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Screen shift does Mess up the picture and motion for me . Off is best .


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No visible blooming on QLED or High end SONY LED LCD TVs. Those videos by reviewers are exaggerated by increasing camera exposure settings. A minor blooming is there but you really have to look for it that too in a complete dark room. Just like OLED, QLED too has its own pluses and minuses. But I do see QLED a more better option and that's why Sony/Samsung are still showing major interest in manufacturing.
For many people, it is dark room conditions where LCDs start to struggle though. Movies are a huge part of many people’s use cases and we don’t watch them usually at 2 in the afternoon with windows open everywhere. Mostly dark or almost totally dark are the proper room conditions many of us want to watch our favorite films in. In this type of environment, OLED is king and it’s still not that close.

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For many people, it is dark room conditions where LCDs start to struggle though. Movies are a huge part of many people’s use cases and we don’t watch them usually at 2 in the afternoon with windows open everywhere. Mostly dark or almost totally dark are the proper room conditions many of us want to watch our favorite films in. In this type of environment, OLED is king and it’s still not that close.
You need to witness QLED or high end SONY LED LCD TVs once. With full array local deeming(more than 650 independent zones for a 65 inches screen) has helped them to achieve black levels close to OLED , a minor blooming can be noticed in couple of scenes but otherwise its a complete beast in other categories of picture quality.

Here is vincent theo has to say about SONY Z9D vs 2017 OLEDS. A perfect comparison side by side, will also explain about almost non-existent blooming.

https://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/kd65...1610164372.htm

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A side by side comparison between SONY Z9D Vs LG 2016/17 OLED.

I don't see any blooming but the brilliantly bright pictures with deep colors.
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Here is vincent theo has to say about SONY Z9D vs 2017 OLEDS. A perfect comparison side by side, will also explain about almost non-existent blooming.

https://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/kd65...1610164372.htm

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps-JIttlB8c
In a darkened room, QLED sets are absolutely horrible.

It depends upon your tolerance for such things; if I can see any blooming whatsoever, it's too much, and 450 zones are far from enough.

"Almost non-existent" means it's there and can be seen, and that's unacceptable to me the same way any risk of burn-in apparently is to you; posting under-exposed screen shots doesn't help your case any.

Your agenda in pushing QLED is getting tiring.
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A side by side comparison between SONY Z9D Vs LG 2016/17 OLED.

I don't see any blooming but the brilliantly bright pictures with deep colors.
This is the E6/G6 thread. We are here to discuss them.
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I tried asking this over in the 4K section but it’s quite dead there. Has anyone com up with good settings for HDR with the new Star Wars UHD set? They are quite dark and drab with my normal settings which seem to work for like every other HDR title I own. But these star wars transfers just aren’t that great, IMO. I know I could play around all day but wanted to know if anyone with a six series set has come up with some tweaks for better overall PQ for the star wars 4K discs. Primarily the original trilogy.

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I tried asking this over in the 4K section but it’s quite dead there. Has anyone com up with good settings for HDR with the new Star Wars UHD set? They are quite dark and drab with my normal settings which seem to work for like every other HDR title I own. But these star wars transfers just aren’t that great, IMO. I know I could play around all day but wanted to know if anyone with a six series set has come up with some tweaks for better overall PQ for the star wars 4K discs. Primarily the original trilogy.
Try setting your panny to SDR2020. HDR10 is too dark. I tried setting my OPPO to force output as DV, but still it was dark. You might lose a little specular highlights but I don't think they get brighter than 500 nits, so SDR2020 will maintain the wider color gamut. If you do, make sure you set your color gamut to wide on the E6 for SDR2020.
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That’s how I feel too.

Thought I have to go through it as part of the warranty claim process - before they honour the credit of the purchase.

To me it is a waste of resources but they said LG tech support confirms the panel they put in has 3D?!

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I’m here to report, that my E6 is going to be replaced, when 3D functionality is gone after the panel replacement.

BB finally re-opened placed an order on a 77” CX. Now i just need to b patient

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Try setting your panny to SDR2020. HDR10 is too dark. I tried setting my OPPO to force output as DV, but still it was dark. You might lose a little specular highlights but I don't think they get brighter than 500 nits, so SDR2020 will maintain the wider color gamut. If you do, make sure you set your color gamut to wide on the E6 for SDR2020.

Actually, I need to update my sig. I no longer have that Panny player. I gave it to my brother who needed one a ways back for a weekend and I told him just to keep it(his player broke). I only have the LG-UBK90 right now. Ill mess around. Thanks though!

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My friend owned a 55E6P, 28 months old, completed about 5000 hours. Look at the pics attached. A case of severe Burn-In, Seen on screen almost all the time especially the logo at the bottom is quite noticeable from 10 feet distance.
Unfortunately its out of warranty so nothing can be done.
Now he has lost his faith in OLED and LG.
We done multiple comp cycle but nothing positive impact.
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So it's clear that we have babysit our 2016 oled tvs and even though the risk of burn-in would be still there.
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So it's clear that we have babysit our 2016 oled tvs and even though the risk of burn-in would be still there.
No it's not, and this thread proves it.
With simple paying attention to what you watch and tweaking a few settings one can all but eliminate the risk of burn-in, I have never had to babysit my E6 and it gets used every day for 4-6 hours a day. What I don't do is watch static news channel images for 18 hours a day.
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No it's not, and this thread proves it.
With simple paying attention to what you watch and tweaking a few settings one can all but eliminate the risk of burn-in, I have never had to babysit my E6 and it gets used every day for 4-6 hours a day. What I don't do is watch static news channel images for 18 hours a day.
For what it's worth, I moved my E6 into my office and connected a mac mini to it where I stream CNBC, FOX, CNN and another random channel, at a minimum, 10 hours per day, five to six days per week. I have yet to have a burn in issue.
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For what it's worth, I moved my E6 into my office and connected a mac mini to it where I stream CNBC, FOX, CNN and another random channel, at a minimum, 10 hours per day, five to six days per week. I have yet to have a burn in issue.
Why would you not just sell it...rare 3D tv...and just buy an cheap LCD for those things?

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Why would you not just sell it...rare 3D tv...and just buy an cheap LCD for those things?
That is an excellent question...my plasma TV of 15 years died in 2016ish, so I was a sucker who paid $6,000 for their E6 TV after visiting a local A/V store right when they came out. So rather than taking a $5,000 bath, I decided to keep it. Live and learn.
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That is an excellent question...my plasma TV of 15 years died in 2016ish, so I was a sucker who paid $6,000 for their E6 TV after visiting a local A/V store right when they came out. So rather than taking a $5,000 bath, I decided to keep it. Live and learn.
Ok, just seems like $1000 in your pocket from a sale (to someone who really would love a 3D tv and enjoy it) is a better way to go. What Olight and color levels are you running it at? And how long have you been using it for a news media viewer?

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Ok, just seems like $1000 in your pocket from a sale (to someone who really would love a 3D tv and enjoy it) is a better way to go. What Olight and color levels are you running it at? And how long have you been using it for a news media viewer?
I honestly have been running it how it came out of the box and I have used it since the end of 2016 like this. Not a single issue. My only gripe is, I nicked the screen with an HDMI cord, called LG for a replacement, and they wanted $2,000, which is more than what a new one costs, on sale. But that was user error.
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I honestly have been running it how it came out of the box and I have used it since the end of 2016 like this. Not a single issue. My only gripe is, I nicked the screen with an HDMI cord, called LG for a replacement, and they wanted $2,000, which is more than what a new one costs, on sale. But that was user error.
With that amount of use you should be nearing or a bit over 10,000 hours. You might want to run this Ytube video and report what you see in the 10,000+ hour thread. https://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ol...ur-oled-8.html



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Did anyone go from a 2016 to cx? And can comment on experience ?
The place to ask that question is the CX owners thread, not the E6 owners thread since they have probably moved there.
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For what it's worth, I moved my E6 into my office and connected a mac mini to it where I stream CNBC, FOX, CNN and another random channel, at a minimum, 10 hours per day, five to six days per week. I have yet to have a burn in issue.
Exactly, burn in isn't the rampant "every set gets it" paranoia that some try and spread, but something that with simple steps can be minimized, and in some cases no work and it's still fine. The adjustments I made to decrease of burn in for my E6 were also parts of the adjustments to get a better looking picture, so win-win.


I will never say burn in can't or doesn't happen, in fact I'm pretty sure with a couple of setting changes AND some heavy watching of known burn in sources, I could make burn in happen
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Why don't you just visit your nearest LG store and see the difference yourself rather than asking it in here?
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No it's not, and this thread proves it.
With simple paying attention to what you watch and tweaking a few settings one can all but eliminate the risk of burn-in, I have never had to babysit my E6 and it gets used every day for 4-6 hours a day. What I don't do is watch static news channel images for 18 hours a day.
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The place to ask that question is the CX owners thread, not the E6 owners thread since they have probably moved there.
Even if someone has CX and put his opinion here it will never be good enough for you and you will prefer waiting for C11/C12 hits the market.

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No it's not, and this thread proves it.
With simple paying attention to what you watch and tweaking a few settings one can all but eliminate the risk of burn-in, I have never had to babysit my E6 and it gets used every day for 4-6 hours a day. What I don't do is watch static news channel images for 18 hours a day.
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My friend owned a 55E6P, 28 months old, completed about 5000 hours. Look at the pics attached. A case of severe Burn-In, Seen on screen almost all the time especially the logo at the bottom is quite noticeable from 10 feet distance.
Unfortunately its out of warranty so nothing can be done.
Now he has lost his faith in OLED and LG.
We done multiple comp cycle but nothing positive impact.
The TV looks even more terrible in person than the pics attached.
If you haven't met with Burn-in that does not mean it does not exist.
You cant deny the possibility.
The live example is in front of you(See the pics).
Can't argue more.
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If you haven't met with Burn-in that does not mean it does not exist.
You cant deny the possibility.
The live example is in front of you(See the pics).
Can't argue more.
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Sorry but your post shows you're not reading what I'm saying, I have NEVER said it's not possible or does not exist, in fact I even suggested I could generate burn in on a set if you want to donate one to me, what I'm saying is that one can minimize the chance of being affected by it.
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Exactly, burn in isn't the rampant "every set gets it" paranoia that some try and spread, but something that with simple steps can be minimized, and in some cases no work and it's still fine. The adjustments I made to decrease of burn in for my E6 were also parts of the adjustments to get a better looking picture, so win-win.

I will never say burn in can't or doesn't happen, in fact I'm pretty sure with a couple of setting changes AND some heavy watching of known burn in sources, I could make burn in happen

This post is correct. BI is not rampant, or common or gauranteed. It is quite easily mitigated but the end user does have to adhere to some suggestions to avoid it. Its not much different from the plasma days and thats where many of us OLED owners came from. We get it. We know what to do with emissive displays and are willing to manage them as needed. Its not hard but it does requre some diligence. There are use cases where an OLED is a bad choice for a TV. Ive harped on thaat point since Day 1. For the average "Joe" that just wants to slap the TV over the fireplace or shove into the armoir to run cartoons all day for the kids? Nah. Bad idea. Or, another bad use case would be the cable news gang that watches CNN, MSNBC or any news channels with obnoxious logos & tickers plastered on the screen the whole time. Bad. Not recomended. Id also argue that heavy gamers should be extra careful or stay away but there arent a lot of reports of BI from gamers - most are from news channel watchers. Run your OLED light at reasonable levels and that helps too. Outsode of that? Just watch the TV and it'll be fine. Period.



So, for everyone else, which is a large portion of the population - go ahead and get an OLED. Best PQ available. And if your a video hobbyist or movie buff? My goodness....OLED is such an easy choice. There, that should settle it.

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E6 with the AppleTV4K streamer?

If anybody here is running an E6 with the AppleTV4K streamer, I'd appreciate if you could drop me a private note. I don't want to clog the list with this. You can do this by clicking on my screen name at the left, and selecting that option.

I'm having a problem getting the ATV4K to put out REC2020 to the E6 on UHD HDR titles - it just won't do it, insists on REC709 only. If yours does put out REC2020 while playing UHD titles from Netflix, or Amazon, or Disney+, I'd like to know what your video settings on your ATV4K are. The Info button on your LG remote will show REC2020 if it's present, or nothing about color space if it's REC709.

I didn't realize this was an issue until I got an Nvidia Shield Pro last week, and noticed the colors on identical programs were more vivid and the variation of hues more subtle on it. Turns out, the Shield does put out REC2020 to the E6 on UHD content. Both are going through a Denon 4300 to the E6.

Thanks.
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