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Gamma will not affect perfect blacks. Brightness does. 0% black will still be 0% black if brightness is set correctly with gamma 2.2.
M having issue achieving perfect black in "Expert Bright"
Can you tell me what setting you are using?
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Gamma will not affect perfect blacks. Brightness does. 0% black will still be 0% black if brightness is set correctly with gamma 2.2.
M having issue achieving perfect black in "Expert Bright" when using gamma 2.2
Can you tell me what setting you are using?
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M having issue achieving perfect black in "Expert Bright" when using gamma 2.2
Can you tell me what setting you are using?
Set brightness the same way you set brightness with other gamma. Display a 0% slide in a dark room and lower brightness until the screen is totally black with no glow.
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Use AVS Disc to set brightness to not to lose shadow details with Black crush. Its more important than 100 Blacks if the panel cant go total Black n not Black crush.

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Use AVS Disc to set brightness to not to lose shadow details with Black crush. Its more important than 100 Blacks if the panel cant go total Black n not Black crush.
IMO, using AVS disc to set brightness is useless on OLED. The correct way to do it without calibration equipment is to be in a dark room. Use a 0% slide. Raise brightness until it glows. Then lower 1 click at a time until it's black. Next, to bring out near black detail, adjust 5 IRE luminance. With 0% slide, raise 5 IRE one click at a time until 0% glows, then lower 1 click until it's black again. On my tv, with gamma 2.2, brightness is 51, and 5 IRE luminance is +5. If i raise to +6 it's glows. With gamma 2.4, you can raise 5 IRE luminance even higher. On my tv, brightness is set to 52 and 5 IRE is +10 and 0% slide remains perfectly black. That's how you bring out near black detail without losing perfect blacks. Never raise brightness to where 0% glows just to get more detail. Pretty much destroys any reason to own an OLED. The process to get it right takes time. So make sure your eyes are adjusted in a dark room, and do those steps.
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IMO, using AVS disc to set brightness is useless on OLED. The correct way to do it without calibration equipment is to be in a dark room. Use a 0% slide. Raise brightness until it glows. Then lower 1 click at a time until it's black. Next, to bring out near black detail, adjust 5 IRE luminance. With 0% slide, raise 5 IRE one click at a time until 0% glows, then lower 1 click until it's black again. On my tv, with gamma 2.2, brightness is 51, and 5 IRE luminance is +5. If i raise to +6 it's glows. With gamma 2.4, you can raise 5 IRE luminance even higher. On my tv, brightness is set to 52 and 5 IRE is +10 and 0% slide remains perfectly black. That's how you bring out near black detail without losing perfect blacks. Never raise brightness to where 0% glows just to get more detail. Pretty much destroys any reason to own an OLED. The process to get it right takes time. So make sure your eyes are adjusted in a dark room, and do those steps.
Wxman, you’re no longer using a ramp down with the IRE values? Just editing the IRE 5 value? I’m pretty content with my setup but I’m always looking for extra tweaks. Perhaps I’ll have a look. I do run gamma BT1886 though which does change things.

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All my oleds always been BT1886 gamma calibrated got told it respons faster out of Black.
But if thats true i never read up on.

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Wxman, you’re no longer using a ramp down with the IRE values? Just editing the IRE 5 value? I’m pretty content with my setup but I’m always looking for extra tweaks. Perhaps I’ll have a look. I do run gamma BT1886 though which does change things.
I cant see any difference between 1886 and 2.4. I have settings exactly the same for both, and if I pause an image, and flip between the two, they look the same. I do recall a pro calibrator saying there was no difference between the two OOTB early on in this thread, and it looks that way to me. I have the ramp down on 2.4 and 1886, but did not do that on 2.2.
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I cant see any difference between 1886 and 2.4. I have settings exactly the same for both, and if I pause an image, and flip between the two, they look the same. I do recall a pro calibrator saying there was no difference between the two OOTB early on in this thread, and it looks that way to me. I have the ramp down on 2.4 and 1886, but did not do that on 2.2.

Got it - thanks for the scoop, as always! Im pretty content with how things look right now but Im glad the E6 threads are still active with new info & banter. . Im using the ramp down with BT1886. All good here.
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Need a bit of guidance regarding Burn-In
Theses days my E6 is on for more than 8-9 hours continuously...no breaks at all..How the TV will perform 10mins comp cycle if its not switched off? Do I need to turn my E6 off after every 4 hrs of use?
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The compensation cycle won't protect from burn-in (or pixel wear-out). It will run at the end of 8-9 hours (or whenever you power down).
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Theses days my E6 is on for more than 8-9 hours continuously...no breaks at all..How the TV will perform 10mins comp cycle if its not switched off? Do I need to turn my E6 off after every 4 hrs of use?
I would select an unused picture mode...and drop the olight and color level way down for general tv watching. Switch back to your normal mode when you really need a pretty picture.
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Set it to auto turn off after 4h of use.

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Set it to auto turn off after 4h of use.
Thanks for help......
Would definitely try to do so but its pretty silly to turn it off for 15 mins after use of 4hrs......
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Yes, yes it is, so stop worrying.
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Would definitely try to do so but its pretty silly to turn it off for 15 mins after use of 4hrs......
Not if You want to take care off it n i guess u take breaks with 8h infront of the tv
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Yes, yes it is, so stop worrying.
I agree. If one is paranoid about BI, and turning their tv off every 4 hours to run the 8 minute comp cycle, then perhaps OLED is not for them. I have never worried about it, and owning 2 OLEDs for 4+ years, I have no BI. Life is too short to have OCD with a tv.
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If i had ocd i gone into service meny and changed the comps to 2hours
I did not

Worry free oled Wonder since the Lg 1500 15" oled tvs with zero burn in yet there Pages n Pages of people with burn in lol take a guess what metod works vs not.

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I agree. If one is paranoid about BI, and turning their tv off every 4 hours to run the 8 minute comp cycle, then perhaps OLED is not for them. I have never worried about it, and owning 2 OLEDs for 4+ years, I have no BI. Life is too short to have OCD with a tv.
Nothing like that.......Just asking for help......Getting more informed about how one can avoid burn-in.......Yes, m OCD and that's why its better to take care before its too late.......Is that wrong or being paranoid in your opinion?
One of my friend has 55inch E6 itts been 2yrs and it got burn-in not severe though.
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If i had ocd i gone into service meny and changed the comps to 2hours
I did not

Worry free oled Wonder since the Lg 1500 15" oled tvs with zero burn in yet there Pages n Pages of people with burn in lol take a guess what metod works vs not.
Yes, I switched to 2 hours, to match what my EF9500 was set to OOTB. And that was day 1 of ownership. Since then, for the last 4 years, I haven't cared one bit about BI. I watch whatever I want, not caring whether it lasts another day, or another 5 years. It's just a piece of electronics, not family or friends. It's not precious.
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In the grand scheme of life, worrying about a tv getting burn in, seems futile. It's just a tv. I'm more concerned about my family and friends getting Covid 19. Family and friends struggling to make ends meet because they have lost their jobs because of this virus. I worry about them. Worrying about my tv, seems self centered. The last thing that ever crosses my mind each day is whether or not my tv has BI. It's truly meaningless to me.
I hardly use my E6 its my least worry enjoy it the Odd 3D moment 1/2 times a mnt n hope it last a few years for that.

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Power filtering was great in the days of analog and would produce a better sound and image as it made the analog signal more stable. With digital, filtering wont make the bits any sharper, any more brighter or any more colorful. With digital, either you have an image or you dont. Now if you want to make the image look better, attach a darbee between your blu ray player and your tv. It doesnt make the image more colorful, but it does improve detail to the point it looks as good as or better than 4K.
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Last night was The Jungle Book 3d watch......and it was so so great with its 3D presentation.......absolutely loved......zero cross-talk.......
Mowgli: Legend of the Jungle in HDR was a great watch too..... must watch!
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Watched Gravity 3D last night. 🤯 It's just amazing. It did appear to be more temperamental regarding correct viewing position. Although I imagine that's a function of the depth in the frame. At least it makes sense to me that as the delta between the concurrent frames increases, alignment would become more obvious.
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Watched Gravity 3D last night. 🤯 It's just amazing. It did appear to be more temperamental regarding correct viewing position. Although I imagine that's a function of the depth in the frame. At least it makes sense to me that as the delta between the concurrent frames increases, alignment would become more obvious.
Gravity in 3D is great the end part OMG no hdr beats it.
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Gravity in 3D is great the end part OMG no hdr beats it.
This got me thinking, is 3D more impactful then HDR 🤔 The E6's 3D is the best I've seen and I think that's almost universally agreed upon here. But the only HDR screen I've spent much time with is also my E6. Which I understand is not the best even in its day, although still good.

So I have to agree, well done 3D beats HDR all the way. But I am planning on getting the 77CX later this year. So I'll then be able to make a better comparison. I'm interested to see what I conclude then.
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