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Thanks - I may look into that. Ive never bought an extended warranty on a TV ever.... but for some reason Im really considering it for my E6. Am I scared? I dunno...???
Same here. Maybe I'm getting to be an old fogey but I see these fancy new-fangled OLED TVs as:
1. More complex than TVs I used to remember (thus subject to potentially more going wrong)
2. A relatively new technology and thus potentially not as longevity tested as we'd like

So I feel like there is some elevated risk compared to the days when I'd consider it a no-brainer to turn down the extra coverage. But to me it's not real clear how well any of these extended warranty companies pay out when something goes wrong - particularly in edge cases like, say, a few dead pixels or some subtle cloudiness appearing.

Since I discovered that I'm getting 1 extra year because I have Extended Warranty Protection from Chase, in the end it didn't seem worth it... but it's definitely something I wouldn't have even considered in the past that gave me pause today.

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Anyone have issues casting youtube from windows 10 laptops to E6?
For past 2-3 months its not been working, only works from Android phone.
Used to work fine but now Chrome only finds my bluray player connected to same network.
Which works fine so its just the Laptop to TV dont work. No cast devices found message!
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Same here. Maybe I'm getting to be an old fogey but I see these fancy new-fangled OLED TVs as:
1. More complex than TVs I used to remember (thus subject to potentially more going wrong)
2. A relatively new technology and thus potentially not as longevity tested as we'd like

So I feel like there is some elevated risk compared to the days when I'd consider it a no-brainer to turn down the extra coverage. But to me it's not real clear how well any of these extended warranty companies pay out when something goes wrong - particularly in edge cases like, say, a few dead pixels or some subtle cloudiness appearing.

Since I discovered that I'm getting 1 extra year because I have Extended Warranty Protection from Chase, in the end it didn't seem worth it... but it's definitely something I wouldn't have even considered in the past that gave me pause today.
Mack testimonials I've seen suggest they paid out the full price paid when the TV is deemed irreparable. Now as far as a few pixels dying? After owning 7 OLEDs, I've only known one during time of ownership to not have at least one fail. Beyond 10, you might have a reason to employ coverage. The 55EA9800 I have from early 2014 is still going strong at over 5k hours.
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Folks, several people were asking me about the new Dolby Vision calibration for the 2017 LGs and if it could be used on the 2016 LGs and after doing a set yesterday, the answer is no unless LG provides a software update for the 2016 sets. If there were an update, I can't see why the same process couldn't be used. Overall, I still think that the DV setting on the 2016 sets that I saw are "pretty good" because the skin tones look correct to me so it shouldn't be that far off out of the box. If you are interested in the process, here is a link to look at. -> https://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-di...l#post54125169

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Same here. Maybe I'm getting to be an old fogey but I see these fancy new-fangled OLED TVs as:
1. More complex than TVs I used to remember (thus subject to potentially more going wrong)
2. A relatively new technology and thus potentially not as longevity tested as we'd like

So I feel like there is some elevated risk compared to the days when I'd consider it a no-brainer to turn down the extra coverage. But to me it's not real clear how well any of these extended warranty companies pay out when something goes wrong - particularly in edge cases like, say, a few dead pixels or some subtle cloudiness appearing.

Since I discovered that I'm getting 1 extra year because I have Extended Warranty Protection from Chase, in the end it didn't seem worth it... but it's definitely something I wouldn't have even considered in the past that gave me pause today.
Agreed! It is newer tech and the longevity is basically untested. But, even a two year extended warranty doesn't help you 4-6 years or later down the road. Still seems to be a case where if you get through the first year unscathed then chances are probably high that you got a good one as they say. I hope. We think.

I still may do it. I didn't buy it with a CC that has extra protection....used some cash and my Best Buy card.

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Folks, several people were asking me about the new Dolby Vision calibration for the 2017 LGs and if it could be used on the 2016 LGs and after doing a set yesterday, the answer is no unless LG provides a software update for the 2016 sets. If there were an update, I can't see why the same process couldn't be used. Overall, I still think that the DV setting on the 2016 sets that I saw are "pretty good" because the skin tones look correct to me so it shouldn't be that far off out of the box. If you are interested in the process, here is a link to look at. -> https://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-di...l#post54125169
It would be a real shame if LG ignored their early adopters by *NOT* making this Dolby Vision Calibration workflow available for the 2016 panels.

We still have nothing definitive from them on this, right?

And I presume this new workflow replaces the old idea of manufacturers putting out Golden Reference Data for each Dolby Vision TV model, right?
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It would be a real shame if LG ignored their early adopters by *NOT* making this Dolby Vision Calibration workflow available for the 2016 panels.

We still have nothing definitive from them on this, right?

And I presume this new workflow replaces the old idea of manufacturers putting out Golden Reference Data for each Dolby Vision TV model, right?
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It would be a real shame if LG ignored their early adopters by *NOT* making this Dolby Vision Calibration workflow available for the 2016 panels.

We still have nothing definitive from them on this, right?

And I presume this new workflow replaces the old idea of manufacturers putting out Golden Reference Data for each Dolby Vision TV model, right?
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It would be a real shame if LG ignored their early adopters by *NOT* making this Dolby Vision Calibration workflow available for the 2016 panels.
I do not know if ignore is the right word, but odds are with very few 2016 being left out there, this probably will not happen.
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I do not know if ignore is the right word, but odds are with very few 2016 being left out there, this probably will not happen.
That's why I don't be we will get the so called promised HLG upgrade on the 2016 models either. LG has no motivation to provide additional support for the older models.

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I do not know if ignore is the right word, but odds are with very few 2016 being left out there, this probably will not happen.
Ignore is the right word, if they don't do it.

Dolby Vision is supposed to come with Golden Reference Data. Without that (and thus no way to calibrate), it is an incomplete implementation. The 2016 sets are supposed to have "Dolby Vision". Not kinda sorta Dolby Vision.

Now, I can understand if Dolby (and LG) decided the new workflow is a BETTER way to calibrate -- and thus no Golden Reference Data gets released because the new approach is better. And I can also understand if they roll it out first for their new, 2017 panels. But to leave the 2016 panel customers with NOTHING is going to reflect badly on both LG and Dolby.

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I think they problem with the GRF is that it was going to be a factory average, so they chose to move this way for calibration accuracy sake. @jrref can probably correct me there if I am wrong.

Makes more sense to cal each one with Calman, and load the changes into the Dolby mapping engine.

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It would be a real shame if LG ignored their early adopters by *NOT* making this Dolby Vision Calibration workflow available for the 2016 panels.

We still have nothing definitive from them on this, right?

And I presume this new workflow replaces the old idea of manufacturers putting out Golden Reference Data for each Dolby Vision TV model, right?
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I think they problem with the GRF is that it was going to be a factory average, so they chose to move this way for calibration accuracy sake. @jrref can probably correct me there if I am wrong.

Makes more sense to cal each one with Calman, and load the changes into the Dolby mapping engine.
That's right but it's a lot of work.

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Ignore is the right word, if they don't do it.
We can start with liability, some of these units are now out of warranty. LG releases a firmware update and the update is bogus, they bricks TV's, now they are responsible for all these said bricked TV's that are out of warranty. So in a way they are extending the warranties. Many things come into play here. Lets face it, it's not like LG is the only one to not release firmware update's on older products when many people feel they are needed.

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We can start with liability, some of these units are now out of warranty. LG releases a firmware update and the update is bogus, they bricks TV's, now they are responsible for all these said bricked TV's that are out of warranty. So in a way they are extending the warranties. Many things come into play here. Lets face it, it's not like LG is the only one to not release firmware update's on older products when many people feel they are needed.

Right/Wrong, it is what it is.....
That makes perfect sense why FW updates usually cease after the first year. They don't want to be responsible for bricking the tv's. They must have learned that from Vizio who brick some tv's a few years ago with a FW update after the 1 year warranty was up. They ended up having to replace the main boards in everyone of the tv's they bricked.

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And that is why I like keeping my main player up to date yearly when new models come out. Not sure how long app support holds up for display internal apps.

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We can start with liability, some of these units are now out of warranty. LG releases a firmware update and the update is bogus, they bricks TV's, now they are responsible for all these said bricked TV's that are out of warranty. So in a way they are extending the warranties. Many things come into play here. Lets face it, it's not like LG is the only one to not release firmware update's on older products when many people feel they are needed.

Right/Wrong, it is what it is.....
Well we can debate whether it is in their interest to get the same sad reputation as Samsung, but this is a case where a primary marketing feature of the display has been left, so far, crucially incomplete.

Seems to me they have to swallow the risk in a case like this.
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Well we can debate whether it is in their interest to get the same sad reputation as Samsung, but this is a case where a primary marketing feature of the display has been left, so far, crucially incomplete.

Seems to me they have to swallow the risk in a case like this.
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Especially if the DV elevated black problems is related to the tv via HDMI, and not the OPPO 203.

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Is there a way to check how many hours a panel has been used? Like a service menu, for example? Thanks.

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Is there a way to check how many hours a panel has been used? Like a service menu, for example? Thanks.
Settings, general, about this tv, tv info.

Mine is at 1034 hours BTW

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With the 203, if you play a DV disc, are you able to choose between HDR10 or DV, or turn DV off? Or is it forced like the Netflix app?

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So wait LG has decided to give 2016 Oled 's the HLG update that they promised at CES?

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...&id=1484051855

I am really starting to lose my patience with these companies and their open promises. It is no like these tv's are cheap. The box says Dolby VIsion on it not sort of kind of part of Dolby Vision. Lg needs to get their priorities straight and not given empty promises. HLG needs to given and Dolby Vision needs to completed.
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That makes perfect sense why FW updates usually cease after the first year. They don't want to be responsible for bricking the tv's. They must have learned that from Vizio who brick some tv's a few years ago with a FW update after the 1 year warranty was up. They ended up having to replace the main boards in everyone of the tv's they bricked.
My 55EA9800 (2013 model year) received an update last year (2016). I'm sure they weigh the risk/reward ratio here (and the fact that the 55EA9800 likely sold in the hundreds at best).
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I just got off the phone with LG customer support and was told that 2016 OLEDs are getting the HLG update and the LG Smart Team is working on an update so the 2016 olds will be able to have full capability of calibrating Dolby Vision.
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That would be great...I hope they weren't blowing smoke up your you know what. It *is* the right thing to do since these are the end of the line for OLED 3D in its current form anyway.
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Someone in the calibration or tech industry needs to point this out to LG engineering contacts.
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