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I'm thinking about letting my 65E6P go... it's been sitting in my grandpa's basement in Southern IL since May and I just moved to Colorado and have no plans of trying to transport it. Went ahead and bought a 55B7 to hold me down for the time being but I could really use a 65 for the suze of my living room. Considering what they are going for on ebay I might just go that route if I can get retail back and buy another TV later evrn though I will miss 3D. What is the best route of going about shipping? I no longer have the original box. Can I just take it to the UPS Store and have them pack and ship it? How much do you think that would cost?
What’s the going rate for them?
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I'm thinking about letting my 65E6P go... it's been sitting in my grandpa's basement in Southern IL since May and I just moved to Colorado and have no plans of trying to transport it. Went ahead and bought a 55B7 to hold me down for the time being but I could really use a 65 for the suze of my living room. Considering what they are going for on ebay I might just go that route if I can get retail back and buy another TV later evrn though I will miss 3D. What is the best route of going about shipping? I no longer have the original box. Can I just take it to the UPS Store and have them pack and ship it? How much do you think that would cost?
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I concur with the other suggestions to try and sell locally. That’s what I ultimately did.

I had previously listed my 65e6p on fleabay, had it sold to an out of state buyer, but ended up cancelling the transaction when I realized that FedEx or UPS would probably not pay out on a claim (read all the fine print) if there was shipping damage (mutual agreement with the buyer). The likelihood of damage also seemed high.

I also looked into pallet shipping vie freight air ride. The cost to pick up, pack, and ship 1/3 of the way across the country was $400+.
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Question for those of you who have had your displays calibrated ...


What settings do you use for Dolby Vision? Not asking so much about specific numeric values (although you're welcome to share those) as much as whether you use the same settings as for your HDR10 calibration (or your SDR calibration or something else). When my E6 was calibrated last year, the calibrator (Chad B) didn't calibrate for Dolby Vision because he said that Golden Reference files weren't released at the time for any of the TVs except a Vizio model. He recommended that I always choose to watch in HDR10 when possible. However, when I watched my first Dolby Vision UHD the other day, I couldn't find any option to disable DV. I know some of the calibration controls for DV on the 2016 LG OLEDs are disabled, but the basics like OLED Light, Contrast, Color, etc. are still available. So does it make sense to just duplicate the HDR10 settings for DV where possible since DV uses HDR10 as a base layer? Or does DV not work like that?
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Question for those of you who have had your displays calibrated ...


What settings do you use for Dolby Vision? Not asking so much about specific numeric values (although you're welcome to share those) as much as whether you use the same settings as for your HDR10 calibration (or your SDR calibration or something else). When my E6 was calibrated last year, the calibrator (Chad B) didn't calibrate for Dolby Vision because he said that Golden Reference files weren't released at the time for any of the TVs except a Vizio model. He recommended that I always choose to watch in HDR10 when possible. However, when I watched my first Dolby Vision UHD the other day, I couldn't find any option to disable DV. I know some of the calibration controls for DV on the 2016 LG OLEDs are disabled, but the basics like OLED Light, Contrast, Color, etc. are still available. So does it make sense to just duplicate the HDR10 settings for DV where possible since DV uses HDR10 as a base layer? Or does DV not work like that?
I've been watching DV content on my E6 since the first DV movies were released on UHD. I had my screen calibrated over 2 years ago now and I haven't worried about the DV settings because the calibration couldn't do anything with them. I've left them at whatever the factory default settings are, and just watch DV. That seems to work fine for me. You've got the usual 3 mode options of bright/dark/vivid and I tend to use the bright one. Dark seems a little too dark and vivid is way too vivid as usual.

You cannot disable DV in the display so there's definitely no way to tell the E6 to play the HDR10 encode rather than DV. You may be able to do that in your player. I have an Oppo 203 and you can set it and the 205 to force HDR10 output if you want. I haven't tried doing an A/B comparison because changing the output from the player involves a reboot of the player so you can't easily do an A/B without having 2 players and 2 copies of the same disc.

I think there has to be a relationship between the DV processing in the display and your HDR10 settings in the display because the DV metadata basically modifies the HDR10 data. All I can say is that on my E6 the stock DV settings seem to work very well and, if anything, I seem to have a slight preference for DV over HDR10 content but they both seem very close to each other in quality. I definitely see no reason to disable DV output in my Oppo 203 in order to watch everything in HDR10 and my feeling is that whatever the DV processing in the E6 does, it's using the HDR10 calibration as a starting point because the differences do seem extremely subtle.

Pick a DV picture mode, don't worry about the settings, and enjoy is my advice.
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I finally found this group after some scrolling. Proud owner of a LG 65 E6. Having problems with my Apple TV recognizing Dolby Vision. Under the Format ... I can only go 4K HDR and not 4K Dolby Vision. Can someone lead me to the promised land?

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I finally found this group after some scrolling. Proud owner of a LG 65 E6. Having problems with my Apple TV recognizing Dolby Vision. Under the Format ... I can only go 4K HDR and not 4K Dolby Vision. Can someone lead me to the promised land?

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Have you "Enabled" deep color on the input HDMI on your LG?
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I finally found this group after some scrolling. Proud owner of a LG 65 E6. Having problems with my Apple TV recognizing Dolby Vision. Under the Format ... I can only go 4K HDR and not 4K Dolby Vision. Can someone lead me to the promised land?

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If you keep on scrolling down, you'll find Dolby Vision 24hz. With the 65E6, it can only accept Dolby Vision at 24hz. It's pretty far down in the list. I had a hard time finding it at first too.
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Have you "Enabled" deep color on the input HDMI on your LG?
I did for all 4. This I believe.


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If you keep on scrolling down, you'll find Dolby Vision 24hz. With the 65E6, it can only accept Dolby Vision at 24hz. It's pretty far down in the list. I had a hard time finding it at first too.
Ahhh ... so it doesn't do 4K Dolby Vision 60hz, but will at 24hz? Sounds like that solves my problem right there.

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If you keep on scrolling down, you'll find Dolby Vision 24hz. With the 65E6, it can only accept Dolby Vision at 24hz. It's pretty far down in the list. I had a hard time finding it at first too.
I couldn't get the Dolby Vision logo in the right hand corner of the screen with 24hz ... but I could with Dolby Vision 30hz. Means it's working correctly?

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I couldn't get the Dolby Vision logo in the right hand corner of the screen with 24hz ... but I could with Dolby Vision 30hz. Means it's working correctly?

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Sadly my LG E65E6P is no more they are buying it back from me as it has permanent burn in I babied this set it's under 6k panel hours.

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Sadly my LG E65E6P is no more they are buying it back from me as it has permanent burn in I babied this set it's under 6k panel hours.

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Sad to hear, could you perchance give more info as to 'babied?' That doesn't really describe your situation that led to permanent BI, and as such isn't really helpful info to others hoping to avoid same fate.

If you watched in movie mode with Oled light around 40 or below and no news stations whatsover, that would be a pretty frightening 'babied' situation.
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If you watched in movie mode with Oled light around 40 or below and no news stations whatsoever, that would be a pretty frightening 'babied' situation.
This was good to read as it's pretty much exactly how I watch mine, except ISF Dark mode, and with occasional gaming, sports, and news. Over 2000 hours and no burn-in whatsoever. I also use the pixel-shift function, for good measure.

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This was good to read as it's pretty much exactly how I watch mine, except ISF Dark mode, and with occasional gaming, sports, and news. Over 2000 hours and no burn-in whatsoever. I also use the pixel-shift function, for good measure.
Fyi my panel only had a little over 5000 hrs when this was spotted I didn't watch news channels for more the 1 hr here or there oled light was low isf dark was used 90 percent of the time.

I am getting about 98% of the value I paid back sad I won't have a 3d oled tv anymore though and I plan to steer clear of the new oled models even the 2018 panels have shown burn in way too fast it's an issue and a severe defect the TVs should not be sold this way till the issue is sorted out.

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Fyi my panel only had a little over 5000 hrs when this was spotted I didn't watch news channels for more the 1 hr here or there oled light was low isf dark was used 90 percent of the time.

I am getting about 98% of the value I paid back sad I won't have a 3d oled tv anymore though and I plan to steer clear of the new oled models even the 2018 panels have shown burn in way too fast it's an issue and a severe defect the TVs should not be sold this way till the issue is sorted out.
Scary! Any idea what burned in?

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Definitely tv logos from all different channels and some sort of rectangular stuff here and there diff parts of the screen clear panel noise only helped mildly cannot fully clear them from the screen therefore lg agreed to buy the unit back I had the initial panel replaced 3 months from when I bought it cause it had a dead bright stuck pixel in the middle of the screen I had to fight to get the panel replaced they did and it lasted less then a year then this occurred being in tech I can honestly say this technology isn't ready for primetime and should have had way more testing before it went to market.
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... it lasted less then a year then this occurred...
Over 5000 hours in less than a year!?! That's 14+ hours a day!
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Yes that's allot of hours which makes me question if the initial replacement panel was even new or not when it was installed I didn't know how to check panel hours when they replaced it for the stuck dead pixel issue so for all I know they gave me a used panel as a replacement either way I'm very unhappy and will be going non oled moving forward.
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Fyi my panel only had a little over 5000 hrs when this was spotted I didn't watch news channels for more the 1 hr here or there oled light was low isf dark was used 90 percent of the time.

I am getting about 98% of the value I paid back sad I won't have a 3d oled tv anymore though and I plan to steer clear of the new oled models even the 2018 panels have shown burn in way too fast it's an issue and a severe defect the TVs should not be sold this way till the issue is sorted out.

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Ooof, that's rough. I'd venture to guess that it has something to do with the panel that was replaced but just pretty bizarre overall. Though initially I totally understand the sour taste the situation leaves you with, from rtings burn in tests the newer models seem less susceptible by a pretty good margin.

I'll have to look at how many hours are on my set now. Nearing 2 years of ownership, and didn't have any issues. Now that doing lots of 4k HDR gaming with a One X i wonder if something will pop up.
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Yes that's allot of hours which makes me question if the initial replacement panel was even new or not when it was installed I didn't know how to check panel hours when they replaced it for the stuck dead pixel issue so for all I know they gave me a used panel as a replacement either way I'm very unhappy and will be going non oled moving forward.

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Think the hour counter is in one of the boards, not the screen. So even if you had known it would not have helped.

You said you used expert dark, can you check the settings and tell us what the olight level and color level settings are?

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Did check and just under 4700 hrs in ~2 years of ownership.
Can't imagine 5000 in 1 yr of ownership

Ran full field colors and still clear so crossing fingers and knocking on wood.
If anything, think gotta agree at this point that panel to panel susceptibility of BI was too drastic on these 6 series and earlier sets.
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Did check and just under 4700 hrs in ~2 years of ownership.
Can't imagine 5000 in 1 yr of ownership

Ran full field colors and still clear so crossing fingers and knocking on wood.
If anything, think gotta agree at this point that panel to panel susceptibility of BI was too drastic on these 6 series and earlier sets.
I gotta go with my own experience, and it has been great with only somewhat careful watching habits and settings. Sounds like something was shady with that panel. Regardless, I'm still surprised LG did anything for this, so good for them for stepping up here.

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May be getting an OLED65E6P. Given the thinness of the screen, is it possible to put one of those acrylic type screen protectors on it, or can the screen not support the weight?

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Bluetooth initializing on lg E6

Can anyone help me with a problem I’m having with my 2016 lg65e6p. I can’t get it to stop telling me to initialize
Bluetooth. It actually says: Bluetooth service needs to be initialized. It’s rally becoming a headache. So if anyone can help me out it would great.
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Just wanted to say I think this TV (65E6P) is at the end of its road with me. I've loved certain things about it (the blacks, the picture on SDR, the fantastic OS), but it's also in some ways one of the more frustratingly problematic sets I've had.

Burn in in three places (two from Zelda Breath of the Wild, the worst being hearts in the upper left corner) and I'm beginning to see the CNN logo burning in as well.

In addition, I was never able to completely solve audio sync issues (from external devices such as AppleTV) at anything but 60Hz (quite minor for SDR, but increasingly apparent in HDR and Dolby Vision). I finally gave up and locked it at 60Hz...there's judder, but I find it more acceptable than the alternative. I just use the native TV apps whenever possible to get audio sync and native frames.

Finally, while I do use HDR for gaming as it appears to work pretty well since that last update, I've given up on both it and Dolby Vision for movies and shows. It's way dimmer than it should be, even though the settings seem correct. Some things seem to do better than others. Dynamic Contrast sort of fixes it, but after trying to force myself to watch it for a long time, I still think the picture from 4K SDR is better... Yes, some of the lighting highlights aren't there, but overall everything just looks more appealing... I think this may be something with the 2016 OLED's in general and look forward to giving HDR and Dolby Vision a shot on the next model I try (which probably won't be an OLED - leaning toward a Sony LCD - given I game, OLED is not for me because of burn-in).

Anyways, I haven't bit the bullet yet, but I wish you all luck with your current equipment and future equipment.
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Can anyone help me with a problem I’m having with my 2016 lg65e6p. I can’t get it to stop telling me to initialize
Bluetooth. It actually says: Bluetooth service needs to be initialized. It’s rally becoming a headache. So if anyone can help me out it would great.
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I'd try unplugging the set and leaving it unplugged for a bit (15 minutes?), then plugging it back in and seeing.

You could also try resetting everything to default/initial settings, but that's a bit drastic, so I'd save that as a last resort.
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I am getting about 98% of the value I paid back sad I won't have a 3d oled tv anymore though and I plan to steer clear of the new oled models even the 2018 panels have shown burn in way too fast it's an issue and a severe defect the TVs should not be sold this way till the issue is sorted out.

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Did you always watch something moving/full screen without logos before turning off whenever having static logo/shield/Amazon blobs on screen at the end of the day? Or did you sometimes just turn off the TV with the last logo of the day still on screen?

I see the temporary retention if I wait too long on Amazon, or the shield menu and I try to always watch something else without letterboxes or logos for a minute before turning off. So far no screen burn after 2 years but hate to think what would happen if the normal overnight equalisation ever ran while bits of the screen was still energised with temporary retention.
Would be like trying to balance your car suspension with a bag of cement in the passenger seat, a suitcase in the boot and am empty fuel tank. You just either do that and I'm amazed the TV would try to do the equivalent to be honest.
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