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Is 4k hdr typically 24p?
Depends on the device.

Roku is 60hz, Panny player is 60hz, Sony X800 is 24hz. I think the internal LG apps are 60hz.

I agree with what the poster said about TM settings, and you have to weigh it out for yourself. For me, DB 10 is always in use on 60hz. I could live with TM off RC on for 24hz if I had to, but I see a bit more double imaging in movement than I like so I use DB all the time.

DJ, even at 1 will artifact, but how much it bothers you is up to you.

As far as the apps go, I have setup Amazon and Netflix on my E6, and ran an optical cable from the E6 to my preamp for Dolby Digital. After messing with it some, I think I am just going to use the internal apps vs firing up the blu player, plus Im really liking Dolby Vision Netflix so far, and it allows me to get HDR10 on Amazon.

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Both look real nice. Better? hrmm.. well the c7 does look better the ef9500 that it replaced. My wife think the c7 looks better than the g6, but it is only set to the stock isf dark. That is more bright than what the g6 is. So is it better or just brighter?
D-nice is coming this week.. after that we'll see if it is. It IS better for gaming input lag. 32ms for the G6 and 21ms for the C7. (I have a lag tester.) But i'm still going to play on g6 it is bigger and has all the only sexy connected to it.

that said, the b6s are so cheap now.. i think that is what most people should be looking at. newegg has a weekend sale for the 65" for like $2400-ish.
I think one thing that is making the C7 look a little brighter due to the fact that the screen is blacker.

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I think one thing that is making the C7 look a little brighter due to the fact that the screen is blacker.
Probably also due to the fact that ABL isn't as aggressive on the 2017 models compared to the 2016 models. Plus near 1000 peak nits on the C7 vs 650-700 nits on the 2016 models.

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USB Format

Has anyone got a USB drive to work on the E6. I have an mp4 file and it does not work. How did you format the USB drive? I have a MAC.
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Have an 65e6p, but how do I get detailed information such as refresh rate, color bitdepth, etc... No info button on the remote and when I double click on the screen then click HDMI 1, the info is pretty basic.

Also, if there's a special command control option that does what I want, I am fine with sending tcp commands, pronto hex ir codes, etc ...

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Has anyone got a USB drive to work on the E6. I have an mp4 file and it does not work. How did you format the USB drive? I have a MAC.
Maybe put a jpeg on the drive to verify its not the formatting?

Depends on the codec also. See link below, I don't know anything about the software they are recommending, so your choice to try it.

https://www.easefab.com/topic-mp4/co...-smart-tv.html

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Have an 65e6p, but how do I get detailed information such as refresh rate, color bitdepth, etc... No info button on the remote and when I double click on the screen then click HDMI 1, the info is pretty basic.

Also, if there's a special command control option that does what I want, I am fine with sending tcp commands, pronto hex ir codes, etc ...
Take the magic remote and place the cursor in the very upper left hand corner of the screen. Click the center button for info. I believe if you hold it down you'll get more info. I use a harmony exclusively but I remember this from when I first got the set. Hope that helps.

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First of all make sure you are using state of the art hdmi cables. I had new Monoprice hdmi cables that were giving me problems. When I purchased the Blue Jeans certified hdmi cables some issues went away. So start there.

As far as Ultra Colour: my old Directv HR24 and an old Toshiba HDDVD player will not produce any audio if sent to an input on my E6 that has Ultra Colour enabled.

So this is what I've done: I have two hdmi outputs on my Marantz 8802a. The second, non-ARC output goes to hdmi input 1 on the E6. I have my Logitech remote programmed so that my HR24 and the HDDVD player enable HDMI input 1 on the E6, and I always make sure that Ultra Colour is turned off on that HDMI input. All other outputs from the 8802a such as my UHD BR player and my Roku Ultra are fed into the HDMI input 2 on the E6 via the ARC HDMI output on the 8802a. Input 2 on the E6 has Ultra Colour turned on.

The above works for me. Another way you can work around these issues is to directly hook your HDMI outputs from your devices into the various inputs on your G6, turning on/off the Ultra Colour to those specific HDMI inputs as necessary. You can then use the Optical out on the G6 to feed the audio back to your AVP.

Hope the above wasn't too confusing.

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Hi, thanks for the help. All the cables have been tested to work fine with 4K HDR content so it's an issue with the electronics 'talking' to each other. It appears to be a G6 related issue as I've tested this with other TV's and don't have the issue.
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Has anyone got a USB drive to work on the E6. I have an mp4 file and it does not work. How did you format the USB drive? I have a MAC.
I've had 5 LG oleds and never had a problem with the USB. They are the best way to show of the sexy demo videos.
Is it not seeing the USB or can't open the mp4? (mp4 is just a container it can hold a lot of different things. Maybe what is in there the TV can't decode.)

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Sorry, this is my first message - but I cannot contribute, but have an urgent question. I tried to search for this problem, but did not found something. Maybe used wrong search phrases.


I got my new LG OLED 65E6 (V version for Europe) 5 days ago. The image is stunning as expected (come from a Kuro KRP-500A) and the panel has only little near black banding and right vignetting - and a ghost free perfect 3D. I really would like to hold that panel, although it's slightly bend, maybe 3-4mm over the full TV width.

But, yesterday I had a first closer look behind the TV. I didn't check when setting up, so I don't know, if this was from the beginning:

On the right side of the TV the plastic box lifted by 3-4mm. The gap narrows for the first third of the TV width, then it looks closed as intended till the full left side of the TV.
Looking inside the gap one can see a metallic plate, it's a heat protection or the main board? I don't know. I think, this metallic plate has not or max 1mm liftet itself, so not as much as the gap of the plastic box.
Pressing the box with caution towards the panel doesn't let the box snap in somehow. It will move 1-2mm towards panel, and relax back when releasing.

Of course I could exchange the full TV, but because my panel is that flewless I am unsure. Next TV could be much worse with crosstalked 3D or heavy near black banding?

So my questions are, please:
  1. Did anybody suffer a similar issue? If so, did you solve it or changed the TV? Did they offer a compensation to you?
  2. Is this "just" a glue thing of the plastic box or would you think, the panel is bent or the metallic plate lifted?
  3. Would you expect, that the image will suffer later, eg. with more vignetting, color shifts, pixel drop ours or similar?

I a lot of assumptions, I know. But I am clueless at the moment and need some input to decide to change or let compensate.
Any hint is highly appreciated, thanks a lot. If I missed a post/thread about that issue I would be thankful for a small guidance.

Thank you a lot in advance.
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So my questions are, please:
Can't help you with your questions but I did have an opportunity, during a service call to change out the panel, to take some pictures. This might give you a little more understanding of what's going on inside.
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Thank you very much, @jhearn , that's very interesting.

My faulty side is the right TV side, so left in the images, where you took of the inner plate. It looks like as if the metal plate is only fully glued onto the panel - or are the screws, eg. on the left side somehow entering the panel? Would not know, how that would work.
And what are these black clips/wholes, please? Especially on the left side in the images, 3 at the upper border of the plate, one at the left side. Are these clips to put the plastic box on it?

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I've noticed on an all black screen on the left and right very edge is slightly lighter than perfect black. Is this normal? If so any suggestions?

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Strange that 100s of E6 owners never noticed that gap?
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Strange that 100s of E6 owners never noticed that gap?
I'm pretty sure that almost noone or none experience that gap. But it's obvious and it's a fault.

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Sorry, this is my first message - but I cannot contribute, but have an urgent question. I tried to search for this problem, but did not found something. Maybe used wrong search phrases.


I got my new LG OLED 65E6 (V version for Europe) 5 days ago. The image is stunning as expected (come from a Kuro KRP-500A) and the panel has only little near black banding and right vignetting - and a ghost free perfect 3D. I really would like to hold that panel, although it's slightly bend, maybe 3-4mm over the full TV width.

But, yesterday I had a first closer look behind the TV. I didn't check when setting up, so I don't know, if this was from the beginning:

On the right side of the TV the plastic box lifted by 3-4mm. The gap narrows for the first third of the TV width, then it looks closed as intended till the full left side of the TV.
Looking inside the gap one can see a metallic plate, it's a heat protection or the main board? I don't know. I think, this metallic plate has not or max 1mm liftet itself, so not as much as the gap of the plastic box.
Pressing the box with caution towards the panel doesn't let the box snap in somehow. It will move 1-2mm towards panel, and relax back when releasing.

Of course I could exchange the full TV, but because my panel is that flewless I am unsure. Next TV could be much worse with crosstalked 3D or heavy near black banding?

So my questions are, please:
  1. Did anybody suffer a similar issue? If so, did you solve it or changed the TV? Did they offer a compensation to you?
  2. Is this "just" a glue thing of the plastic box or would you think, the panel is bent or the metallic plate lifted?
  3. Would you expect, that the image will suffer later, eg. with more vignetting, color shifts, pixel drop ours or similar?

I a lot of assumptions, I know. But I am clueless at the moment and need some input to decide to change or let compensate.
Any hint is highly appreciated, thanks a lot. If I missed a post/thread about that issue I would be thankful for a small guidance.

Thank you a lot in advance.
No gap on my E6. Nice and flush. I sure wouldnt worry about if the tv is fine. Dust is getting through the vents anyway, so if there is a slight gap, it won't have any impact.

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I'm pretty sure that almost noone or none experience that gap. But it's obvious and it's a fault.
I wouldn't be concerned with a gap on the plastic back cover. It's screwed into place on the bottom and has plastic tabs along the sides and top where it clips into the back of the panel. I would bet this gap changes when the set is on and/or warm, the same way the panel 'bows' slightly when being used.
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For those of you that own the E6...

Are the LG and OLED logos on the very bottom of the glass etched into the glass or are they "painted", etc. on?

I am trying to figure out it they can be removed, safely, from the glass - the new E7 doesn't have them and it looks much better without them.

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It seems they are behind the glas, probably printed on the backside of the glas.

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For those of you that own the E6...

Are the LG and OLED logos on the very bottom of the glass etched into the glass or are they "painted", etc. on?

I am trying to figure out it they can be removed, safely, from the glass - the new E7 doesn't have them and it looks much better without them.

Definitely printed on the back side of the glass. The branding is pretty minimal for such a large TV, but if you find a way, maybe that also means I can get rid of the dust that's somehow accumulated back there
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Definitely printed on the back side of the glass. The branding is pretty minimal for such a large TV, but if you find a way, maybe that also means I can get rid of the dust that's somehow accumulated back there
LOL, well, if dust gets back there - there is definately a way!

Any ideas?

Qtip with Goof Off on it maybe?
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Take the magic remote and place the cursor in the very upper left hand corner of the screen. Click the center button for info. I believe if you hold it down you'll get more info. I use a harmony exclusively but I remember this from when I first got the set. Hope that helps.
Tried that, all I get is aspect ratio, resolution and sound (pcm). Holding down doesn't seem to have affect as soon as I let go the info goes away.

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LOL, well, if dust gets back there - there is definately a way!

Any ideas?

Qtip with Goof Off on it maybe?
With as much money as LG's spent on R&D for OLED, I bet their logos are hand-etched on every single panel and aren't going anywhere this side of a nuclear blast.
In all seriousness, the logo is probably silkscreened onto the glass and would be very hard to remove without scratching or marring the surrounding area. If the vignetting on mine gets worse and LG ok's a panel swap, I'll be your guinea pig.
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If the vignetting on mine gets worse and LG ok's a panel swap, I'll be your guinea pig.
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Hi all. I've had the 65E6 for about a week now. It is amazing. I have a Feb 2017 build. I was coming from a 2008 Sammy (Ln55A950). The picture of the OLED is incredible. It is so bright it's ridiculous. I need to turn it down frequently. I don't know what any brighter would do to my retinas - sear them? The black level is incredible too. I had no idea what people were talking about with HDR. Now I know what the big deal is about. It's so cool. I'm still experimenting with 3D, it's ok. Not life changing at all though. I would've been fine with the B6 but I wanted the better processor and 3D capability. I'm glad I went for the 2016's at half price vs going for 2017 - these things depreciate faster than cars!! I probably wouldn't know any difference since I waited 9 years to upgrade until my Samsung actually broke. I also got the 5 year warranty iElectrica was offering. It was more than the Squaretrade 4 year warranty, but then I thought if it broke in year 5 and I didn't spring for the extra year I would feel awful, so I got it.

As for dislikes - the fixed sound bar is kinda lame but it's nothing compared to my 3" bezels all around on my old tv. I've noticed some slight vignetting in dark scenes but it's not consistent and doesn't stay around very long. Once in awhile I see the noise in very dark areas but again, it's very quick and goes away. The black crush is there like people have commented on (I have followed this thread for years until I was ready to buy), but it's not bad - it can be mitigated. At first the cable signal looked crappy but then I told my new Denon 4300 to upscale it to 4k 60hz and now it's looking good. That's the other negative - I waited so long I had to upgrade my whole system! TV, receiver and blu ray player! Went with the Oppo 203 for that since I also have SACDs that I will occasionally listen to.

Overall a fantastic TV! I am blown away every time I turn it on. Really just incredible, especially with HDR material on Amazon and Netflix. Glad I skipped on the Sammy F8500 plasmas and Panny VT and ZT's. I was considering those for a while but couldn't bring myself to it since I knew OLED was around the corner. Glad I skipped the first couple years of OLEDs too - my friend has a 2014 model - the 9300 I believe. It's good, but nothing compared to my E6.

Thanks everyone for your insights into these amazing TVs! It has really helped to know which one to buy and then to pair with right peripherals and settings to optimize it.
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I'm curious does plasma still beat the 2016 lg oleds in motion blur?

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^Yes, simply because the motion drawing can't recreate anymore than 600 lines of motion resolution. As to your earlier question about brightening on the edges near black, yes, that is normal and is a side effect of the vignette fix they employed last year to fix the edge darkening in 2015.
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^Yes, simply because the motion drawing can't recreate anymore than 600 lines of motion resolution. As to your earlier question about brightening on the edges near black, yes, that is normal and is a side effect of the vignette fix they employed last year to fix the edge darkening in 2015.
Ok so let me get this straight. Lol. Sorry I'm new to all this technology. On a all black screen the slightly lighter edges are normal? And plasma is better at motion than say the Lg c6 55?

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With as much money as LG's spent on R&D for OLED, I bet their logos are hand-etched on every single panel and aren't going anywhere this side of a nuclear blast.
In all seriousness, the logo is probably silkscreened onto the glass and would be very hard to remove without scratching or marring the surrounding area. If the vignetting on mine gets worse and LG ok's a panel swap, I'll be your guinea pig.
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Hi all. I've had the 65E6 for about a week now. It is amazing. I have a Feb 2017 build. I was coming from a 2008 Sammy (Ln55A950). The picture of the OLED is incredible. It is so bright it's ridiculous. I need to turn it down frequently. I don't know what any brighter would do to my retinas - sear them? The black level is incredible too. I had no idea what people were talking about with HDR. Now I know what the big deal is about. It's so cool. I'm still experimenting with 3D, it's ok. Not life changing at all though.
What 3D titles have you watched? They are not all created the same...
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Ok so let me get this straight. Lol. Sorry I'm new to all this technology. On a all black screen the slightly lighter edges are normal?
An all black screen should be 100% black all over. It's just above black where you might see some edge brightening, which is definitely typical to varying degrees on the 2016 models (and 2017 also apparently).
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And plasma is better at motion than say the Lg c6 55?
Better at raw motion resolution, yes, but plasma comes with its own motion anomalies (like phosphor trails where you might see colors trailing behind objects)
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