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Would the NViDia Shield count?
Not if it only has a single HDMI output.
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Outputs, outs. Dual, two. All synonymous. So Yes.
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Thanks. It was eating at my brain wondering what if, so I exchanged it at BB. Big shocker: the new panel has vignetting, too It seems slightly better, so I might as well just stick with it and let it be. I think it's a fact of life with OLED for now. Other than this small issue, the PQ is much better than the 4k LCD I'm coming from. I'll try tweaking the gamma a bit, too.
Just stay with it. Most owners have this issue to some extent but it's either not an issue for normal content or the comp cycles clean it up pretty well.

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I can't quite tell from your picture but my stand in 90* and my TV is perfectly upright. I remember having an issue getting the stand "into" the TV.
Because I removed the stand and had to assemble everything again, I made sure the screws where tight and everything is in place. There's no space between the płastic and the tv. The two plastic pins fit into the two little holes.

Operation lift and check stand with my wife was a success :-)

The bottom of the TV is also resting on the same plastic part (with the screwholes) so this also looks ok. Currently it is simply not possible to get it 90* because the stand itself (the plastic part with the screwholes) has a small angle. I doubled checked everything and looked if I could change this, but no.

The stand itself looks assembled properly.
Maybe it's changed in the latest models or because I have an european version.
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Just stay with it. Most owners have this issue to some extent but it's either not an issue for normal content or the comp cycles clean it up pretty well.
I think I'm going to keep this one. It has some vignetting, but it's definitely better than the first one. Picture is amazing compared to the LCD...no dirty screen effect, so clouding, no blooming, no flashlighting, huge improvement in contrast Once prices come down a bit more, I think LCD TVs are done. No one who cares about PQ would choose an LCD (FALD or not) over an OLED.
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Just wondering what OLED light setting everyone is using for a dark room? I used a APL pattern, and 100% white gives me 40 ftL (137 nits) when I set OLED light to 35. I normally don't run my TVs this bright, but I've had LCDs in the past. Even though the OLED is brighter, it doesn't seem as harsh on the eyes.
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Try some other shows. Westworld is known to be bad, especially when being streamed through HBO. It's one of the worst encodes I have ever seen. Sadly.

So the problem here is more likely the source rather than your TV
This is actually a relief reading that it may be the source material and not my B6.

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I think I'm going to keep this one. It has some vignetting, but it's definitely better than the first one. Picture is amazing compared to the LCD...no dirty screen effect, so clouding, no blooming, no flashlighting, huge improvement in contrast Once prices come down a bit more, I think LCD TVs are done. No one who cares about PQ would choose an LCD (FALD or not) over an OLED.
I agree. The higher -end LCDs are actually pretty nice but NOT for what they charge for them. The Z9 from Sony and KS9000 series from Sammy are solid but no way Im paying MORE for those than an OLED. That'd be plain old stupid.

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Just wondering what OLED light setting everyone is using for a dark room? I used a APL pattern, and 100% white gives me 40 ftL (137 nits) when I set OLED light to 35. I normally don't run my TVs this bright, but I've had LCDs in the past. Even though the OLED is brighter, it doesn't seem as harsh on the eyes.
Hmmm - I run my dark room OLED setting at 50. Seems high compared to many of you. Contrast 82, Brightness 52, Gamma 2.2. Everything else OFF. The blacks seem good at these settings for me. I have NOT tweaked that IRE 5% luminance value which lots of owners recommend doing. Might try a few clicks to tease out more "almost black" detail but so far it hasnt realy been a problem. Ill trade a little extra detail for inky, unrelenting blacks.

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I agree. The higher -end LCDs are actually pretty nice but NOT for what they charge for them. The Z9 from Sony and KS9000 series from Sammy are solid but no way Im paying MORE for those than an OLED. That'd be plain old stupid.



Hmmm - I run my dark room OLED setting at 50. Seems high compared to many of you. Contrast 82, Brightness 52, Gamma 2.2. Everything else OFF. The blacks seem good at these settings for me. I have NOT tweaked that IRE 5% luminance value which lots of owners recommend doing. Might try a few clicks to tease out more "almost black" detail but so far it hasnt realy been a problem. Ill trade a little extra detail for inky, unrelenting blacks.
Cool. I was watching last night at OLED light 35, and it seemed a little dim. I'm bumping it back up to 40 and will try that for a while. Otherwise, I didn't change ISF dark much, just bumped brightness to 51, put gamma at 2.2, and lowered sharpness to 0 (hopefully this is the right move. I read on one site that anything below 10 actually softens things, but not sure). Sweet TV
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Using gamma 2.4 will bring out more black detail by itself. That's what I use anyway (plus an OLED light at a "dim" 30!)....this is all when watching standard HD mind you. 3D's a bit different, and I've been mired in it lately catching up with some of the most notable releases over the last 6 years (Captain America's Civil War being the latest viewing that is jawdropping).
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I replaced my Panasonic TC-P58VT25 with an LG OLED65E6P.
It is paired with a Pioneer VSX-1124-K AV receiver with all appliances (e.g. Set Top Box, Chromecast, Xbox One) connected by HDMI to the receiver.

I'm experiencing an automatic input switching issue.

Turning on the television, or entering some menus, prompts an unwanted input change from the current input (typically the STB). These issues did not occur with the VT25 otherwise identically connected to the receiver.

I am beginning to suspect that the receiver simply isn't compatible with the TV, yet hope someone here has a solution.

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I have same issue with my Pioneer receiver. The Pioneer jumps to the TV input when I hit pause on Samsung UHD Blu ray player. I have TWO HDMI cables. One to the TV and the second to the Pioneer for Audio. If I turn any of the HDMI control options off either in the TV or Receiver I lose ARC. The TV is telling the Pioneer to change like it's expecting ARC when I hit pause.
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Yes, disable all CEC options. It's another sh*tshow of incompatibilities brought to you by haphazard implementations of poorly defined HDMI features.
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I'd love to watch that but I had to stop because I couldn't understand a freaking thing the guy was saying. Either his mic was clipping, my monitor speakers are broken, or something totally un-politically-correct to mention was in his mouth, because it was painful to listen to.
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Cool. I was watching last night at OLED light 35, and it seemed a little dim. I'm bumping it back up to 40 and will try that for a while. Otherwise, I didn't change ISF dark much, just bumped brightness to 51, put gamma at 2.2, and lowered sharpness to 0 (hopefully this is the right move. I read on one site that anything below 10 actually softens things, but not sure). Sweet TV
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Using gamma 2.4 will bring out more black detail by itself. That's what I use anyway (plus an OLED light at a "dim" 30!)....this is all when watching standard HD mind you. 3D's a bit different, and I've been mired in it lately catching up with some of the most notable releases over the last 6 years (Captain America's Civil War being the latest viewing that is jawdropping).
I posted my newest settings for Dark Room in the "enhance black details" thread but here they are again.

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OLED Light - 50
Contrast - 84
Brightness - 51
Color/Tint - No changes, 50/0
All Enhancements OFF

Color Temp - Warm2
Gamma - BT1886
IRE 5 Luminence Adjustment: +8

I also did some small changes to the 2-point color settings to calm red down just a touch. We watched The Two Towers tonight and I was pleased with what I saw for overall black & black details. More testing to come but Im thinking I can finally just "watch the damned TV" instead of always messing with it. . My Bright Room settings are also in the Black Details thread.
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My mistake...didn't realize your previous settings were daytime. I'm actually using BT.1886 for nighttime instead (which causes gamma to behave very similar to 2.4 on OLED).
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I think I'm going to keep this one. It has some vignetting, but it's definitely better than the first one.
What month was it manufactured in?
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I posted my newest settings for Dark Room in the "enhance black details" thread but here they are again.

Expert Dark Room
OLED Light - 50
Contrast - 84
Brightness - 51
Color/Tint - No changes, 50/0
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Color Temp - Warm2
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I also did some small changes to the 2-point color settings to calm red down just a touch. We watched The Two Towers tonight and I was pleased with what I saw for overall black & black details. More testing to come but Im thinking I can finally just "watch the damned TV" instead of always messing with it. . My Bright Room settings are also in the Black Details thread.
Haha, I know what you mean about "just watching the damned TV." I'm still trying to decide between gamma 2.2 or BT1886. BT gives a very contrasty image, but I seem to prefer the slightly brighter 2.2, even with the lights out.
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What month was it manufactured in?
Looks like Sept. 2016. I'm not sure about the one I took back.
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The Hobbit in 3D is a revelation. I had become desensitized to 3D (you can only be blown away so many times), but this was simply done on another level (and I've only made it through the first part of the trilogy). All that's missing is a bigger screen. Other than that, it's a reminder that I made the right decision to grab an OLED after the more dismal 2015 models (I could find no uniformity faults while watching this pristine presentation). The biggest travesty with the 2016 OLED lineup is the lack of 3D on the B6. Those who dismiss it outright are doing themselves a great disservice.
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Haha, I know what you mean about "just watching the damned TV." I'm still trying to decide between gamma 2.2 or BT1886. BT gives a very contrasty image, but I seem to prefer the slightly brighter 2.2, even with the lights out.
2.2 is also good but during dark evening viewing I felt it was just a tad too bright. Using 1886 and then setting contrast, OLED light and luminance from there really helped me dial this TV in. I'm staying with the settings for the foreseeable future. The Two Towers looked incredible last night!

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The Hobbit in 3D is a revelation. I had become desensitized to 3D (you can only be blown away so many times), but this was simply done on another level (and I've only made it through the first part of the trilogy). All that's missing is a bigger screen. Other than that, it's a reminder that I made the right decision to grab an OLED after the more dismal 2015 models (I could find no uniformity faults while watching this pristine presentation). The biggest travesty with the 2016 OLED lineup is the lack of 3D on the B6. Those who dismiss it outright are doing themselves a great disservice.
Yeah, it does stink that they didn't do 3D on all of the sets. But, I'm glad I went with the E model and got the 3D. I always felt it was a silly gimmick but when it performs this good.....it's hard not to appreciate it more and get sucked in. Now, I find myself hunting for good 3D titles. My only concern is that with several mfgers dropping it is that we'll stop seeing new content being released for home. I'd hate to see it be a theater only novelty. I hope not!

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I know what you mean...my collection went from under 10 to over 50 this holiday season. I fear I've probably exhausted all the premium titles, but then I keep seeing obscure recommendations so that reassures me I'll be able to appreciate the feature for some time yet. What's a further travesty is the titles in 3D that are released separately as UHD (X-Men Apocalypse being the most difficult of late to choose since the presentations of both are apparently reference ).
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I know what you mean...my collection went from under 10 to over 50 this holiday season. I fear I've probably exhausted all the premium titles, but then I keep seeing obscure recommendations so that reassures me I'll be able to appreciate the feature for some time yet. What's a further travesty is the titles in 3D that are released separately as UHD (X-Men Apocalypse being the most difficult of late to choose since the presentations of both are apparently reference ).
Yep. I'm trying to NOT rebuy titles I already own and make sure I stick with what are good movies too. Don't wanna get caught up in buying titles just for the 3D since a bad movie is a bad movie!

I've had some great luck with documentaries and stuff like that which are perfect for 3D. IMAX Deep blue sea, little Giants, flight of the butterflies, etc, etc are all great titles. I always seek out content like that. I just hope they keep releasing new stuff!

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I'm about to order an 55E6 and was wondering if it's possible (and reasonable) to connect an external subwoofer directly to the TV. So I can use built-in speakers + subwoofer at the same time.

Is it possible to control a volume level for external sound source from TV settings somehow ?

I'm considering something like Yamaha NS-SW 210 (avail. in stock in my local shop + matches by design)
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^No, there is no subwoofer out unfortunately (and no way to control volume separately, unless you get a European model with a headphone output!).

@RoadLizard Too late for me, I'll just resell the few baddies I don't want, hah. Thanks for the recommendations. I have a few Imax, but none of those. They tend to be more affordable than the blockbusters and mainstream flicks.

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^No, there is no subwoofer out unfortunately (and no way to control volume separately, unless you get a European model with a headphone output!).
I'm actually in Netherlands and getting EU model How does it work with headphone output ? Can TV play sound on both soundbar + output at the same time ?
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@RoadLizard Too late for me, I'll just resell the few baddies I don't want, hah. Thanks for the recommendations. I have a few Imax, but none of those. They tend to be more affordable than the blockbusters and mainstream flicks.
All good. I just picked up Gravity in 3D. And yeah, the documentaries are usually very reasonable and are worth getting IMO. They are great demo material since they're shorter and always use the full screen.

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THANKS!! Was just about to post a question whether Color Gamut 'Normal' or 'Extended'.

Now the second part of my original question is Dynamic Contrast Low High or OFF? I am specifically referring to UHD 4K blu-rays. After watching the beginning of SULLY 4K UHD blu-ray, I toggled it Low-High and finally OFF. To me, DC OFF seemed the best since the blacks were slightly elevated and with DC ON it made them murky almost grey. Not good to my eyes.

What do you guys set DC to: On-OFF?
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THANKS!! Was just about to post a question whether Color Gamut 'Normal' or 'Extended'.

Now the second part of my original question is Dynamic Contrast Low High or OFF? I am specifically referring to UHD 4K blu-rays. After watching the beginning of SULLY 4K UHD blu-ray, I toggled it Low-High and finally OFF. To me, DC OFF seemed the best since the blacks were slightly elevated and with DC ON it made them murky almost grey. Not good to my eyes.

What do you guys set DC to: On-OFF?
I always turn that stuff off. Some people like the effect, though. Since these OLEDs have infinite contrast, I don't see the point of trying to enhance that, unless maybe it helped bring out shadow details or something.
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