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That's what I am afraid of. This would be a family room set. Would end up used for kid movies and such. I think if I could just get a sub added, I'd be fine. Trying to avoid going full blown on this one for family simplicity (remote control complexity breeds contempt in my household).

Still wondering if anybody has tried a simple setup where optical goes to sub for added bass and how that sounds.

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Have not tried just a sub via optical. The problem with that is that you would have to manually adjust the volume of the sub, plus adjust the volume of the tv so they sound ok together. You cant control the volume of the sub with the tv remote, just the internal speakers.
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That's what I am afraid of. This would be a family room set. Would end up used for kid movies and such. I think if I could just get a sub added, I'd be fine. Trying to avoid going full blown on this one for family simplicity (remote control complexity breeds contempt in my household).

Still wondering if anybody has tried a simple setup where optical goes to sub for added bass and how that sounds.

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Haven't tried optical to sub but I have similar requirements with remotes. The magic remote + Arc to AVR is good enough that I shelved my Harmony remote for the family room.
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Personally, I am not impressed by HDR. 90% of the UHD blu ray movies, IMO, look worse than the standard blu ray version, simply because they are either too dark, or have elevated blacks. However, what does impress me is the WCG that UHD discs provide. I have to OPPO 203 and it strips the HDR off of the UHD disc but maintains the WCG in the form of sdr2020. Once OPPO has that perfected, I will strip HDR off when viewing and get the best of both worlds. 4K with WCG minus HDR. Perhaps DV HDR will be better. We will find out soon. But to me, HDR10 is a fail.
I felt this way with the EF9500, but not the calibrated E6.
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I felt this way with the EF9500, but not the calibrated E6.
Unfortunately, no one in my area knows how to calibrate HDR10, other than BB. I'm not going to waste $200 for them to spend 45 minutes on my tv. DV HDR, uncalibrated is much better than HDR10 uncalibrated. Heck, VUDU DV HDR streaming looks better than UHD discs on my E6.
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Have not tried just a sub via optical. The problem with that is that you would have to manually adjust the volume of the sub, plus adjust the volume of the tv so they sound ok together. You cant control the volume of the sub with the tv remote, just the internal speakers.
Even if I use HDMI ARC to get the audio to an AVR and then Sub, I'm still not able to adjust volume with the TV remote?
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the remote fix it ez. The Logitech harmony remotes are great and super ez to setup. (yes a little pricey, but IMO worth it.)
If we get one with a hub (which i'd suggest) you don't need to worry about line of site. The remote talks to the hub and the hub (with also has IR blasters) talks to the devices. If looking to get one, it'd suggest one with the LCD screen, unless you really only have a few "actions" (like watch TV or bluray)
programmable remotes have gotten really easy/fast to setup.

anyone remember the pronto? god damn that took a long time to setup. each button, placements, icon, macros, IR codes.. ugh
I have like three Harmony remotes and have used them for years along with the more hardcore Universal Remotes. I'm with you. Easy as pie. But I'm serving young children, my wife, periodically my mother and mother-in-law, babysitters/nanny and others. When a sound bar doesn't turn on and I'm out of town, I get a phone call. This room is all about simplify, simplify, simplify.
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Haven't tried optical to sub but I have similar requirements with remotes. The magic remote + Arc to AVR is good enough that I shelved my Harmony remote for the family room.
Glad to find I'm not the only one. :-)

So are you sending audio to the panel's speaker and over ARC or are those 1 or the others?
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Trying to get standard cable signal through composite (via provided adaptor) instead of the RF cable. The only 4k or HDR source I'm using is PS4 Pro or Xbox One S. I've been told that the composite would provide a 'cleaner' signal, even if only marginally. I can't get any video, only audio. I've tried 2 different cable boxes and tried both going directly in to the TV (55 E6) using the adaptor and in to my receiver (Yamaha RX-V481). In all cases all I can get is audio. Am I missing something?


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I had a similar problem hooking up my vcr to the composite input. Turns out my cable (or the internal wiring in the TV but doubtful) is wired incorrectly. I have to connect the video out from the vcr to the RED (audio) plug of the LG cable instead of the yellow one. I've been using it this way for several months now with no ill effects noticed. YMMV.
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Glad to find I'm not the only one. :-)

So are you sending audio to the panel's speaker and over ARC or are those 1 or the others?
Similar here. ARC/CEC from HDMI 2 to AVR lets me do everything I need from the magic remote. turning the TV on/off turns the AVR (Sony) on/off too. I imagine a sound bar/sub would be similar.

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I have like three Harmony remotes and have used them for years along with the more hardcore Universal Remotes. I'm with you. Easy as pie. But I'm serving young children, my wife, periodically my mother and mother-in-law, babysitters/nanny and others. When a sound bar doesn't turn on and I'm out of town, I get a phone call. This room is all about simplify, simplify, simplify.

haha.. i feel your pain. for me the Logitech was the fix. For both my mom and dad. I bought each a xbox one (for ez steaming apps) and a harmony. I used to get sooooo many calls.. "cable isn't working" "Netflix isn't working" "screen is black"

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Similar here. ARC/CEC from HDMI 2 to AVR lets me do everything I need from the magic remote. turning the TV on/off turns the AVR (Sony) on/off too. I imagine a sound bar/sub would be similar.
Certainly expect so. But, to be clear, you disable the TV speaker. You aren't trying to operate the TV speaker AND the AVR with the same volume up/down command on the Magic Remote, you're just letting the LG pass that command on to the AVR which owns your audio.
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Certainly expect so. But, to be clear, you disable the TV speaker. You aren't trying to operate the TV speaker AND the AVR with the same volume up/down command on the Magic Remote, you're just letting the LG pass that command on to the AVR which owns your audio.
Correct :-) My Sony TV's have a jack that can be used either for earphones or a sub. Sounds like what you're looking for on the OLEDs. But, so far, I've had no problems with my kids working the TV/AVR using the magic remote; no need for a Harmony which we also have sitting in a drawer. The TV's speakers are a complete waste in my case, though in the big scheme of things they just make the TV look a little heavier on the wall, rather than being "all picture on glass".

You can always start with the TV speakers and see how you like it; they do sound better / deeper than typical down-firing speakers found on thin TV's. If they aren't enough, then add a sound bar with sub. You can even get an LG soundbar with Simplink if you're worried about CEC compatibility.

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Watched Dr Strange tonight, get ready for black levels on both sides of the fence. I pretty much saw exactly what High Def Digest noted in their review.
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Watched Dr Strange tonight, get ready for black levels on both sides of the fence. I pretty much saw exactly what High Def Digest noted in their review.
Guess I will wait for the blu ray version to come down in price in 6 months. Should be able to get it used on Amazon for $5 to $10, or rent it from Vudu with DV.
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It's 3D or bust on that one fer me.
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So far nonexistent on mine, and my plasma would have had it by now. The 3D is mindblowing though. My wife just asked me last night what we are going to do after this tv dies because she doesn't want to lose out on our 3D movie night. She never said things like that when my plasma was still running.
How much money are they saving by omitting 3D option? I hope they get hit hard in 2017 models sales so they will have to rethink this decision, I'm glad I just bought the 65E6, It should last me few years until either they stop making 3D movies so no need to a 3D TV or some manufacturer comes up with an OLED 3D model if 3D movies still being produced.
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Certainly expect so. But, to be clear, you disable the TV speaker. You aren't trying to operate the TV speaker AND the AVR with the same volume up/down command on the Magic Remote, you're just letting the LG pass that command on to the AVR which owns your audio.
Right.

You can output to both internal speakers and arc at the same time, if that helps somehow with trying to configure your sub.

Think @Magellan55 has the right idea though. Soundbar/sub combos can be had for cheap if you just need a little boost and I've found ARC/CEC to be pretty seamless in my setup.

Family has been using the LG magic remote for a month with no issues yet. I'm the only one who breaks out the AVR remote to tweak settings. Usually to audible hisses.
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Guess I will wait for the blu ray version to come down in price in 6 months. Should be able to get it used on Amazon for $5 to $10, or rent it from Vudu with DV.
I always read the High Def Digest and Blu-ray dot com reviews for PQ and AQ, and what I saw was in the source so it is what it is. Can't defeat how a movie was shot.

With the spell casting, and the final battle in another dimension if you will, the inky blacks and wild colors would have made a great HDR presentation.

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How much money are they saving by omitting 3D option? I hope they get hit hard in 2017 models sales so they will have to rethink this decision, I'm glad I just bought the 65E6, It should last me few years until either they stop making 3D movies so no need to a 3D TV or some manufacturer comes up with an OLED 3D model if 3D movies still being produced.
I'm constantly surprised when I hear about people that enjoy 3D. Among all my friends and co-workers, I only know of 1 person that enjoys 3D. So in my circle, my small statistical sample says to me that 99% of people actively dislike 3D.

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With many of you having been owners for upwards of a year now, what is the consensus on sound quality out of the speaker on the E6? Tinny? Enough mid-range and bass coverage to not get frustrated?

Additionally, has anybody used the TV speaker+optical and sending the optical signal to an amplifier which is only powering a sub or directly to a powered sub?

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Occasionally my wife will use our E6 with just the Directv receiver and use the built in TV speakers. I think they sound excellent for a TV system, not "tinny" at all.
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How much money are they saving by omitting 3D option?
That is the question, I bet 20 bucks per set since the passive glasses or so cheap. Now that may be more with warranty type issues and the 3D not doing what it should in whatever way. Add that up by all the TV's they sell and that is a big stack of $20's.
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Similar here. ARC/CEC from HDMI 2 to AVR lets me do everything I need from the magic remote. turning the TV on/off turns the AVR (Sony) on/off too. I imagine a sound bar/sub would be similar.
I agree
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After three days with my third E6P panel, I have no dead pixels or sub pixels. I do have a spot that appears like two pixels next to each other that appear brighter than those around them. Appears like a white spot almost. It does go to black, so it's not stuck. And I think I saw it on the second panel and it went away. Any thoughts on what causes this. Any reason to be concerned with this panel?
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I had a similar problem hooking up my vcr to the composite input. Turns out my cable (or the internal wiring in the TV but doubtful) is wired incorrectly. I have to connect the video out from the vcr to the RED (audio) plug of the LG cable instead of the yellow one. I've been using it this way for several months now with no ill effects noticed. YMMV.
Worth a shot. Thanks.
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I'm constantly surprised when I hear about people that enjoy 3D. Among all my friends and co-workers, I only know of 1 person that enjoys 3D. So in my circle, my small statistical sample says to me that 99% of people actively dislike 3D.


This is true here too. The funny thing is when those same people come over and see it at my house they usually say things like, " I want your TV!". And even stranger is when I invite them over for dinner and movie, in 3D, they come back. And this was on my old plasma...
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I'm constantly surprised when I hear about people that enjoy 3D. Among all my friends and co-workers, I only know of 1 person that enjoys 3D. So in my circle, my small statistical sample says to me that 99% of people actively dislike 3D.
They haven't seen it on an E or G series OLED.
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They haven't seen it on an E or G series OLED.
I agree - I was sort of "meh" about 3D but after watching it on my E6 Im a convert.

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I agree I watched Dr Strange in 3D on Monday on my G6 and it was amazing. My mom even liked it and she usually gets headaches from 3D


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to everyone using lg oled g6p with oppo 203: are you finding that setting oppo to source direct is the way to go for everything? is the processing better in the lg oled g6p than the oppo 203?
I set the OPPO to custom, 4:2:2, 12 bits.
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