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Question 2015 OLED like vignetting/banding on my E6

I had an EG9100 earlier which I returned due to exactly the same issue. I was under the impression that these issues have been eliminated at least from the E series for 2016 but I guess not. Mine is a 701 build. First two pictures are of test patterns and the last is from the first scene from "Arrival" Blu ray. LG technician already came in morning when the issue isn't very apparent and LG says they need there tech to see the issue for repair requests. Thoughts on how to proceed with this?
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I had an EG9100 earlier which I returned due to exactly the same issue. I was under the impression that these issues have been eliminated at least from the E series for 2016 but I guess not. Mine is a 701 build. First two pictures are of test patterns and the last is from the first scene from "Arrival" Blu ray. LG technician already came in morning when the issue isn't very apparent and LG says they need there tech to see the issue for repair requests. Thoughts on how to proceed with this?
Over on AVForums, in Europe, just about everyone has issues with that movie on the 2016 OLED's. It's the ultimate stress test for banding, and most will see it to some degree, unless you crush a bit. Watch that movie on a 9500 OLED, and will look drastically worse. I doubt you will find one that will be much better.

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Guess I am in good shape then. I noticed the elevated blacks and it would have prob been a nightmare on my 9500, but the E6 and Sony X800 handled that movie well and it looked great.

I just watched this weekend expecting the worst.
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I'm leaning this way too. But the whole exchange process has me worried that I'll end up with a worse TV with inventories dwindling. I may head over to best buy later and if they still have a few in stock, initiate an exchange.

Overall the dead pixels aren't noticeable during normal use, but there are two dead blue ones right next to each other that are visible from 8 feet away on the slides. Those two annoy me.
I don't use slides at all to look, for dead pixels. But I just went through to process of trying to get one without them. It's beating a dead horse. I had one dead on white near the top of the first panel that drove me crazy. I exchanged it and ended up with one that got worse over the first few day with eight acting up near the top of the screen. I went through yet another exchange that required me to plop down the money again to do a warehouse pickup since they aren't in stock any where. Then I had to wait for a credit from Magnolia. It was stressful and time consuming and required filling out a negative survey from Best Buy to get my credit moving back to my bank account. The tv I have now still has a least one spot with a funky pixel or two mostly on dark blue screens near the bottom and very hard to see. They are less noticeable than the other panels I dealt with I guess. There could be more bad pixels, but again I'm not going to use slides to try and find them. Just good old fashioned watch the damned thing like a normal person moving foreward. In hindsight though, I would have kept the first set to avoid the hassles. If you can't see it in normal use, are you really interested in rolling the dice again and getting one that's worse with less possible replacements out there? My experience is if you spend your time looking for flaws, you WILL find them no matter how many times you try to exchange it. The three dead on white would be annoying if its at the top of the screen, as the image is brighter there the most of the time. If they are near the bottom they may not pop up as much in normal use.

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Over on AVForums, in Europe, just about everyone has issues with that movie on the 2016 OLED's. It's the ultimate stress test for banding, and most will see it to some degree, unless you crush a bit. Watch that movie on a 9500 OLED, and will look drastically worse. I doubt you will find one that will be much better.
Its not just that movie but a lot of real content with grey overtones has this issue and its very distracting.
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Its not just that movie but a lot of real content with grey overtones has this issue and its very distracting.
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Haven't checked but around 250.
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Haven't checked but around 250.
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Yes. Around 4-5 times since I got it a month ago. Interestingly, it seems the banding/vignetting has worsened since I got it.
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I'm confused on the firmware for the E6P. I have occasional signal errors with my PS4 Pro. The tv lists the firmware as 4/30/15. I know there is two newer updates even though my tv says it's up to date. One of the updates supposedly added HDR gaming. My tv does HDR gaming, but lists the earlier firmware. I'm completely confused by this. Just trying to eliminate the sporadic signal error that requires me to restart PS4 or replug the HDMI cord.
I have this same issue with by B6. The HDR game mode firmware was released on January 5th yet when I try to update it via my TV it says no updates were found. My TV is connected via RJ-45 cable to the internet and I am able to use apps like Vudu (in 4K) so I know my connection is fine. I also tried updating the firmware via USB and while the TV recognizes that I have plugged in a USB drive, it does not run the update. This is despite having followed the instructions from LG and only the firmware update file on the drive. I called LG support multiple times about this but they have been of no help in resolving this issue.
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I don't use slides at all to look, for dead pixels...If you can't see it in normal use, are you really interested in rolling the dice again and getting one that's worse with less possible replacements out there? My experience is if you spend your time looking for flaws, you WILL find them no matter how many times you try to exchange it.
All large screen sets have flaws, it's a matter of degrees. I spend much of my work day evaluating images, so I'm pretty much an obsessed flaw finder. I've had my 65E6 since November, and although I have downloaded all the slides and put them on a USB stick, I have not looked at them once.

If I saw a problem that appeared consistently in content I was watching, that would be a different story. But I also understand the idea that a flaw, however subtle, once seen, cannot be unseen.
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Yes. Around 4-5 times since I got it a month ago. Interestingly, it seems the banding/vignetting has worsened since I got it.
I just had my 606 panel replaced with a 701 due to the yellow discoloration on the right side issue.

The new 701 panel is essentially flawless with no vignetting; no banding and excellent uniformity color wise. It looks nothing like yours which I'd consider defective.

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I also tried updating the firmware via USB and while the TV recognizes that I have plugged in a USB drive, it does not run the update. This is despite having followed the instructions from LG and only the firmware update file on the drive. I called LG support multiple times about this but they have been of no help in resolving this issue.
If I remember correctly, the USB drive has to be formatted a certain way, (FAT32? NTFS? Don't remember.)

The file you download needs to be unzipped, and the new firmware file has to go into a folder you created on the USB drive called LG_DTV.

The downloaded zip file is about 900 megabytes, and the extracted file for the update is the same size, more or less.

With the TV on, insert the USB stick, which should be recognized. Select "Stay". If everything was done correctly, you should then have the option to "Install" or "Cancel".
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I just had my 606 panel replaced with a 701 due to the yellow discoloration on the right side issue.

The new 701 panel is essentially flawless with no vignetting; no banding and excellent uniformity color wise. It looks nothing like yours which I'd consider defective.

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Let's see some pictures of this 701, please. I recently had my 609 set replaced with a 610 and was very upset they didn't give me a 70X model.
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If I remember correctly, the USB drive has to be formatted a certain way, (FAT32? NTFS? Don't remember.)

The file you download needs to be unzipped, and the new firmware file has to go into a folder you created on the USB drive called LG_DTV.

The downloaded zip file is about 900 megabytes, and the extracted file for the update is the same size, more or less.

With the TV on, insert the USB stick, which should be recognized. Select "Stay". If everything was done correctly, you should then have the option to "Install" or "Cancel".
OK, so I just updated to 4.30.95, and it went pretty much as I stated, above. The "install" prompt was under the media inserted prompt, but I could reach it with the remote.

The USB stick was USB3, inserted into the USB3 slot on the LG, and formatted NTFS.

Once I clicked "Install", the upgrade took about 2 minutes before the reboot, then another 90 seconds or so after the reboot, then the picture reappeared and all was well.
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Let's see some pictures of this 701, please. I recently had my 609 set replaced with a 610 and was very upset they didn't give me a 70X model.
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I have this same issue with by B6. The HDR game mode firmware was released on January 5th yet when I try to update it via my TV it says no updates were found. My TV is connected via RJ-45 cable to the internet and I am able to use apps like Vudu (in 4K) so I know my connection is fine. I also tried updating the firmware via USB and while the TV recognizes that I have plugged in a USB drive, it does not run the update. This is despite having followed the instructions from LG and only the firmware update file on the drive. I called LG support multiple times about this but they have been of no help in resolving this issue.
I had no luck with the 4.30.95 update until I took Dayrl L's advice on an another forum. He said to try a different browser. So I changed from Firefox to the Edge browser and I also downloaded a free zip program called "Open Zip" from the Microsoft store. The TV recognized it immediately as an update file and installed it with no problem. Glad that's over. What a pain and a big waste of time for a stupid update!

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Yes. Around 4-5 times since I got it a month ago. Interestingly, it seems the banding/vignetting has worsened since I got it.
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Have you run a manual comp cycle?
That doesn't really help in my experience. Only time seems to help. Still waiting to find an OLED without similar banding, though the 65" G6 is the smoothest I've seen after 2700 hours.
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That doesn't really help in my experience. Only time seems to help. Still waiting to find an OLED without similar banding, though the 65" G6 is the smoothest I've seen after 2700 hours.
It was just a thought , seems he has a bad panel.




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I'm not so sure, I think it's more common than realized. I'll get some slide shots of my Korean-assembled 77" here for more proof once it hits 200 hours.
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Your set looks like most of them I would not worry about it. I saw that on this movie as well and I've had my e6 for 6 months and never noticed it that bad before.... not even close.
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Did you watch the uhd version? I saw the regular blu ray with elevated blacks then watched the uhd version a week later. The uhd version looks much better no more elevated blacks.
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I'm not so sure, I think it's more common than realized. I'll get some slide shots of my Korean-assembled 77" here for more proof once it hits 200 hours.

You have a 77" ? How did I miss that lol



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Here's the Dropbox link to an mp4 file that can be used to test for ghosting on the LG C6 (or just about any LG LCD or OLED 3D TV). It's a 2 minute video that you can load onto a USB thumb drive. Plug the USB stick into a port on the TV, select the input and play the file. Turn on 3D with the remote and select side by side mode. With the 3D glasses on, and your right eye closed, sit perpendicular to vertical screen center and look for uneven blotches in the gray. Those are the areas that will ghost on the TV. If you see a uniform gray screen, congratulations. You'll enjoy breathtakingly beautiful 3D video on your LG OLED!
Thanks for this. I've had my E6 since November, and with all the talk here of 3D, I finally got a few 3D disks and opened the plastic sleeves on the LG glasses to see what the fuss was about.

The file I downloaded from you, when playing back, has an almost perfectly uniform screen except for a 6"x6" area in the very lower right hand corner. Certainly nothing worth complaining about.

I've watched pieces of several 3D disks now, and I have to say, for sheer number of edge violations in the first ten minutes (not to mention the distraction of the endless camera flares which don't do well at all in 3D), Star Trek Into Darkness is the clear front runner by a country mile. Wow. My eyes were weary and I could feel a small headache starting at about the 10 minute point.

This is my first time viewing 3D at home, but I'm not exactly a 3D virgin - I was quite heavily involved with 3D in its heyday a few years back, worked on a couple of large 3D features and concerts, and taught 3D concepts and shooting at several venues around the country for Panasonic.
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You have a 77" ? How did I miss that lol
Mentioned it in the 2017 thread kind of as an aside. Had the blessing of a generous family member trying to bestow me with a happy birthday (ok, I'm paying for a portion of it). Arrived a week ago today.
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Mentioned it in the 2017 thread kind of as an aside. Had the blessing of a generous family member trying to bestow me with a happy birthday (ok, I'm paying for a portion of it). Arrived a week ago today.

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Mentioned it in the 2017 thread kind of as an aside. Had the blessing of a generous family member trying to bestow me with a happy birthday (ok, I'm paying for a portion of it). Arrived a week ago today.
Wow. Outstanding. That's the set I wanted, but without a generous family member, I could not justify the large $ difference between the 65" and the 77". Coming from a 70" set previously, I would have loved to go up in size instead of down .
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