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No matter what OLED you buy, you will be forced to use a riser for a soundbar or center channel.
Or, a ZVOX.
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Cool, I had to look that up...I would be worried about sound quality compromise. Have you been able to audition one?
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Or, a ZVOX.
Thanks for that reference----I had to look it up. Thing is a moose, but when you consider what a riser is and does, it pretty much makes quite a bit of sense to me.
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No, but I hear they're pretty good for a one piece unit plus they give you several models to choose from.
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Cool, I had to look that up...I would be worried about sound quality compromise. Have you been able to audition one?
Ah....what he ^^^^ said.

Perhaps the physical depth lends itself to more speaker shenanigans than a sound bar has room for?
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Ah....what he ^^^^ said.

Perhaps the physical depth lends itself to more speaker shenanigans than a sound bar has room for?
I'm pretty sure ZVOX understands their market and most people don't have room to place a speaker in front of their television. Plus, the box that holds the speaker drivers have plenty of room to increased bass response.
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quick question prob answered already.... if i dont need speaker bar or 3d is the b series my best option or should i still buy the more expensive series?
Although I haven't read any definitive answer and there are some confusing reviews (from sites like CNET) it seems from some posts I've read here, that you are not paying more on the E series just for 3d or better sound but because the E model has more brightness and a better/newer processor. Sure, I would like to pay less and buy a B model but I fear that I might regret that buy and ask myself with it didn't buy the "better" one. At least now I'm decided to buy an OLED tv. My only question now is should I buy a 65" B or E series...

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Sorry to ask again any gamer with PS4 and Destiny?
I have a PS4 and Destiny. Not a hardcore gamer, so not an expert, but looks fantastic and not noticing any lag issues although that is subjective.
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I have a PS4 and Destiny. Not a hardcore gamer, so not an expert, but looks fantastic and not noticing any lag issues although that is subjective.
Could you post some photos or videos? Thanks

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Sure! Note this is with a mobile camera. Colors look better in person and detail is easier to see between contrasting dark and light areas. Also note white lettering is sharp in person, looks slightly blown out in these pics. Lastly, I sized the images down so they seem blockier.

It looks real nice in person :laughing:
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Although I haven't read any definitive answer and there are some confusing reviews (from sites like CNET) it seems from some posts I've read here, that you are not paying more on the E series just for 3d or better sound but because the E model has more brightness and a better/newer processor. Sure, I would like to pay less and buy a B model but I fear that I might regret that buy and ask myself with it didn't buy the "better" one. At least now I'm decided to buy an OLED tv. My only question now is should I buy a 65" B or E series...

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Interestingly, rtings has the B6 with higher brightness capabilities, and also now recommends the B6 over the E6 given the gulf in pricing yet the proximity in quality.

The E6 costs 25% more than the B6. Whether that increase in price is enough to justify 3D, a soundbar, and about a 1-4% increase in DCI color space is up to you.

I went with the B6 because I don't use 3D nor do I need a soundbar, so I couldn't justify the price differential.

Hope that helps.
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Although I haven't read any definitive answer and there are some confusing reviews (from sites like CNET) it seems from some posts I've read here, that you are not paying more on the E series just for 3d or better sound but because the E model has more brightness and a better/newer processor. Sure, I would like to pay less and buy a B model but I fear that I might regret that buy and ask myself with it didn't buy the "better" one. At least now I'm decided to buy an OLED tv. My only question now is should I buy a 65" B or E series...

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This is an interesting thought. For me, I set out to spend $2,000 to $2,500. I wanted an LG OLED so bad after going to the store 1-3 times a week but couldn't justify spending that kind of money. So, after looking and researching what seemed like an eternity, I compromised and bought a Sony home. Within a weeks time, I found myself back at the store to exchange that tv for the OLED that I told myself I wasn't going to get. But I was in a dilemma. I would be downsizing from a 65" to a 55" screen size with a C6. When it came time to go get the tv, I told myself there was no way I was going to compromise and I was going to charge the damn thing and just get the bigger tv. Of course, I really wanted a 75" or better because I have lived with my 65" Samsung for over two years and wanted something bigger, but I digress. D

I will tell you this. Don't compromise and get the tv you want and can afford. Regardless, you will be happier in the long run. If I could afford the 65" E6, I would have got it. Same goes for the G6. Good luck with your decision. We're here to help!
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Sure! Note this is with a mobile camera. Colors look better in person and detail is easier to see between contrasting dark and light areas. Also note white lettering is sharp in person, looks slightly blown out in these pics. Lastly, I sized the images down so they seem blockier.

It looks real nice in person :laughing:
Wow beautiful pictures! The second one with the ship flying over Earth shows off great natural colors!!

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Interestingly, rtings has the B6 with higher brightness capabilities, and also now recommends the B6 over the E6 given the gulf in pricing yet the proximity in quality.

The E6 costs 25% more than the B6. Whether that increase in price is enough to justify 3D, a soundbar, and about a 1-4% increase in DCI color space is up to you.

I went with the B6 because I don't use 3D nor do I need a soundbar, so I couldn't justify the price differential.

Hope that helps.
Yes, I just read it at rtings. Quite interesting .

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This is an interesting thought. For me, I set out to spend $2,000 to $2,500. I wanted an LG OLED so bad after going to the store 1-3 times a week but couldn't justify spending that kind of money. So, after looking and researching what seemed like an eternity, I compromised and bought a Sony home. Within a weeks time, I found myself back at the store to exchange that tv for the OLED that I told myself I wasn't going to get. But I was in a dilemma. I would be downsizing from a 65" to a 55" screen size with a C6. When it came time to go get the tv, I told myself there was no way I was going to compromise and I was going to charge the damn thing and just get the bigger tv. Of course, I really wanted a 75" or better because I have lived with my 65" Samsung for over two years and wanted something bigger, but I digress. D

I will tell you this. Don't compromise and get the tv you want and can afford. Regardless, you will be happier in the long run. If I could afford the 65" E6, I would have got it. Same goes for the G6. Good luck with your decision. We're here to help!
Thank you very much for your insight. Yes, I agree with you and when I buy something, once I've made a decision I always go with the best option so I can enjoy it. The thing is that if I can know for sure that there is a real advantage between the E model and the B model, beside the 3d option which I don't care much, I would buy the E model but as I told you, I've read some conflicting reviews, and know almost all of them recommends the B over the E.
If the E model provides, for a fact, better upscaling and image processing than the B model and a wider color gamut I would choose the E without hesitation but I haven't read yet an specific E vs B review anywhere. Basically all reviews use very imprecise and ambiguous words saying that the differences are so minimal that the would choose the B model but what these reviewers don't get is that we would appreciate a throughly review detailing those "minor" differences....

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Yes, I just read it at rtings. Quite interesting .
I really don't know if the E6 is faster and so has better processing. Reports do disagree. I hope so, but...! However, even not knowing, for me the E6 was/is worth it for the beautiful design and, although I have never been into 3D at all, 3D on the E6 is superb - immaculate crisp clear images. Almost makes you think you might watch it.....sometimes!
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I have a PS4 and Destiny. Not a hardcore gamer, so not an expert, but looks fantastic and not noticing any lag issues although that is subjective.
That's Perfect , thanks a lot!
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Sure! Note this is with a mobile camera. Colors look better in person and detail is easier to see between contrasting dark and light areas. Also note white lettering is sharp in person, looks slightly blown out in these pics. Lastly, I sized the images down so they seem blockier.

It looks real nice in person :laughing:
Is it just me or do the edges/corners of the pictures look slightly darker?

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So, does anyone here know what could cause the problem user zapete posted two pages back? Is it cable related? I don't think it's a defective panel or graphic card...Perhaps someone knowledgeable enough could chime in and help a fellow OLED owner.
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Sure! Note this is with a mobile camera. Colors look better in person and detail is easier to see between contrasting dark and light areas. Also note white lettering is sharp in person, looks slightly blown out in these pics. Lastly, I sized the images down so they seem blockier.

It looks real nice in person :laughing:
Is it just me or do the edges/corners of the pictures look slightly darker?

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Yes you are seeing that, but it is completely created or exaggerated by the cell phone camera which I disclosed in my post.

These are not professional photos.

The camera shows the object of focus (center screen) relatively accurately whereas darker or out of focus areas (around the center) become abnormally dark.
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I will most definitely go OLED perhaps next year to replace my aging plasma but I'll tell you what...seeing the B6/E6 displayed in Best Buy/ABT/Fry's etc does not make me want to jump on one. The way it is set up in store makes it look like a bright, ghosting mess.

I know that the picture and tech is superior and I also know that the way TV's are displayed in stores are ultra high brightness. I get all that.

LG would do itself a favor by getting some decent source material and some level of calibration in store. Joe Public is not going to pay $1000 premium over a Samsung LCD the way they show in store.
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The Samsungs look washed out. The Sony Zd9 was next to a LG G and they were playing same content. The Sony was pixelated . I wasn't impressed.

The LG look so much better. I think the E looks better than G at this particular Beft Buy.
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Likely unrelated (but maybe not), but are you sure that your TV isn't frame dropping?

The nVidia settings are source side and are only showing what are being sent to the TV and what the TV is accepting for input, not what is actually displayed.

For instance, on my TV, 720p at 120fps displays all 120 frames. But raise that to 1080p120 (no matter what the TV EDID is reporting back to nVidia) and the frame skipping test by Mark Rejhon's site (blurbusters.com) shows some of the frames not being displayed.

[Note: If you do run his test, note that when the test says "confirmed", it only means that your browser can display that many frames per second. If it is still saying this, it is really unfortunate phrasing. You still have to pull out your handy dandy cell phone and snap a picture to tell if a frame or two are routinely missing.]








The "Frame Skipping Check..." test. Seems fine to me. Took the photos with the highest exposure setting on the iPhone 6S Plus's camera.

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Hello zapete! I'm facing this exact same problem with my 55B6 bought two weeks ago. I've been using Amazon basic HDMI 2.0 cables (1,8m lenght) and my PC is also set on HDMI1 (Label PC and on Game picture mode). I'm seeing these artifacts as I type...

My specs are: i5-3570k, GTX 980, 16GB DDR3.

I have tried everything I could and even called LG support, but they didn't help much. They said it's because of my graphic card, but I don't buy it. I've been using this card with no problem whatsoever for a year and a half...

I'll buy some other cables soon (KabelDirekt perhaps?), but I would love to know if you're still facing the issue or if you found a way to solve it. Any help would be highly appreciated.

Best regards.
I'm still in the process of finding a fix and my next course of action was ordering cables from Blue Jeans Cable (thanks to jong1 for suggesting it).

The company appears to have a stellar reputation across the web so I pulled the trigger yesterday. Now we wait for the arrival of the cables and hopefully, these annoying problems would be solved.

I'll let you know if it does fix the issues.
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The Samsungs look washed out. The Sony Zd9 was next to a LG G and they were playing same content. The Sony was pixelated . I wasn't impressed.

The LG look so much better. I think the E looks better than G at this particular Beft Buy.
Yeah well I noticed the same thing on my last visit but careful here. I made them check and temp settings were different on both sets. One was too cool for my taste and warm2 was just right. Same running content and different temp settings.

These sets should appear darn near identical for the most part in my opinion or at least really close.

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I will most definitely go OLED perhaps next year to replace my aging plasma but I'll tell you what...seeing the B6/E6 displayed in Best Buy/ABT/Fry's etc does not make me want to jump on one. The way it is set up in store makes it look like a bright, ghosting mess.
Over a year and a half ago, I heard Fry's in Las Vegas had the LG's 77" OLED on display. I got in the car and drove over 200 miles to take a look.

I walked in the store and right in the middle store was a large display so everyone could see.

And what I saw, beside the $24,999.99 sales price, was a large screen covered with IR and burn-in. The entire 77" was destroyed. It was awful. Even standing 40 feet away, it was extremely visible.

I asked the GM when they got the set. I was told in January (about 6 months before I walked in) and when it arrived, the set was plugged in and a two minute loop played constantly.

Not in a million years did they ever sell that set for $24,999.99.

Best Buys seem to be displaying the new OLEG's a little better.


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What's the difference bw the 55" and 65" B series sets again other than the obvious size difference? Seems like I read the internal components are different.
That's about it, size only........
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That's about it, size only........


Thanks for responding. Am I maybe thinking of the vizio p series that has a difference bw the 55 & 65" Tvs? Or maybe another brand?


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The Samsungs look washed out. The Sony Zd9 was next to a LG G and they were playing same content. The Sony was pixelated . I wasn't impressed.

The LG look so much better. I think the E looks better than G at this particular Beft Buy.
I must admit I haven't seen the acclaimed KS9800, but every time I go to BB Samsung's always look like crap to me. Even in Magnolia which has better lighting for viewing TV's the JS9500 looks so unappealing compared to the x940C and E6 last time I went. I guess I do need to see their actual FALD sets sometime
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The Vizio Ps have different panels. 55" is IPS and 65" is VA.
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They are all VA except for the 55, so they are mostly the same. Don't know why Vizio keeps doing that every year. It's always the size I would want to get that just happens to be the IPS panel too
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