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post #23161 of 24645 Old 12-13-2016, 07:40 AM
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I was reading another thread about the 77" OLED and noticed a screen pic showing an option to choose among 3 HDR settings (similar to selecting one non-HDR picture modes). What are the chances that such a feature/menu will be added to our (older) OLEDs? I don't think it requires the newer WebOS.

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might be nice but i seriously doubt it unless it can be a universal update.
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interested in feedback on this. Just popped in the BD of Hunger Games Mockingjay Pt 2 and its just WAY better looking than the UHD in HDR mode. I'm just not sure if its the HDR or the master.

Will update as I go. I can say though I watched two UHD movies with the Panny 900+Fury and HDR stripped (same thing the oppo will do) and thought they looked fantastic. Id expect the same from the Oppo, and it is really what got me wanting it.

I have talked to others on here, a few that won't post (own other display types not OLED) this, but they too are seeing the inconsistencies with HDR and want the Oppo. It all boils down to the person watching though, and it is fine, because at least we now have plenty of options how to watch UHD blu-ray.

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^^ Really looking forward to your review of the HDR Stipped feature on the oppo. Like you it's the main feature that would cause me to spend $ for the oppo. Like so many I want the expanded color without the other issues HDR can cause.
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^^ Really looking forward to your review of the HDR Stipped feature on the oppo. Like you it's the main feature that would cause me to spend $ for the oppo. Like so many I want the expanded color without the other issues HDR can cause.

And $549 is a lot cheaper than $699 + $249 (Fury and Panny).

I am going to try and get Bourne and Suicide Squad UHD watched this weekend.

When I had the combo, I watched TMNT 2 and it looked outstanding with HDR stripped and 10 bit color in tact. I actually yanked the UHD version of Batman v Superman out after about 20 minutes (dark scene issues) and threw the Blu-ray version in. When I checked it later when I got the Fury and 900, I would have left it in. All these signs tell me HDR and my display are not for me. Like I said, I see the benefits when they are there, but I am not willing to sacrifice for that with what I am seeing in the dark scenes.

Trying to combat the black issues in HDR mode, I went down another click on brightness for Independence Day 2 UHD, and it was so dark it wasn't worth it, granted that cured some of my ills. Just a sacrifice I don't think I should have to make, dark scene contrast is still one of the most important image qualities IMO.

My wife had never seen Jupiter Ascending and wanted too, even though I had both we watched the 1080p version this weekend. Space shots looked great, with plenty of pop light area vs dark areas. I didnt find myself saying "Man, I wish this was HDR". Now I have seen extra sharpness in UHD vs Blu, and better cloud detail with BT 2020 intact vs SDR VT709, so I fully believe you still gain a good bit just having 10 bit color and 2160p resolution.

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^^ Really looking forward to your review of the HDR Stipped feature on the oppo. Like you it's the main feature that would cause me to spend $ for the oppo. Like so many I want the expanded color without the other issues HDR can cause.
If the HDR->SDR issue becomes a big deal, I can't imagine why Panasonic wouldn't issue some sort of a firmware update to add support for that mode. It can't be a hardware limitation.

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If the HDR->SDR issue becomes a big deal, I can't imagine why Panasonic would issue some sort of a firmware update to add support for that mode. It can't be a hardware limitation.

Its odd, for the price tag, that they didnt allow you to use that without tricking it. I mean the 900 is one great player.

On another note, Chad should be in here about a month or so, and he is going to see if that latest FW update changed anything with the display, it seems it did for me, but maybe its something else hour related.

I am also going to have him check WCG On vs Standard, and see how it is behaving. He has a Samsung UHD test disc, but the Panny would not play it when he was here, he said the Philips was the same way, so maybe it will play in the Oppo.

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So about dynamic contrast, I tested out after a couple people said it looked good and it really did improve the PQ with HDR. My question is will this effect the already had input lag if I Game? If so I can always just turn it off when I Game but if not I plan to keep it permanently.
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While DC does make HDR look better, the flashes during dark and light are annoying.
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@gadgtfreek when do you expect to your your Oppo UHD player?
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On Friday, can't wait! Oops, you weren't asking me.

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^^

Just as good. I'm curious to hear your opinions, especially how it handles HDR and the stripping out of HDR but keeping WCG.
I know there are more preorders this Friday which i'm pretty sure I'm going to jump on.
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@gadgtfreek when do you expect to your your Oppo UHD player?
its on my front porch!

I saw your question about speed testing, I can do that. The oppo thread is a mess right now with people that didnt keep up with it not having streaming, and other nonsense so I am just speed reading the 1k hourly posts LOL.

Give me a few movie examples you want me to test, I have many of the new UHD releases from the last few months. Ill be home in a few hours to setup and test so minor things. prob going to run my Tivo thru it at 720p/1080i and let the Oppo scale to 2160p for the 9500.

Ill test HDR removal on Turtles 2 and B v S. B v S is easy to see vertical banding when HDR is on, for me.

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If you have the Hunger games, I'd be interested to see how they look with HDR stripped by WCG kept in as well as HDR left in. I know i've state a few times that with HDR enabled its a dark mess and barely viewable.
Exodus was another that hard to view the night scenes.

if you have Mad Max, I'd be curious to how the red push is. Is the red push the same on both or less on the OPPO. I know the red push on the Sammy was a big complaint.

Star Wars Ep VII had terrible red smearing going on with the Sammy. I'm assuming thats gone? Again, possible DNR on the Sammy.


Im sure there are other things I'd like to see tested, but just a overall impressions of UHD playback compared to the Sammy.
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Ill give the SW's a look for the red smear, I saw that on the Sammy when I had it, never tested the Panny.

Dont have Hunger Games or Mad Max, all those are on 1080p, but ill check when I get home.

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its on my front porch!

I saw your question about speed testing, I can do that. The oppo thread is a mess right now with people that didnt keep up with it not having streaming, and other nonsense so I am just speed reading the 1k hourly posts LOL.

Give me a few movie examples you want me to test, I have many of the new UHD releases from the last few months. Ill be home in a few hours to setup and test so minor things. prob going to run my Tivo thru it at 720p/1080i and let the Oppo scale to 2160p for the 9500.

Ill test HDR removal on Turtles 2 and B v S. B v S is easy to see vertical banding when HDR is on, for me.
Definitely looking forward to the impact of doing this as I may replace my Samsung player for the Oppo.

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Definitely looking forward to the impact of doing this as I may replace my Samsung player for the Oppo.
I enjoyed running things thru my 103D, especially for the ease of pulling up the overlay and seeing what signal was coming in (Audio and Video) and what was going out. Plus, while it may not be better than the display, you at least know you are getting quality scaling.
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I leave it on ALL the time and have not had any issues.
When I first turned this (UHDC) on, about half of my devices would give no picture to the TV. Changed out all my HDMI cables for 18Gbps certified ones, and I now have only one device that doesn't work properly with that mode -- my Oppo BDP-83, which is a pretty old device (2009). Since my Denon AVR has two HDMI outputs, I just send one of them to a different TV input on which I don't have Ultra-HDMI Deep Color on, select the proper output/input combination for the BDP-83, and everything is great.

My guess is that if all your devices are relatively new, you'll have no issues, as long as you don't have HDMI cabling issues.

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My initial Oppo report.
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My 2016 65EF9500 arrived yesterday. Its a 610 panel made this October. After using the slides I feel in my mind like I have an E6 panel. So my desire to own E6 is no more and I can wait for the 2017 models to show up. Very impressed, no curtains. I can see 1% again. The last time I saw 1% was on my 2nd EG9100 that was destroyed(RIP). Very even with some streaky bands in the lower part of the screen starting at 4%. Not the creasing bands like the tv was folded in half, though. Those kinds of bands dont diminish. I am hopful after a couple of compensation cycles that my screen evens out even more, but if not, my panel is very very nice. I may have some questions later, so hopefully some of you guys are around.
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My 2016 65EF9500 arrived yesterday. Its a 610 panel made this October. After using the slides I feel in my mind like I have an E6 panel. So my desire to own E6 is no more and I can wait for the 2017 models to show up. Very impressed, no curtains. I can see 1% again. The last time I saw 1% was on my 2nd EG9100 that was destroyed(RIP). Very even with some streaky bands in the lower part of the screen starting at 4%. Not the creasing bands like the tv was folded in half, though. Those kinds of bands dont diminish. I am hopful after a couple of compensation cycles that my screen evens out even more, but if not, my panel is very very nice. I may have some questions later, so hopefully some of you guys are around.
Wow I didn't realize they were still producing these new as of October. I've been stalling on starting a support call for mine (601 panel), as I have one of those noticeable bands and moderate vignetting. I've been able to remove a lot of the effect thru some magic in the settings but this makes me more optimistic that if I go through with it and get a new panel that the issues have been reduced.
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Wow I didn't realize they were still producing these new as of October. I've been stalling on starting a support call for mine (601 panel), as I have one of those noticeable bands and moderate vignetting. I've been able to remove a lot of the effect thru some magic in the settings but this makes me more optimistic that if I go through with it and get a new panel that the issues have been reduced.
As soon as I saw my numbers, I was like, holy crap, I got an honest to goodness 2016 television. I popped in my slides and right away I noticed at 2% that my edges were lighter than the middle. I was very excited as went through my windows and my full fields. The only issue im having right now is Smartshare recognized my hard drive from the usb port last night and now today I cant get it to recognize. If someone knows whats going on, here. Please help!!!

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As soon as I saw my numbers, I was like, holy crap, I got an honest to goodness 2016 television. I popped in my slides and right away I noticed at 2% that my edges were lighter than the middle. I was very excited as went through my windows and my full fields. The only issue im having right now is Smartshare recognized my hard drive from the usb port last night and now today I cant get it to recognize. If someone knows whats going on, here. Please help!!!
I had the same issue a while ago, although mine was just with a flash drive with minimal on it. I reformatted it in NTFS and after the reformat its been fine for months (I don't use it often). Obviously if you have a ton on this drive it may be a pain to reformat but that corrected it for me.
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I have the new Roku Ultra but am having major issues with the picture. it constantly flashes to a purple screen with a Roku error message about HDCP. It's gotten to the point that watching content via my Roku Ultra is impossible. Has anyone else experienced any issues with the new Roku Ultra? FWIW I had the previous version of the Roku and didn't have any issues until I upgraded to the new one because it supports HDR and UHD via VUDU.
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I have the new Roku Ultra but am having major issues with the picture. it constantly flashes to a purple screen with a Roku error message about HDCP. It's gotten to the point that watching content via my Roku Ultra is impossible. Has anyone else experienced any issues with the new Roku Ultra? FWIW I had the previous version of the Roku and didn't have any issues until I upgraded to the new one because it supports HDR and UHD via VUDU.
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I have the new Roku Ultra but am having major issues with the picture. it constantly flashes to a purple screen with a Roku error message about HDCP. It's gotten to the point that watching content via my Roku Ultra is impossible. Has anyone else experienced any issues with the new Roku Ultra? FWIW I had the previous version of the Roku and didn't have any issues until I upgraded to the new one because it supports HDR and UHD via VUDU.
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Recently my Netflix app on the LG OLED (65EF9500) was changed. Selecting the info button on the LG remote no longer provides stream speed. Checking other TV web sites indicates this is a problem across several TV manufacturers. Anyone know how to get the streaming speed while playing a Netflix stream video?

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Recently my Netflix app on the LG OLED (65EF9500) was changed. Selecting the info button on the LG remote no longer provides stream speed. Checking other TV web sites indicates this is a problem across several TV manufacturers. Anyone know how to get the streaming speed while playing a Netflix stream video?
netflix is removing access to that debug menu in new versions of the app. Yep, another customer friendly move by a big company...

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