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Yes same receiver all motion settings off, I think my eyes were hurting and seeing blurriness because my white and colors are completely off. I don’t think lg default settings are very good. Once I adjusted the whites and colors based on rtings e6p settings it’s been better . I’m waiting for a professional calibrator but
Who knows when that’ll be

Pixel shift off in the long run didn’t help


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Noticed one thing.........The brighter the objects the more stutter will introduce....no stutter for lighter/darker colors...
I too using Rtings recommended settings and its fruitful.
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Noticed one thing.........The brighter the objects the more stutter will introduce....no stutter for lighter/darker colors...
I too using Rtings recommended settings and its fruitful.

Yes ! Dark scenes fine! The brighter the more
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I agree, with RC on and TM off, scrolling of credits is super smooth. If you turn RC off, you will see some stutter even with TM off, or if its on with dejudder set at 0.
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Just because I’m bored and have nothing else to do I saw end credits from hdr and sdr, I have no stutter very smooth


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Motion on Lg 2016s is what it is once seen it cant be unseen. Try end credits on a movie scrolling up ...
Its a ssssstutter fest.
Tried setting all the motion settings off and It just made me sad...It stutter and annoys me...
As recommended by Rtings, motion setting 2,0 is acceptable with less stutter as compared to setting is off but a bit of artifacts will be introduced when extremely fast moving action is taking place such as rotating helicopter blades or fans but otherwise its the best setting, have been using since the day I bought my E6 and its working good actually.
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IMHO the recently arrived posters on this thread who use it for banter should PM and take it off-line. Banter is not the purpose of AVS. YMMV
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Lg motion settings been the same since 2013 lol so thats a easy read up on any forum.
Its always been one that dont add unwanted smooting n keep the finer details left in the picture.

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Lg motion settings been the same since 2013 lol so thats a easy read up on any forum.
Its always been one that dont add unwanted smooting n keep the finer details left in the picture.

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Even my W8 got motion settings calibrated (Adjusted) with same motion settings like my first 9800 oled noting changed on Lg oleds. A calibrator uses motion test patterns n its been the same results on all the Lg oleds i got calibrated. Simple n easy.

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Even a W8 is getting pretty old in the tooth now, though I read the 2020 BFI implementation is tied to frame interpolation, resulting in questionable results.

Bantering is part of ownership of these last remaining relics of their kind. I just scroll past if the repetition gets irritating. Frozen II 3D just arrived in the mail today, as the format continues to waddle forward somehow.
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Motion on Lg 2016s is what it is once seen it cant be unseen. Try end credits on a movie scrolling up ...
Its a ssssstutter fest.
I watch end credits on my OLED with literally every movie I watch and have no issues with stutter whatsoever.

Then again, I also always turn every motion smoothing and enhancement setting I can find completely off.
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Alright finally got it in the basement time for comparison (once plasma reaches room temps!)




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2016 LG OLED 65G6P and 65E6P Owners Thread

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Alright finally got it in the basement time for comparison (once plasma reaches room temps!)




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Ok after all this time and going back and forth, back and fourth , both amazing tvs , on one hand one of the best plasma TVs ever made and on the other hand my first oled and a huge 77” ... and...



They look the damn same !

Ok after some more time I initially was like oh yeah the Oled wins because of the brightness but after some time eyes just went more towards the plasma , the colors are so much more natural and not blah and all white looking . Will see more ..


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That's great! Good to know you liked both the TVs...How is motion when compared? Does plasma deliver cleaner banding free images?


All I can see from the pic is that the height of your 77"oled is about 4 feet and your sitting is 2 feet that is not good for watching 3D movies. Do you see cross talk while watching 3D movies?
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Planning to order Ruse of Skywalker 3D...Since its post converted...Anybody can tell me about its 3D presentation?
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That's great! Good to know you liked both the TVs...How is motion when compared? Does plasma deliver cleaner banding free images?


All I can see from the pic is that the height of your 77"oled is about 4 feet and your sitting is 2 feet that is not good for watching 3D movies. Do you see cross talk while watching 3D movies?

Honestly they look about the same, only
Thing is oled is bigger , 3-4x more
Expensive and can get brighter . The rest is the same .

I don’t think I get cross talk but probably won’t even know what it looks like


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Crosstalk/ghosting is something you see mostly for brighter to darker scenes. It's like you are seeing double images when sitting is not properly or can be a 3D filter misaligned issue.
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Just wondering why all the oleds have yellow slide issue? While performing display uniformity yellow color looks a bit of greenish even when slight shift in viewing angles? I am sure its not the burn-in.
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Just wondering why all the oleds have yellow slide issue? While performing display uniformity yellow color looks a bit of greenish even when slight shift in viewing angles? I am sure its not the burn-in.
Because yellow is formulated by outputting red and green. Red ages the fastest and the center of the screen typically displays human faces (which themselves utilize more of the red subpixel than the green), which is why you have a greater prevalence of green in said center. How can you be so sure it's not burn-in/premature aging?
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Because yellow is formulated by outputting red and green. Red ages the fastest and the center of the screen typically displays human faces (which themselves utilize more of the red subpixel than the green), which is why you have a greater prevalence of green in said center. How can you be so sure it's not burn-in/premature aging?
I could say that coz even at the time of purchase when I checked the slides it was there....and its tint changes a bit when change in angles.
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A calibration will fix that. Yellow should look like any other Colour .

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How calibration can fix it? Isn't it something related to the bandings? As per my knowledge two types of bandings one is brighter that will over do the images and other is lighter that will under do the colours, more responsible for colour shift.
What exactly is calibration? Something done in service mode? Is it done in different corners or sides of the panel? Or is it done by changing values in regular advanced settings?
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Majority of 2016 lager size oleds had vignetting issue so whatever is value fixed for one side can't be correct for other side of the display so how calibration can fix it?
Plus the major reason for discolouration is bandings, the gap between two bands is darker while others are brighter, how calibration can fix that?

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I could say that coz even at the time of purchase when I checked the slides it was there....and its tint changes a bit when change in angles.
That's normal with OLED. It doesn't have a perfect off axis view like plasma. Better than most LCD, but not as good as plasma. So color will shift off axis. From RTINGS, about our 2016 OLEDS.
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RTINGS said this about the E9.

"However, just like the C9, colors shift and lose accuracy at smaller angles. Although they're still better than most LED TVs, they're worse than the Sony Z9F and the Samsung Q90R, which use VA panels and a special viewing angle filter."
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For other colour when changing viewing angles won't cause much difference but yellow...differs a lot to seem greenish...rest of the colours are perfect.
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Tint. Colour tint on colours has noting to do with banding.
A calibration done in the tv cms meny as a 2 point or 20 point.

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That's normal with OLED. It doesn't have a perfect off axis view like plasma. Better than most LCD, but not as good as plasma. So color will shift off axis. From RTINGS, about our 2016 OLEDS.
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Tint. Colour tint on colours has noting to do with banding.
A calibration done in the tv cms meny as a 2 point or 20 point.
What is Dirty Screen Effect(DSE)? Will the bad bandings responsible for it?
Many of the 2016 oled users have reported clouding effect/DSE in panning shots?
DSE/clouding is even present in newer oleds?
As per vincent theo Panasonic GZ has the most cleanest screen he has ever reviewed.
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Here is my 5% grey slide and yellow screen formulation slide....is it okay for normal viewing?

My E6 has not asked to perform 1 hr cycle....still at about 1800hrs using it more now so that it will hit 2000hrs.
Hope the screen gets more uniform after that.
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