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post #19561 of 24634 Old 05-11-2016, 09:29 PM
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Compared to mine your uniformity looks very good...thats a keeper, have you noticed any improvement in near dark uniformity on yours?
It's been the same uniformity since the beginning.
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It's been the same uniformity since the beginning.
That's good, honestly mine hasn't improved much, which is why I called lg...kinda sucks only being able to watch 50% of movies without jailbars...but holding out to see what happens cause despite that I absolutely love this set.
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Can you share the settings you configured before taking these pics? Also, can you share the youtube links. Thanks.

I got my 65EF9500 today (602 build). I have severe ghosting in 3D. Literally, I can see it every frame. I tried Big Hero 6. Yet to try Avatar.
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Can you share the settings you configured before taking these pics? Also, can you share the youtube links. Thanks.

I got my 65EF9500 today (602 build). I have severe ghosting in 3D. Literally, I can see it every frame. I tried Big Hero 6. Yet to try Avatar.
I got the YouTube info on the forum. Just search oled banding and you will find it.
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Couldn't find it but what are the recommended settings for uhd movies on the Samsung player. Image seems to dark. Thanks for the help.
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Whose cable box? Are you using an AVR or direct connection to TV? Might want to try a different hdmi port if you didn't already.
Ziggo (UPC) cable box, no AVR.
Tried a different HDMI port, not seen the flashes yet but i will test a few days.
I only need 2 HDMI ports so if HDMI 2 is the problem i can use 1 and 3.
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3D is one of the set's top selling points next to its great contrast ratio and black levels. As for movies, Life of Pi, Hugo, Immortals, Dredd, Guardians of the Galaxy, Tron Legacy, and Captain America Winter Soldier are top choices. The Jerusalem documentary is another good one if you want something more reality-based.
I was totally blown away on how amazing that Jerusalem documentary looked. It reminded me of the 4K feeds you see on all the 4K TVs at BB, except that it's in 3D. I've bought a few more 3D documentaries since watching it. Imax Hubble 3D is pretty sweet. I never tire of that Imax countdown trailer before the movie starts.
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Man O Man

I just watched my first ever anything 3D on my 9500 and i am blown away. New really liked 3D, not even in the theater and certainly not on any TV i have owned.


I have one 3D disc and not sure what came over me a month after getting the TV but i threw it in today. Its enchanted kingdom a cool nature flick about Africa i got because it is in Atmos. It has an option for 2D or 3D. Anyways, I'm blown away. I really really do not need an excuse to buy more stuff but I'm gonna have to watch a movie and check it out.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
The Hobbit trilogy
Transformers Age of Extinction
Jurassic World
Avengers
Xmen Days of Future Past
Godzilla

The only 3D blu ray that I don't recommend is Step Up 3D. I bought this movie back in 2010 since it was one of the few non-animated titles that was available at that time and most of us early adopters were starved for 3D movies to play on our sets.
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Did no one suggest Pacific Rim in 3D? Man its a beauty.
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Did no one suggest Pacific Rim in 3D? Man its a beauty.
But the movie sucks

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The company that is apparently going to run a "diagnosis tool" on my set today called and said the TV needs to be on for at least 2 hours prior to them arriving.

This is really making me laugh at how much effort LG is going through to avoid panel replacement. No diagnosis tool is going to tell them how to fix dark edges or severe banding that has developed over time, and it's crazy because this is over a 1 hour drive for them each direction to come here. I don't get why LG insist on paying people to do such meaningless tasks on a rather widespread and known issue.

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Yeah that's been happening. That's why LG will no longer accept pictures and requires a tech to come out and run their own tests. Sucks that people took advantage and tried to get free E6 upgrades or whatever

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Ding, ding, ding.

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Ding, ding, ding.
Yeah I suspect that's what is happening.
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Yep, some bad apples are going to ruin the process for the folks that need it to be easy.

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Is there a suggested break-in period before calibrating? 50 hours?

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Only if you come at it from a completely intellectual stand point. If you come in with your brain turned off, it's pretty enjoyable.
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Chad mentioned a few hundred hours. I imagine to make sure no failure, and a good amount of comp cycles have been ran.

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The company that is apparently going to run a "diagnosis tool" on my set today called and said the TV needs to be on for at least 2 hours prior to them arriving.

This is really making me laugh at how much effort LG is going through to avoid panel replacement. No diagnosis tool is going to tell them how to fix dark edges or severe banding that has developed over time, and it's crazy because this is over a 1 hour drive for them each direction to come here. I don't get why LG insist on paying people to do such meaningless tasks on a rather widespread and known issue.
Just a guess, if they want it on for at least 2 hours maybe they want to then shut it down and let it run a comp cycle. Then just after the cycle run their test. Not sure if that would tilt in in their favor, i have never looked at mine right after a cycle.

Just a thought
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I got the YouTube info on the forum. Just search oled banding and you will find it.
Thanks for the note. Used the Youtube source and others to took the pictures. I have a lot of 3D Crosstalk / Ghosting and lot of banding. I tested it after updating to latest firmware. I can see it in every frame. I am gonna call LG and see if they can help. Not sure whether this is a panel issue or a firmware issue.

Where did you get your TV from?
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The only 3D blu ray that I don't recommend is Step Up 3D. I bought this movie back in 2010 since it was one of the few non-animated titles that was available at that time and most of us early adopters were starved for 3D movies to play on our sets.
A big thumbs up for animated fare; Inside Out and Despicable Me 2 look awesome in 3D.

So does Frozen, but you need the UK Blu-ray for that.
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Got my 602 build delivered. It has been running for more than 10 hours. Did some test with the below setting. Pictures were taken in a dark room.

Oled Light: 60
Contrast: 70
Brightness: 50
H Sharp: 10
V Sharp: 10
Color: 50
Tint: 0
Color Temp: Warm 1
Gamma: 2.2
Color Gamut: Standard
Color Filter: Off
Edge Enhance: Off
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Black LEvel: Low
Tru Motion: Off

Any feedback would be much appreciated
Looks about normal but I'd try Gamma 2.4 and see if you like it better or not.
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Is there a suggested break-in period before calibrating? 50 hours?

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300ish for a final touchup calibration.

You should be fine calibrating it at 50 hours, as long as you can touch it up later. If your hiring a professional, wait for 300.
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300ish for a final touchup calibration.

You should be fine calibrating it at 50 hours, as long as you can touch it up later. If your hiring a professional, wait for 300.
Thanks. I'll be doing it myself.

I'll probably do break-in slide runs at night while I sleep than turn it off each morning so it does a comp cycle each time. Between that and normal use (well above normal use since I have been playing the heck out of Battleborn) should have it up to 50-100 hours and a handful of comp cycles within a week. Than do a touch-up after a month or two.

Believe it or not I love the calibration part. Something relaxing about slowly changing IRE values over and over
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I'm close to returning my 55EF9500 due to black crush. I like every other part of the PQ, but unless there's a known fix I've completely missed, I don't think I prefer the OLED overall to my plasma (Panny 60ST60).

Aside from a professional calibration, is there a fix to black crush? It's almost like old PC graphics where there are visible gradient lines in dark scenes. That's not what I expected when buying an OLED.
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I'm close to returning my 55EF9500 due to black crush. I like every other part of the PQ, but unless there's a known fix I've completely missed, I don't think I prefer the OLED overall to my plasma (Panny 60ST60).

Aside from a professional calibration, is there a fix to black crush? It's almost like old PC graphics where there are visible gradient lines in dark scenes. That's not what I expected when buying an OLED.
I've heard the new 2016 series have some pretty big improvements in the <5% black ranges especially in dark rooms. Maybe consider upgrading? To me the rest of the PQ far exceeds any plasma. If you stop using the plasma for a few weeks, then go back to it, you'll likely realize it's a worse overall picture.

LG OLEDs are infamous for black crush and blocky blacks - even with professional calibration you can't individually tweak each 1%. You end up with 1% being just right, and 2-5% being too bright in most cases. There are some golden models out there and seem to be able to get a good 1-5% sweep but in my experience - only 1 of my 4 EF9500s were able to achieve that. 99% of people would never notice the difference though.

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The large reason to those minecraft looking scenes the quality of the source. I know it is no defense for the display but it isn't there all the time, it's crap sources. I know this because I can watch GoT off HBO, and then download GoT off VOD and VOD looks better with less issues. I can also watch something I recorded off a Dish local like Blacklist, and then watch from my off air antenna and the issues are greatly diminished.

The 9500 does not play well with heavy compression and dark scenes. If what you have is too much, your only OLED option is a new model. Granted according to reviews near black isnt perfect but it is better.

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My 65EF9500 had a lot of banding issues that I was enduring for the past 4 months - had been told by BB and in-store LG reps that the banding would go away after ~500 hours, which it didn't. The banding remained the same (I have posted pictures on this thread last week). After calling LG and lodging a complaint, their tech come over and verified that there was a bad case of banding and a little bit of the yellow piss stain issue too. I had a couple of phone calls with Charles and he approved my exchange to a 65E6P. I should have my new TV soon. The process was hassle free - I must say LG is doing the right thing here. I don't think there are many other companies that do right by their customers. I am looking forward to enjoying the new TV with minimal banding and uniformity issues.

Thanks for all the advice and help.
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Just took delivery of my 65EF9500 from Chris from Cleveland Plasma. Its a 603 build date so hopefully I get a good panel, but I'm not going to look for any issues!!
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Just a guess, if they want it on for at least 2 hours maybe they want to then shut it down and let it run a comp cycle. Then just after the cycle run their test. Not sure if that would tilt in in their favor, i have never looked at mine right after a cycle.

Just a thought
That's basically true, but I suspect what they're finding is not everyone is running compensation cycles due to improper shutdown (you can search waaaayyyy back for my posts on the subject). Also, the only way you can verify a CC was run is via the Service Menu (which I'm sure they access). The fact is, CC really do clean-up a lot of temporary IR and even some banding...especially if it's been on all day (like I do on the weekends).

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