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well let's see...e6 and g6 both have 4 hdmi ports so you are wrong there. and no one has proven (or until now even claimed) the g6 is brighter.
edit: im not sure what the "display area" discrepancy refers to?
It is incorrect on HDMI ports, I've yet to see a E6 so not speaking from experience.
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That's How I was feeling about it, I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on the E6 unless I can see a $2000 difference. I mean I know both is going to be amazing, especially since the people I'm upgrading is coming from a Sony KDE-50XS955. But The sound bar does nothing for me on the G6 since I'm doing a new whole surround sound.
I was going for a E6 when I went to BB that day, expecting needing to drive 1 1/2hrs to the closet BB warehouse to pick it up.. I was satisfied with upgrading from the EG9600 to the E6 and would have been grateful to get BB to extend my CC to cover the E6.. The Magnolia center at the BB happen to have a G6 come in and BB extended my store credit, the only reason why I went G6.. otherwise, it would have been E6..

I agree the sound bar, while better than the inclusive sound of today's TVs.. doesn't replace a dedicated soundbar and woofer (or home theater audio).
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Just got my 55" e6 delivered I'm officially apart of the club now
Congrats.. Life of Pi was the first 4K disk I played and suggest it for that first feeling of owner satisfaction..
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I don't really feel like there is a 2000k difference, and I have a g6. Same panel, same guts. I would doubt the qc is any better otherwise there wouldn't be 3D issues on a variety of g6 owners
I think we need some more in depth reviews or at least some measurements before we know if there are any significant differences. David did the G6 write-up for HDTVTest and measured 744 nits peak. Not sure if that measurement was taken from a stock G6 or the first showroom model that LG sent out exclusively to a few retailers like VE that could have been a hand picked unit. HDTVTest posted a review of the 55" E6 with peak brightness of 596 nits. We'll need to see a few more measurements from the G6 and 65" E6. FlatpanelsHD posted that they received a 65E6 for review yesterday.
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Congrats.. Life of Pi was the first 4K disk I played and suggest it for that first feeling of owner satisfaction..
Thx and will do!
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Has anybody in here had the E6P and decided to upgrade to the G6P for quality differences ? The only think I can find that the G6P has is a better processor, sound bar and that it folds behind the TV. Did i miss something else ? Is it really worth the extra $2,000 ??
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I don't really feel like there is a 2000k difference, and I have a g6. Same panel, same guts. I would doubt the qc is any better otherwise there wouldn't be 3D issues on a variety of g6 owners
Also, to debunk one remaining point, I've heard nothing about the G6 having a different SOC than the E6. The E6 and G6 do both use a different SOC than the B6 and C6 (this much I even confirmed first-hand when I ran into someone from LG at a store), but there's nothing to suggest the E6 and G6 differ — especially considering their specs are identical aside from physical design and number and kind of speakers. There could be a QC difference, but reports here don't seem to point to one. (Though I would expect LG to be somewhat more accommodating with minor defects in the G6.)
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The only noticeable difference I see between the G6 and E6 is the placement of the TV ports in the stand in the G6 to give the display back a slimmer profile while using stand mode.. and the E6 ports are built into the lower back of the display, like the other OLED models of present and past..

I think there's a bit of unfair marketing for the E6 on LG's website because they make the glass bezel look like it's not transparent, but when I look at videos on Youtube for the E6, the bezel looks transparent similar to the G6.

(look at the mountain line shown transparent through the glass bezel in the G6 marketing material and not transparent in the E6)
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Did they swap out your original G6?
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Did they swap out your original G6?


Yes they did. Received it yesterday. Haven't had a chance to put it through its paces, but no issues with 3D, as I was able to test that when they swapped out. No crosstalk using the rabbit test. Watched hockey last night. No noticeable banding. Plus, off axis green is a lot less then I had before.
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Yes they did. Received it yesterday. Haven't had a chance to put it through its paces, but no issues with 3D, as I was able to test that when they swapped out. No crosstalk using the rabbit test. Watched hockey last night. No noticeable banding. Plus, off axis green is a lot less then I had before.
New build date vs. old build date?
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New build date vs. old build date?


New was 604. Old was 602.
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Thanks for the heads up.

Firmware is also up for the E6. Version 03.10.17. Downloading and installing now but I have to leave for work so I can't check anything until tonight.
The firmware on my 65E6 is 03.10.04. I haven't received an update yet, and it doesn't find one yet when I search. I'm guessing this will come through later? That's a big jump from .04 to .17 though...I'm curious what changes it brings. What was your firmware version before the update to .17?
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The firmware on my 65E6 is 03.10.04. I haven't received an update yet, and it doesn't find one yet when I search. I'm guessing this will come through later? That's a big jump from .04 to .17 though...I'm curious what changes it brings. What was your firmware version before the update to .17?
My TV shipped with 03.08.04 I believe and I did an update to 03.10.04 when I got it last Thursday.
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Better yet, they calibrate at the store before shipment.
Apologies for my ignorance, but I was under the impression that calibrating should be done after "break in" typically between 100-200 hours? Or is the initial calibration done to just get it looking good during the break in?
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It is incorrect on HDMI ports, I've yet to see a E6 so not speaking from experience.
My 65E6 definitely has 4 HDMI Ports. Other owners here have also confirmed this.
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Mine has 4 hdmi inputs as well
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I agree the sound bar, while better than the inclusive sound of today's TVs.. doesn't replace a dedicated soundbar and woofer (or home theater audio).
Well...

I don't think anyone is saying that the soundbar on this TV alone competes with an aftermarket soundbar AND subwoofer.

I think what everyone would like to know is - how is this soundbar compared to other soundbars WITHOUT a subwoofer.

And - how would this soundbar and the addition of a subwoofer - compare to an aftermarket soundbar and subwoofer.

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Yes they did. Received it yesterday. Haven't had a chance to put it through its paces, but no issues with 3D, as I was able to test that when they swapped out. No crosstalk using the rabbit test. Watched hockey last night. No noticeable banding. Plus, off axis green is a lot less then I had before.
Now this is promising!
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Well...

I don't think anyone is saying that the soundbar on this TV alone competes with an aftermarket soundbar AND subwoofer.

I think what everyone would like to know is - how is this soundbar compared to other soundbars WITHOUT a subwoofer.

And - how would this soundbar and the addition of a subwoofer - compare to an aftermarket soundbar and subwoofer.

I may be missing something, but I do not see where a sub woofer can be attached to the tv's soundbar.
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Anyone who went through with an exchange, do the delivery personal have to open the new TV? Not sure if I will have the time to do this during a work day. Thanks!
They don't have to but if it were me I would let them just so I can inspect and save each other an unwanted trip back
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Apologies for my ignorance, but I was under the impression that calibrating should be done after "break in" typically between 100-200 hours? Or is the initial calibration done to just get it looking good during the break in?
The displays are broken in at the store prior to calibration.

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Well...

I don't think anyone is saying that the soundbar on this TV alone competes with an aftermarket soundbar AND subwoofer.

I think what everyone would like to know is - how is this soundbar compared to other soundbars WITHOUT a subwoofer.

And - how would this soundbar and the addition of a subwoofer - compare to an aftermarket soundbar and subwoofer.

Its similar to a soundbar without a woofer, though I'm using a Sony HT‑ST7 with my G6 and don't believe the built-in soundbar outperforms the ST7 soundbar 1:1.
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I may be missing something, but I do not see where a sub woofer can be attached to the tv's soundbar.
I was going to say this also, but then thought about how I own a Sony sub somewhere in storage that use a USB dongle attachment; though I got it free as part of a promotion with the Sony 900b. Not sure that would work on the LG.
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So when are you going to post the best settings for these OLED TV's? We are all waiting.....


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You'd be wasting your time.
I know you're a calibrator and all, but I have to disagree with you to a point. Out of the box these sets aren't the best looking. One might be able to dink around a bit but without the proper calibration tools, you might not get the best results. Once I input David Mackensie's "Pre-Calibration" settings, I was very happy with my set. Someone else posted their calibration settings on page 86, and they look great too. Are they the absolute best values for my particular set? No. Am I going to have a professional calibrate it in the near future? Absolutely. Until then I will enjoy a pretty dang good image. To say another persons settings for the same TV will be a waste of time is just false information. And it's not like it's going to break anything to try either.
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Do u guys use 16:9 with just scan or original with just scan? Which one is correct?
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The displays are broken in at the store prior to calibration.
Question - Can every source be calibrated?
Can for example UHD Blu Ray source with HDR be calibrated ?
Can Dolby Vision be calibrated? I believe that in Dolby Vision the DV takes over the picture attributes? In other words there is no option to select ISF picture mode in DV as it only shows Dolby Vision as the picture mode...
I hope my questions are making sense but with so many different sources including Streaming from Vudu, Youtube, Netflix with or without HDR and DV, Amazon with or without HDR, Cable TV, UHD Blu Ray - how do you calibrate the TV so it shows a calibrated a perfect picture in each of these many sources.
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All sources can be calibrated and the White Balance and Color Management sections can be shared across all picture modes. What isn't shared with each input or source are the basic settings like OLED Light, Contrast, etc. These will need to be adjusted per input, unless there is a sneaky calibrator way to do it. Dolby Vision and HDR modes will be calibrated differently and SpectraCal is currently working with LG to determine the proper way to do it.

I personally wouldn't pay to have my set calibrated until those values and methods are ironed out, unless your calibrator will come back to adjust Dolby Vision and HDR modes for free.

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I think we need some more in depth reviews or at least some measurements before we know if there are any significant differences. David did the G6 write-up for HDTVTest and measured 744 nits peak. Not sure if that measurement was taken from a stock G6 or the first showroom model that LG sent out exclusively to a few retailers like VE that could have been a hand picked unit.

he notes in the review that he used a retail model and should be a representative of all units sold.
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The displays are broken in at the store prior to calibration.
WelL, that explains it! Thanks Buzz. Also, that's a great service!
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