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What are pro calibrators typically setting our displays in HDR10 Standard mode as far as the following are concerned:

Color (Default is 55)
Sharpness (Default is 10)
Dynamic Contrast (Default Off)

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What are pro calibrators typically setting our displays in HDR10 Standard mode as far as the following are concerned:

Color (Default is 55)
Sharpness (Default is 10)
Dynamic Contrast (Default Off)

Thanks ahead of time.
When I had mine calibrated the guy left HDR as it was except for some reason he turned Dynamic Contrast on Low which I have since turned off.
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^ Dynamic Contrast LOW is a setting needed for the 2017 panels.
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Sorry, should have said mine is a 2016 model.
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^ I assumed that, given the thread. What I meant is your guy may have mistakenly applied that bit of advice to your 2016 panel.
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I was stubborn and called Yamaha. Verified: they will not be updating any xx50-series product with DV support. Time to buy an HDMI cable.

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I wonder how much an update would cost a manufacturer? May not be that cost at all, just the liability of bricking units with a firm ware update could be a real concern as they would be responsible for the bricked units.
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I wonder how much an update would cost a manufacturer? May not be that cost at all, just the liability of bricking units with a firm ware update could be a real concern as they would be responsible for the bricked units.
Allowing DV through an AVR is not about dealing with or decoding the format, it's about allowing each full video frame to go through the device to the TV unmodified by things like onscreen graphics.

Manufacturers including LG send firmware updates all the time. Some are better at recovering from problems than others. What always amazes me is that a $75 computer motherboard has a fallback position and procedures for a failed BIOS firmware update, whereas the expensive components like $2,000 AVRs need to be shipped back if it happens. It would cost all of $5 in hardware and some code to include a proper recovery option, and I can't figure out if they're too cheap or too stupid to do it.
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^ I assumed that, given the thread. What I meant is your guy may have mistakenly applied that bit of advice to your 2016 panel.
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The guy put Dynamic Contrast on Low on every setting. I have turned it off on everything.
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Too blurry, brah.
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Too blurry, brah.
A bit potato for sure but it is nice to have a uniform panel, nonetheless.

I just finished rewiring the second room and putting in another UHD BD player and have been watching Westworld in Dolby Vision and I am loving it!

Warning: Potato cell phone shots too but I an really warming up to the E6!

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Just watched Jumanji tonight, and had guests over so I had to set up a seat for myself about 60 degrees off axis. Just loving this E6, as the pic was still sharp with plenty of depth and colors spot on. And they freaked when I turned the lights off and all they saw was picture with no top/bottom bar bleed :-)
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^^^it's a real treat not having to worry how far off axis you are when watching these!!!
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What do you guys use for hdr (HLG)? Watching the masters yesterday and it really wasn’t popping in hdr standard. Maybe it was just the bad weather?

Flipped to hdr bright and felt it was more hdr colorful. Maybe I should start with hdr bright but turn to w45 or so on white balance. Turn off all other enhancements?
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What do you guys use for hdr (HLG)? Watching the masters yesterday and it really wasn’t popping in hdr standard. Maybe it was just the bad weather?

Flipped to hdr bright and felt it was more hdr colorful. Maybe I should start with hdr bright but turn to w45 or so on white balance. Turn off all other enhancements?
Ive always used HDR Bright as a starting point for HDR content and am pleased overall. I turn any enhancements OFF. OLED Light at like 85 and Contrast at 92. Brightness at 52. Try that and see what you think.
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What do you guys use for hdr (HLG)? Watching the masters yesterday and it really wasn’t popping in hdr standard. Maybe it was just the bad weather?

Flipped to hdr bright and felt it was more hdr colorful. Maybe I should start with hdr bright but turn to w45 or so on white balance. Turn off all other enhancements?
Ive always used HDR Bright as a starting point for HDR content and am pleased overall. I turn any enhancements OFF. OLED Light at like 85 and Contrast at 92. Brightness at 52. Try that and see what you think.
What about color temp and gamut? By default is is in wide and 0 temp.

I think hdr is supposed to be normal and shift color to more natural white like w45?
0 is really cool blue.
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Guys a little bit of advice/help.. I have had my 77g6p since like October, and I have yet to ever see dolby vision. How the heck do I activate it ? I have a roku 4 ultra and an NVIDIA shield TV. Is there some setting I dont know about. What content would have it? I have seen HDR plenty of times, but never ever dolby vision.
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Don't know about those (I'm pretty sure Shield does not last I checked), try the Netflix app in the WebOS menu itself.
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What about color temp and gamut? By default is is in wide and 0 temp.

I think hdr is supposed to be normal and shift color to more natural white like w45?
0 is really cool blue.
I use Warm2 for color temp with the color setting set at G3. And yes - NORMAL is correct for HDR mode. LG screwed that labeling up. Use Normal, NOT wide.

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I use Warm2 for color temp with the color setting set at G3. And yes - NORMAL is correct for HDR mode. LG screwed that labeling up. Use Normal, NOT wide.
What I have noticed on my E6, is if I start with HDR bright and leave color gamut in normal, it looks correct. Switching it to wide over blows the color. Now heres the weird thing. If I leave it in wide, turn off tv, and turn off blu ray player and then turn them both back on and start the movie, the color looks correct in wide. It is as if it doesn't matter what the color gamut is set to initially, the tv will use the correct gamut when the movie is started. What messes it up is switching gamut while the movie is playing. So with it in wide, I then switched back to normal and the colors looked really muted.
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Guys a little bit of advice/help.. I have had my 77g6p since like October, and I have yet to ever see dolby vision. How the heck do I activate it ? I have a roku 4 ultra and an NVIDIA shield TV. Is there some setting I dont know about. What content would have it? I have seen HDR plenty of times, but never ever dolby vision.
Dolby Vision gets activated automagically when the set sees it. You don't have to do anything. It will announce itself for a few seconds in the upper right hand corner.

If you haven't seen it, it's because you haven't fed it any yet. The Roku doesn't support it. I don't know about the Shield.

If you subscribe to Netflix or Amazon Prime, use the LG's internal apps to load one, find a DV encoded show (like Mozart In The Jungle on Amazon, I think) and it will display in DV.

In order to see it otherwise, you have to have hardware feeding the LG that supports DV, and that hardware has to be showing a DV encoded program/movie.
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What I have noticed on my E6, is if I start with HDR bright and leave color gamut in normal, it looks correct. Switching it to wide over blows the color. Now heres the weird thing. If I leave it in wide, turn off tv, and turn off blu ray player and then turn them both back on and start the movie, the color looks correct in wide. It is as if it doesn't matter what the color gamut is set to initially, the tv will use the correct gamut when the movie is started. What messes it up is switching gamut while the movie is playing. So with it in wide, I then switched back to normal and the colors looked really muted.
Geesh - thats weird! I guess leaving it in Normal mode s the way to go though. Ive never had it look bad using Normal so I'll stick with that!

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Geesh - thats weird! I guess leaving it in Normal mode s the way to go though. Ive never had it look bad using Normal so I'll stick with that!
What works for me is leave it to whatever LG has the default gamut set at. With Standard, it is normal, with bright room it is wide. Flipping between bright room and standard, with the color set at it's default value, they will look the same. Never change the gamut while the movie is playing. it messes everything up.
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What about color temp and gamut? By default is is in wide and 0 temp.

I think hdr is supposed to be normal and shift color to more natural white like w45?
0 is really cool blue.
I use Warm2 for color temp with the color setting set at G3. And yes - NORMAL is correct for HDR mode. LG screwed that labeling up. Use Normal, NOT wide.
Hdr bright doesn’t have color temp i.e. warm2. It’s a scale of w50 to c50. Do you have it at zero? I went with w45 as that’s close to warm2.
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I noticed something the other day on my G6 while playing a film with a lot of dark scenes.
Whenever a scene is near black- I get a pure black "saw tooth" like pattern on the far right side of the screen.

Is this a case of non-uniformity?
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I noticed something the other day on my G6 while playing a film with a lot of dark scenes.
Whenever a scene is near black- I get a pure black "saw tooth" like pattern on the far right side of the screen.

Is this a case of non-uniformity?
Yes. How many hours on the G6? They tend to diminish after a couple of thousand hours, according to some of the posters here.
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Hdr bright doesn’t have color temp i.e. warm2. It’s a scale of w50 to c50. Do you have it at zero? I went with w45 as that’s close to warm2.
Yep - my bad. I do have it at zero. I was thnking of my other settings for non HDR where I do run it at Warm2 or Warm1. If W45 is pleasing you then by all means use it!

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