stream or watch OTA. I see that The Expanse is on Hulu. I wonder how the quality is with streaming via HULU.

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Ack, glad I viewed Beasts.. during the day! Orphan Black (Amazon Prime) is more suited for the night.
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Which two are you talking about - the E and G? If so, those are premium higher end models that will cost your first born. Hardly a realistic choice for someone who doesn't want to pay that much premium just to get what was offered the prior year. I think LG really made a bad decision on that one.
The 65EF900 debuted at $6k. The G6 already has a preorder street price of $6750, so it's not a huge stretch to imagine the E6 dipping well below that. We'll just have to see how things shake out over the next 11 months.

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Ack, glad I viewed Beasts.. during the day!

The 65EF900 debuted at $6k. The G6 already has a preorder street price of $6750, so it's not a huge stretch to imagine the E6 dipping well below that. We'll just have to see how things shake out over the next 11 months.
The 9500 initially had a list price of $6999 at BB. Within 10 days it was down to $5999, then dropped to $4999, and then it came with a free tv.
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Yea...I thought I remembered $7k being the announced price, but Amazon was mocking my memory (camelcamelcamel).
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Gamma settings in the EF9500, 2.2, 2.4 BT.1886
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Oled Light 39
Contrast 74
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All enhancements off.
Firmware is .75

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As you can see 2.2 and 2.4 Gamma settings are pretty good, BT.1886 is not very good.

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The Rtings site has updated their review of the EF9500s. They now get a 9.0 rating, saying that the .75 firmware fixed the judder issues.

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/ef9500
I told them about .60 and you can see what their response was as they obviously would not go and download the firmware to do a manual install claiming that they already have the latest but would not list the version number so I told them about .75 again. :P

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