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I remember those. Weighed a metric ton lol.
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Well, the E6 passed the final test the EF9500 had issues with, that is Blindspot on NBC. This one was notorious for blocky minecraft blacks due to compression. The E6 isn't quite late gen Panny plasma clean, but it looks fine IMO especially since I don't have to crush 1% black like I did on the EF9500 to cover much of the issue up.
That's on live now (DISH here), and it looks pretty damn good to me! I can only imagine how much better it would look OTA where there is supposedly less compression (locale depending).
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Ummm, the name of this thread is the 65E6P and 65G6P Owners Thread. Get out!
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He was also impressed with the 77" as compared to the 65" G's he has calibrated. He felt the uniformity was better and that the white balance was also better. That was interesting to hear and made me feel like a proud papa. lol.
Considering how much you paid for the set combined that any of those sets are supposed to be special orders anyway, I would HOPE that it would be the highest quality panel LG can muster.
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Considering how much you paid for the set combined that any of those sets are supposed to be special orders anyway, I would HOPE that it would be the highest quality panel LG can muster.
If LG has a few 77 inch models that were returned because they were not perfect, I would gladly be willing to take it off their hands for the price of a 65 inch model. No sense letting those go to waste.
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It explains why they were being offered for under half of the original MSRP.
The G I got from HHGregg for the $2999 cost was brand spanking new. I've just passed the 200 hour mark and it seems to get better by the day. I find myself glued to the HDR channel on Youtube streaming videos on topics I would've never been interested in before.

One question. For Dolby Vision content, is there only 1 picture mode available for that (Dolby Vision Movie Dark) or are there others that can be accessed?
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Don't brag, I paid just shy of SRP back in May.

Apparently, some abused demo units were included in the sale, hopefully by accident.
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So after reading this owners thread I went and purchased a oled 65E6 and I also purchased a samsung ks9800. I have read a few people ripping samsung led but I will speak the truth. I kept the samsung ks9800 and returned the OLED. The Oled had slightly better blacks but the sammy blacks were black enough. After that the ks9800 was superior. The ks9800 blew away the oled whwn watching HDR content I could see so much more detail. Also I noticed the ks9800 up converted cable and all content much cleaner which would make sense since samsung is known to make that great 8500 4k player. Arc worked perfect and viewing angle was really good unless at 70 degrees who watches tv at that angle lol. I returned the Oled because arc did not work, hdr detail was clipped big time because of oled being to dim for hdr and the operating system to me is not refined. Consumer report scored the oled higher bit it gained those points from viewing angle points. Hate to say this OLED is good but overrated. Oh yeah and I didn't want to worry about burn in.
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So after reading this owners thread I went and purchased a oled 65E6 and I also purchased a samsung ks9800. I have read a few people ripping samsung led but I will speak the truth. I kept the samsung ks9800 and returned the OLED. The Oled had slightly better blacks but the sammy blacks were black enough. After that the ks9800 was superior. The ks9800 blew away the oled whwn watching HDR content I could see so much more detail. Also I noticed the ks9800 up converted cable and all content much cleaner which would make sense since samsung is known to make that great 8500 4k player. Arc worked perfect and viewing angle was really good unless at 70 degrees who watches tv at that angle lol. I returned the Oled because arc did not work, hdr detail was clipped big time because of oled being to dim for hdr and the operating system to me is not refined. Consumer report scored the oled higher bit it gained those points from viewing angle points. Hate to say this OLED is good but overrated. Oh yeah and I didn't want to worry about burn in.
Thanks for sharing, but unless black is truly black, then to me the so called blacks of FALD will never be good enough. I owned the Sony 940C for a month. Will never go back to LCD. IMO, dimming zones are just a gimmick and can not come close to the infinite contrast of OLED. 6000:1 of the best FALD tv's will never match the 10,000,000:1 of OLED. Sure there are issues with OLED, but not as many as LCD, IMO. Enjoy your Samsung. All that matters is that you are happy with it. In the end, that's what it's all about.
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Thanks for sharing, but unless black is truly black, then to me the so called blacks of FALD will never be good enough. I owned the Sony 940C for a month. Will never go back to LCD. IMO, dimming zones are just a gimmick and can not come close to the infinite contrast of OLED. 6000:1 of the best FALD tv's will never match the 10,000,000:1 of OLED. Sure there are issues with OLED, but not as many as LCD, IMO. Enjoy your Samsung. All that matters is that you are happy with it. In the end, that's what it's all about.
I agree. Once I went plasma and now OLED I could never go back. For the record, I watched Risen last night and the presentation and HDR both were pretty much spectacular. Oh well.

Like you said, if someone is happy with what they bought then they did the right thing. Cool story.

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I LOL'd at OLED is overrated.

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I LOL'd at OLED is overrated.
Right - the vast majority of the AV community/hobby has them ranked as the best overall display you can buy right now. Perfect? Nope, but they have fewer issues than any of the other display types and price-wise, inch for inch are as good or a better value than any other top-end TV. They get the important stuff right.

Its that simple. But, to each their own and if someone prefers an LCD, please go buy one. Then, go play in THAT forum. Thanks
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Sure, I'm all for people being happy with their purchases, but let's not get silly about things.

I still laugh at all the uniformity issues LCD owners bring up about OLED. I mean really... glass house....stones...bueller?
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Sure, I'm all for people being happy with their purchases, but let's not get silly about things.
I still laugh at all the uniformity issues LCD owners bring up about OLED. I mean really... glass house....stones...bueller?
You know what ladies and gentlemen? As someone who grew up in the early 60's with a 15 inch black and white TV with only a fuzzy antenna, we are all in a very good place right now

LCD probably has a better price/performance ratio right now, but for the absolute best picture right now overall I think OLED has the edge...
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So after reading this owners thread I went and purchased a oled 65E6 and I also purchased a samsung ks9800. I have read a few people ripping samsung led but I will speak the truth. I kept the samsung ks9800 and returned the OLED. The Oled had slightly better blacks but the sammy blacks were black enough. After that the ks9800 was superior. The ks9800 blew away the oled whwn watching HDR content I could see so much more detail. Also I noticed the ks9800 up converted cable and all content much cleaner which would make sense since samsung is known to make that great 8500 4k player. Arc worked perfect and viewing angle was really good unless at 70 degrees who watches tv at that angle lol. I returned the Oled because arc did not work, hdr detail was clipped big time because of oled being to dim for hdr and the operating system to me is not refined. Consumer report scored the oled higher bit it gained those points from viewing angle points. Hate to say this OLED is good but overrated. Oh yeah and I didn't want to worry about burn in.

Actually, Mike98, the test technicians for Consumer Reports did not say that OLED's superior viewing angle is the reason that they rate LG's OLED models above any LCD/LED backlit panels.

But in the September 2016 issue of Consumer Reports this question was specifically posed: "Is An OLED TV Worth The High Price?"

And Consumer Reports gave this unequivocal answer to that question: "Yes, if you want the best picture quality available and have the budget to indulge your fine taste."

BTW, the testers for CR typically evaluate about 200 different TV models each year, so those folks certainly seem to make more direct picture quality comparisons of different TV models than TV reviewers do at Sound & Vision, WIDESCREEN REVIEW, C-NET, or at about any other testing entity that any of us could name.

And because Consumer Reports accepts no advertising from TV manufacturers, (or from makers of any other kind of products) a giant corporation, like a Samsung, that does huge amounts of advertising in other venues, has no special advantage in the treatment that its products get in the pages of Consumer Reports. But, IMO, that cannot be said for how companies like Samsung and Sony are often treated in places where they do a lot of advertising.


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It doesn't seem ChadB does NYC (or maybe it is Brooklyn he doesn't do. shhh.. it isn't the 80s anymore and this area is fine now.)
That said, how are people using in the NYC area? Can someone suggest a calibrator NYC? This is for a G6? Clearly someone that has done OLED/HDR etc before. (i do 4k PC gaming too... so having worked with the limited options in HDR gaming mode is a plus.)

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It doesn't seem ChadB does NYC (or maybe it is Brooklyn he doesn't do. shhh.. it isn't the 80s anymore and this area is fine now.)
That said, can someone suggest a calibrator NYC? This is for a G6? Clearly someone that has done OLED/HDR etc before. (i do 4k PC gaming too... so having worked with the limited options in HDR gaming mode is a plus.)

Yes, i'm in Brooklyn, right across the water in Dumbo.

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It explains why they were being offered for under half of the original MSRP.
When I returned the set and was talking to the salesperson, he said they sold 50 of them from their Hebron, KY warehouse in 30 days. Just wish I could've gotten one out of the box. He said I got the last one in the region, just happened to be off the floor.

So a few lucky ppl got one heckuva deal.

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When I returned the set and was talking to the salesperson, he said they sold 50 of them from their Hebron, KY warehouse in 30 days. Just wish I could've gotten one out of the box. He said I got the last one in the region, just happened to be off the floor.

So a few lucky ppl got one heckuva deal.
I wonder how many in total were sold at that price, and if Best Buy/other retailers will follow suit in the coming months. BBY has five times as many stores so I'd have to imagine they're sitting on a pile of unsold inventory (unless they, say, give them back to LG for redistribution elsewhere.)
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The famous Chad B just left from calibrating my 77".

It was my first professional calibration and I have to say, the set looks amazing! Chad taught me quite a bit along the way and I only wish I had more time for him to get his hands on my other sets.

He calibrated Day, Night, HDR, HDR Game and 3D for me. DirecTV to Blu Ray looks phenomenal, but what really got me was how great the PS4 Pro playing Uncharted 4 looked. Simply amazing. Picture is definitely punchier.

He was also impressed with the 77" as compared to the 65" G's he has calibrated. He felt the uniformity was better and that the white balance was also better. That was interesting to hear and made me feel like a proud papa. lol.
I believe you were the person he left to do after doing my 65" E6.
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IMO, dimming zones are just a gimmick and can not come close to the infinite contrast of OLED.
LED local dimming has been repeatedly demonstrated to make images worse. 'Splotchy' was the term used over and over.

It's not possible to make a set with local dimming where the cluster of LEDs being dimmed is tightly focused and so is restricted to the (small) area you want darker - inevitably, there is an effect on and from non-dimmed adjacent areas by definition of the way light scatter works - Sony and others touting the method have not yet found a way to repeal the laws of light and optics.

Yes, some very expensive OLED sets can put out a retina searing 1200 nits (or more), but I find the Bright Room Calibrated and High HDR settings on my 65E more than bright enough. I like more of a balanced image where the highlights are not so bright that they draw my eye instantly in every scene.
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The story of my life - someone else has a BIGGER one.

Yeah, my neighbor has an 80" LED that I can see as I drive up my driveway. Can practically watch the game on it from my yard. Even though I know I have the better TV now, I still get a tinge of screen envy every time he has it on...

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I streamed The OA on Netflix tonight (E1) - first through my Panasonic UB900 (in HDR10), then through the E6 (in DV). Both had the same look: plenty of low contrast scenes with dark grays that intermittently showed the near-black uniformity problems of my E6. (The "zipper vignette" was visible in many dim - but not truly dark - scenes with uniform backgrounds.) The 4K blu-ray release of The Revenant was flawless on my E6, so I was initially hopeful that the uniformity issues might show up less with HDR content.

Recently, I purchased the 4K blu-ray of Arrival. It also had dim grays that drew out the problems, as did the dim underwater scenes in Deepwater Horizon (a release much praised as an excellent transfer). Of course, any HDR content created with aesthetic choices desiring low contrast/elevated blacks will emphasize the near-black anomalies, but my recent experiences have me wondering if HDR itself exacerbates these anomalies. The vignette on my set seems to become more evident on HDR sources.
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It's still in transit =(, but I already went out and bought this TV stand with TV mount.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/whalen-f...?skuId=8482006

Would the "mount & bracket" fit ok with 65 inch OLED?

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Yeah, my neighbor has an 80" LED that I can see as I drive up my driveway. Can practically watch the game on it from my yard. Even though I know I have the better TV now, I still get a tinge of screen envy every time he has it on...
I hear ya. When I venture into Best Buy and see the Sony 940D, I have to admit I do take an extra look just to marvel at the extra screen size. Still glad I went OLED but ten inches is a large size upgrade! Next time I'd love to try a 77" OLED.

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I streamed The OA on Netflix tonight (E1) - first through my Panasonic UB900 (in HDR10), then through the E6 (in DV). Both had the same look: plenty of low contrast scenes with dark grays that intermittently showed the near-black uniformity problems of my E6. (The "zipper vignette" was visible in many dim - but not truly dark - scenes with uniform backgrounds.) The 4K blu-ray release of The Revenant was flawless on my E6, so I was initially hopeful that the uniformity issues might show up less with HDR content.

Recently, I purchased the 4K blu-ray of Arrival. It also had dim grays that drew out the problems, as did the dim underwater scenes in Deepwater Horizon (a release much praised as an excellent transfer). Of course, any HDR content created with aesthetic choices desiring low contrast/elevated blacks will emphasize the near-black anomalies, but my recent experiences have me wondering if HDR itself exacerbates these anomalies. The vignette on my set seems to become more evident on HDR sources.
My E6 had mild right side vignetting when I first got it but it has subsided quite a bit since I've owned the panel a few months now. Others have also seen their vignetting reduce over time. I bought Arrival as well and have since traded it but that movie actually looked OK overall if somewhat dim. That's how it was shot. I do wish that we could have more control over the PQ controls with the HDR mode. I'd love to be able to apply my IRE luminance edits to that mode since it really helps with shadow detail and near black performance. Maybe in a firmware update?

How long have you had your set? Have you run many comp cycles? The vignetting may very well clean up after some use.

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It's still in transit =(, but I already went out and bought this TV stand with TV mount.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/whalen-f...?skuId=8482006

Would the "mount & bracket" fit ok with 65 inch OLED?
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He's had it for months...it may just be a lemon or below his expectations. I felt the same about my G6, but the closer it gets to 3k hours, the more rare its visible band becomes.
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He's had it for months...it may just be a lemon or below his expectations. I felt the same about my G6, but the closer it gets to 3k hours, the more rare its visible band becomes.
Got it - not everyone will end up satisfied with OLED, thats for sure.

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OLED is HDR by definition and without gimmick.
120, 600, whatever zero black zones, cant beat 8 million!

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