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I have my roku ultra set to match frame
Rate on in advanced settings then the settings i mentioned , am I optimizing what I can is I guess what I’m looking for


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If you want it to be correct as far a true 5:5 cadence, then leave Roku at match frame rate, RC on and TM off. To be honest, 2016 LG OLEDS do not have the best motion handling. It's a 2nd generation 4K OLED. I have a 1st generation 4K OLED (EF9500) and the 2nd generation E6. Motion is identical. They did not improve motion from the 1st generation. What LG did was make the panel much more uniform compared to the EF9500. if you want much better motion, you need to move up to a C9 or CX. The CX is a 6th generation 4K OLED.

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If you want it to be correct as far a true 5:5 cadence, then leave Roku at match frame rate, RC on and TM off. To be honest, 2016 LG OLEDS do not have the best motion handling. It's a 2nd generation 4K OLED. I have a 1st generation 4K OLED (EF9500) and the 2nd generation E6. Motion is identical. They did not improve motion from the 1st generation. What LG did was make the panel much more uniform compared to the EF9500. if you want much better motion, you need to move up to a C9 or CX. The CX is a 6th generation 4K OLED.

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Nope. You just prefer 24p converted to 60p. Once you turn on TM, you get 3:2 pulldown. 0,7 is the same as 0,0 all the way to 0,10. DeBlur has no effect when you convert 24p to 60p.
Totally agree with this....
Tried playing with deblur and it has zero impact on motion with 24p content.
Yeah but it will definitely makes motion a lot better when set 2,0
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You must have an older Roku. All the new ones only allow 60p pass through. As far as whether or not the Roku converts it better to 60p or the tv does, you have to choose which one does it better.
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If you want it to be correct as far a true 5:5 cadence, then leave Roku at match frame rate, RC on and TM off. To be honest, 2016 LG OLEDS do not have the best motion handling. It's a 2nd generation 4K OLED. I have a 1st generation 4K OLED (EF9500) and the 2nd generation E6. Motion is identical. They did not improve motion from the 1st generation. What LG did was make the panel much more uniform compared to the EF9500. if you want much better motion, you need to move up to a C9 or CX. The CX is a 6th generation 4K OLED.
Uniform and Brighter than previous gen oled.
I used to think that my E6 is having motion/Judder/Motion stutter issues bec of pixel response time but then when played 60 fps content there was no trace of any motion defects.

Do your E6s suffer from vertical bandings at all? I think the bigger the screen size the larger bandings you get....55 inches are almost band free....manoj mohan do you see bandings on your 77G6 ?

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Uniform and Brighter than previous gen oled.
I used to think that my E6 is having motion/Judder/Motion stutter issues bec of pixel response time but then when played 60 fps content there was no trace of any motion defects.

Do your E6s suffer from vertical bandings at all? I think the bigger the screen size the larger bandings you get....55 inches are almost band free....manoj mohan do you see bandings on your 77G6 ?

I don’t see a single band and the screen is much cleaner then what my zt60 used to be with some dirty screen effect . I have settled on trumotion 0/7 but adding a little bit of super resolution to low I think has made picture better and more quality . I always find settings I like for about one week then it gets all messed up again


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I don’t see a single band and the screen is much cleaner then what my zt60 used to be with some dirty screen effect . I have settled on trumotion 0/7 but adding a little bit of super resolution to low I think has made picture better and more quality . I always find settings I like for about one week then it gets all messed up again


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That's amazing to hear......If you are comfortable, can you show your 5% black/grey slide here?
I wanna know how all e6 were able to deliver 5% black that has been an improve in newer 2018/2019 oleds.
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Id would say 2016s was good on bands but Worse on Screen grey uniformity they was not Even across the whole Screen. That improved over the years on New panels.

2016s was also not pink tintet like later ones that had issues with of the bigger red sub pixel on full Screen white n brighter content.

Bands 2017 was Worse, 2018s was better And 2019s again got Worse.
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Uniform and Brighter than previous gen oled.
I used to think that my E6 is having motion/Judder/Motion stutter issues bec of pixel response time but then when played 60 fps content there was no trace of any motion defects.

Do your E6s suffer from vertical bandings at all? I think the bigger the screen size the larger bandings you get....55 inches are almost band free....manoj mohan do you see bandings on your 77G6 ?
77" was not so good in 2016 based on all the evidence I've seen so far. I have yet to see contrary proof of a clean 77" (at least as clean as you could achieve at 65" and 55"), but would be willing to be proven wrong. Mine is below (far left), and it's less than ideal. I've also included photos from a few other owners, so a sampling of 3 total sets built from October through November 2016 (the one at the far right is not as sharp, so it's apparently smoother complexion is probably deceiving).
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77" was not so good in 2016 based on all the evidence I've seen so far. I have yet to see contrary proof of a clean 77" (at least as clean as you could achieve at 65" and 55"), but would be willing to be proven wrong. Mine is below (far left), and it's less than ideal. I've also included photos from a few other owners, so a sampling of 3 total sets built from October through November 2016 (the one at the far right is not as sharp, so it's apparently smoother complexion is probably deceiving).
Thanks for the pics.
I do agree with you. Still wondering if there is any banding free panel exists.
Manoj mohan, Can you put the grey slide here of your 77G6?
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Id would say 2016s was good on bands but Worse on Screen grey uniformity they was not Even across the whole Screen. That improved over the years on New panels.

2016s was also not pink tintet like later ones that had issues with of the bigger red sub pixel on full Screen white n brighter content.

Bands 2017 was Worse, 2018s was better And 2019s again got Worse.
Vertical banding can truly ruin viewing experience. Just wondering can't it be avoided at the time of manufacturing? Can it be considered as a defect? How come the bands can be seen in vertical manners and not horizontal or diagonal? It's so bad and not acceptable that even 2019 oleds have the same issue. LG should take care of that.
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Aye, more owner photos would give us a broader sampling (there's one other 77" frequenter in here who was going to take photos last year but didn't get around to it). Everything you need to do so is in the banding thread (not including a half-decent camera that can take shots in low lighting of course): https://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ol...ignetting.html
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Vertical banding can truly ruin viewing experience. Just wondering can't it be avoided at the time of manufacturing? Can it be considered as a defect? How come the bands can be seen in vertical manners and not horizontal or diagonal? It's so bad and not acceptable that even 2019 oleds have the same issue. LG should take care of that.
Thats why its important to check a New oled after its first 3/4 4hour comp runs
They dont shift much after those. If the tv isnt good enought its still in the retur Window to try a New.
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Thats why its important to check a New oled after its first 3/4 4hour comp runs
They dont shift much after those. If the tv isnt good enought its still in the retur Window to try a New.
So 1 hour compensation cycle has any impact on bandings?
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So 1 hour compensation cycle has any impact on bandings?
From what i read one should be carefull of using the 1h one it can make bands show more than the auto 4h use tv and turn off tv with the remote one.

Oleds shifts only in they first hours of use. Seen bands come n go but its rare they fade away.

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From what i read one should be carefull of using the 1h one it can make bands show more than the auto 4h use tv and turn off tv with the remote one.

Oleds shifts only in they first hours of use. Seen bands come n go but its rare they fade away.
LG has never mentioned the major flaws of 1 hr compensation cycle. Even when you hit the option in setting there should be some sort of warning pop out but....
When the panel is having any issue the first thing LG customer support will ask you to perform several 1 hr comp cycle. I have heard each 1 hr comp cycle makes the panel less brighter. Once i accidently hit 1 hr comp cycle when my set was at about 500hrs but never noticed any difference.
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Can u guys share what 3D settings u use ? Default ? Kind of hurts my eyes sometimes


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I just use defaults for everything regarding 3D settings are concerned. For other TV-centric settings I use Expert Bright Room with OLED Light at 60, Brightness at 52 and most other stuff OFF.
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That's happens for some people. It also gives some people headaches, ranging from minor to pounding. What your eye-brain combination is being asked to do when looking at 3D images is far from normal, even if you're Marty Feldman.
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What 3D movie you are watching and getting eyes sore?
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That's happens for some people. It also gives some people headaches, ranging from minor to pounding. What your eye-brain combination is being asked to do when looking at 3D images is far from normal, even if you're Marty Feldman.
I really never have had that issue, even when watched 2-3 3D movies back to back. Yeah, but my brother initially mentioned a bit of dizziness. I think the more 3D content you watch, the less headache or dizziness you feel.
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Default still with 3 darbee effect added to clear up 3D slight .

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LG has never mentioned the major flaws of 1 hr compensation cycle. Even when you hit the option in setting there should be some sort of warning pop out but....
When the panel is having any issue the first thing LG customer support will ask you to perform several 1 hr comp cycle. I have heard each 1 hr comp cycle makes the panel less brighter. Once i accidently hit 1 hr comp cycle when my set was at about 500hrs but never noticed any difference.
How do I run the 4 hour compensation cycle? I’ve only run the 1 hr one from the settings menu. Thanks!
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How do I run the 4 hour compensation cycle? I’ve only run the 1 hr one from the settings menu. Thanks!

I believe it runs automagically every 2,000 hours or so of use.
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Do not run 1 hr comp cycle manually. Let the TV complete 2000 hrs and it will hit it automatically. I did the same mistake when my set completed about 500 hrs.
They say it will create a bad impact on your screen if you run it unnecessarily multiple times.

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It runs automatically. It's a 7 to 8 minute cycle that runs after turning tv off after watching tv for cumulative 4 hours. IOW, if you watch tv for 2 hours one day and turn it off, it will not run. Next day you watch tv for 3 hours, and turn it off, the 7 to 8 minute comp cycle will run because you had watched it a total of 4 hours or more. Then it starts over again the next time you use your tv until you hit 4 or more hours again. It's all automatic.
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It runs automatically. It's a 7 to 8 minute cycle that runs after turning tv off after watching tv for cumulative 4 hours. IOW, if you watch tv for 2 hours one day and turn it off, it will not run. Next day you watch tv for 3 hours, and turn it off, the 7 to 8 minute comp cycle will run because you had watched it a total of 4 hours or more. Then it starts over again the next time you use your tv until you hit 4 or more hours again. It's all automatic.

wxman - Are you still using a 2-hour comp cycle run in your service menu settings? I have mine set as such. Just curious.

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Ever since this stupid virus, I have been sitting at home for the past 10 days sitting in front of my g6p for hours and hours and hours and adjusting settings. I have gained 20 lbs, and have lots of body hair. I hate TVs and all their stupid adjustments. Im going to bed!
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Do not run 1 hr comp cycle manually. Let the TV complete 2000 hrs and it will hit it automatically. I did the same mistake when my set completed about 500 hrs.
They say it will create a bad impact on your screen if you run it unnecessarily multiple times.
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Sony cryptically implies it within their owner's manual (something along the lines of refraining from using the procedure more than once a year). LG has not made any similar proclamations.
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wxman - Are you still using a 2-hour comp cycle run in your service menu settings? I have mine set as such. Just curious.
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