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So back to the topic of the OLEDs... I'd love to hear your guys go-to movies to show off the 3D capabilities of this TV.

So far I've watched Finding Dory all the way through.

I've popped a few other discs in just for a few minutes each to see how they were:

How to Train Your Dragon 1
How to Train Your Dragon 2
Monster's Inc.
Star Wars The Force Awakens
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Any tips on how to tweak 3D settings?

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I just used my 2D SDR settings as a baseline. I turned on the TV's force 3D settings and put on the glasses while using Spears & Munsil to calibrate and just accordingly. I ended up only making minor adjustments in a couple spots. I think the biggest adjustment I made was raising OLED Light a bit to bring it closer to my 2D light.

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So back to the topic of the OLEDs... I'd love to hear your guys go-to movies to show off the 3D capabilities of this TV.

So far I've watched Finding Dory all the way through.

I've popped a few other discs in just for a few minutes each to see how they were:

How to Train Your Dragon 1
How to Train Your Dragon 2
Monster's Inc.
Star Wars The Force Awakens
Kubo
Tangled
Ghostbusters (2016)
Transformers: Age of Extinction
Gravity
Hobbit Battle of the Five Armies
Prometheus
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Is there a shortcut to changing picture? I'd like to change between isf dark and isf bright only. I didn't see a way to do it in my harmony.

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Hey all, been loving this TV but recently have noticed some unexpected "issues." I say it with quotes because it may not be an issue and simply a source problem. Please take a look at the photos and let me know what you think.

In the first photo, this is from Amazon Prime 4K HDR streaming, a TV show called "Bosch". As good as it looks most of the time, it's still compressed and I suspect that that is the cause of the banding in the sky. The Grand Tour, on the other hand, always looks stunning..., so perhaps this show Bosch wasn't originally intended for 4K HDR and is just an upconversion or something.

*I see that the camera has added some hyperbolic defects, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the banding horizontally across the sky and concentric banding around the lights.*

In the last three photos, this is the 4K HDR transfer of Star Trek Into Darkness..., there is a similar effect around the lights. The only other 4K HDR blu ray that I've watched so far was the most recent Star Trek Beyond, and I don't recall any sort of issues like this. That leads me to suspect that since Into Darkness is an older movie, that this may be an artifact from the transfer to 4k. This was played from the Oppo 203.

Anyway, I just wanted to make sure that there wasn't something that I'm missing in the settings or a problem. Thanks for your time.








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For those of you who have a Samsung K8500 4K Player, make sure the picture mode (under tools while playing movie) is set to user with everything off. I didn't realize this setting existed and it was set to standard.
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So back to the topic of the OLEDs... I'd love to hear your guys go-to movies to show off the 3D capabilities of this TV.
Life of Pi and The Jungle Book are my personal favorites. Filmed with 3D in mind by directors who really understand the technology.
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hey anybody got a good white balance recipe to tone down the yellow/green?

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Anyone else watching The Man in the High Castle and find it extremely dim sometimes? I'm watching the SDR version, so not sure if that matters. I like the show, but I don't really like the way they shot it. It's like they purposely did it just to say, wow, look, we can do HDR....lots of scenes with characters standing in front of bright windows, then a dark scene, then a very bright scene again.
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Hey all, been loving this TV but recently have noticed some unexpected "issues." I say it with quotes because it may not be an issue and simply a source problem. Please take a look at the photos and let me know what you think.

In the first photo, this is from Amazon Prime 4K HDR streaming, a TV show called "Bosch". As good as it looks most of the time, it's still compressed and I suspect that that is the cause of the banding in the sky. The Grand Tour, on the other hand, always looks stunning..., so perhaps this show Bosch wasn't originally intended for 4K HDR and is just an upconversion or something.

*I see that the camera has added some hyperbolic defects, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the banding horizontally across the sky and concentric banding around the lights.*

In the last three photos, this is the 4K HDR transfer of Star Trek Into Darkness..., there is a similar effect around the lights. The only other 4K HDR blu ray that I've watched so far was the most recent Star Trek Beyond, and I don't recall any sort of issues like this. That leads me to suspect that since Into Darkness is an older movie, that this may be an artifact from the transfer to 4k. This was played from the Oppo 203.

Anyway, I just wanted to make sure that there wasn't something that I'm missing in the settings or a problem. Thanks for your time.







There seems to be an issue with denon and marantz receivers dropping down to 8bit. I had to set my oppo 203 to 4:4:4 and 12 bit to get rid of the banding I was getting. I also set my nvidia shield to 4:4:4 and it fixed the issue there as well. Even though the content is not 4:4:4 this still fixed it due to the bug.
As far as amazon goes, since you are having issues with some content and not other I would chock it up to just a poor encode on amazons part.

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There seems to be an issue with denon and marantz receivers dropping down to 8bit. I had to set my oppo 203 to 4:4:4 and 12 bit to get rid of the banding I was getting. I also set my nvidia shield to 4:4:4 and it fixed the issue there as well. Even though the content is not 4:4:4 this still fixed it due to the bug.
don't have the Denon do anything to 4K signals, 1080 and below only.
I could go on an on, but its not worth it.

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don't have the Denon do anything to 4K signals, 1080 and below only.

I could go on an on, but its not worth it.


I don't. Denon is not set to do any processing at all. Setting to 4:4:4 fixed not only 4k bluray banding issues but also banding on 1080 rips.

Discovered on the oppo 203 thread by another poster with a marantz. Same issue. Marantz acknowledged the bug and is working on a fix.

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There is a big difference between seeing a dress a different color to seeing a frame jerk/stutter in a single moment on pans and scene changes. I am of course referring to the 'bug' in motion processing. Not the crappy Trumotion implementation or indeed 24 FPS 'judder' which is natural. I only seem to see it on UK PAL 50i DTV sources and was wondering if anyone else has seen this on NTSC 60i sources.

With 60i you can disable Real Cinema (I have tested using the Rtings 24P video test and a 1 second camera exposure). For 1080 60i/Hz sources disabling Real Cinema causes it to 'fail' as it should.

For 2160P 60i/Hz it fails even with Real Cinema enabled. The workaround is to set Trumotion to enabled and both dejudder and deblur set to '0'. But that is still a fail in my books (and Rtings as well).

The elephant in the room is 50i/Hz.

Real Cinema disabled or enabled makes no difference. It passes the 24P 1 second exposure test whether it is on or off. This to me means that Real Cinema cannot be disabled for UK PAL 50i and 'may' be causing the random stutters I and some others are seeing.

I don't count any content played from streaming 'apps' as they have their own issues that could be muddying the results. Pure broadcast and bluray sources are a must to test this properly. I have no such issues with bluray/PC playback unless I turn on Trumotion since I don't play any 50i media. I do however watch a lot of 50i broadcasts so this is where I see the odd stutter crop up a lot. My best guess is because Real Cinema is not really disabled. Even though it says it is. I have a feeling (purely non-scientific mind) that it sometimes messes up it's algorithm on the source material. One way I have tested is to replay from a live recording onto a hard disk plugged into the TV's USB port. On replay the momentary stutter is no longer there. However if I just play from the hard disk (a few seconds behind the live broadcast) it will stutter at some other place. Again, upon rewinding it, there is no stutter (It's almost like it remembered and corrected it the second time around).

Trying to get LG to respond to this though is like trying to convince a blind man he can see if only he would look hard enough.

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Hey all, been loving this TV but recently have noticed some unexpected "issues." I say it with quotes because it may not be an issue and simply a source problem. Please take a look at the photos and let me know what you think.

In the first photo, this is from Amazon Prime 4K HDR streaming, a TV show called "Bosch". As good as it looks most of the time, it's still compressed and I suspect that that is the cause of the banding in the sky. The Grand Tour, on the other hand, always looks stunning..., so perhaps this show Bosch wasn't originally intended for 4K HDR and is just an upconversion or something.

*I see that the camera has added some hyperbolic defects, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the banding horizontally across the sky and concentric banding around the lights.*

In the last three photos, this is the 4K HDR transfer of Star Trek Into Darkness..., there is a similar effect around the lights. The only other 4K HDR blu ray that I've watched so far was the most recent Star Trek Beyond, and I don't recall any sort of issues like this. That leads me to suspect that since Into Darkness is an older movie, that this may be an artifact from the transfer to 4k. This was played from the Oppo 203.

Anyway, I just wanted to make sure that there wasn't something that I'm missing in the settings or a problem. Thanks for your time.







There seems to be an issue with denon and marantz receivers dropping down to 8bit. I had to set my oppo 203 to 4:4:4 and 12 bit to get rid of the banding I was getting. I also set my nvidia shield to 4:4:4 and it fixed the issue there as well. Even though the content is not 4:4:4 this still fixed it due to the bug.
As far as amazon goes, since you are having issues with some content and not other I would chock it up to just a poor encode on amazons part.

Thank you very much! That cleared up the UHD Blu ray.

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I just used my 2D SDR settings as a baseline. I turned on the TV's force 3D settings and put on the glasses while using Spears & Munsil to calibrate and just accordingly. I ended up only making minor adjustments in a couple spots. I think the biggest adjustment I made was raising OLED Light a bit to bring it closer to my 2D light.
So just use our custom ISF settings with more Oled Light?

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Lower green at the low and high points in 2- point system to about -8

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There is a big difference between seeing a dress a different color to seeing a frame jerk/stutter in a single moment on pans and scene changes. I am of course referring to the 'bug' in motion processing. Not the crappy Trumotion implementation or indeed 24 FPS 'judder' which is natural. I only seem to see it on UK PAL 50i DTV sources and was wondering if anyone else has seen this on NTSC 60i sources.

With 60i you can disable Real Cinema (I have tested using the Rtings 24P video test and a 1 second camera exposure). For 1080 60i/Hz sources disabling Real Cinema causes it to 'fail' as it should.

For 2160P 60i/Hz it fails even with Real Cinema enabled. The workaround is to set Trumotion to enabled and both dejudder and deblur set to '0'. But that is still a fail in my books (and Rtings as well).

The elephant in the room is 50i/Hz.

Real Cinema disabled or enabled makes no difference. It passes the 24P 1 second exposure test whether it is on or off. This to me means that Real Cinema cannot be disabled for UK PAL 50i and 'may' be causing the random stutters I and some others are seeing.

I don't count any content played from streaming 'apps' as they have their own issues that could be muddying the results. Pure broadcast and bluray sources are a must to test this properly. I have no such issues with bluray/PC playback unless I turn on Trumotion since I don't play any 50i media. I do however watch a lot of 50i broadcasts so this is where I see the odd stutter crop up a lot. My best guess is because Real Cinema is not really disabled. Even though it says it is. I have a feeling (purely non-scientific mind) that it sometimes messes up it's algorithm on the source material. One way I have tested is to replay from a live recording onto a hard disk plugged into the TV's USB port. On replay the momentary stutter is no longer there. However if I just play from the hard disk (a few seconds behind the live broadcast) it will stutter at some other place. Again, upon rewinding it, there is no stutter (It's almost like it remembered and corrected it the second time around).

Trying to get LG to respond to this though is like trying to convince a blind man he can see if only he would look hard enough.
Have you looked into getting Sony zd9? I think you'd like it better

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don't have the Denon do anything to 4K signals, 1080 and below only.
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Watched it last night and absolutely love the picture. Turned it on this morning and now I see a vertical line about 1/3rd in, so it has to go back. I didn't think with this technology there would be issues like this. I tried antenna, Firetv and BluRay, it's on all sources. Sure wish I didn't mount it right away.
I didn't see the line last night and didn't see it until after a software update was done this morning.

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Watched it last night and absolutely love the picture. Turned it on this morning and now I see a vertical line about 1/3rd in, so it has to go back. I didn't think with this technology there would be issues like this. I tried antenna, Firetv and BluRay, it's on all sources. Sure wish I didn't mount it right away.
Run the manual compensation cycle. I believe other's have mentioned this a while back.

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Run the manual compensation cycle. I believe other's have mentioned this a while back.
Where do I find the manual compensation cycle? I did some searching and couldn't find anything.

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I found it and I'm running it now, hope it works, so I can avoid the hassle.

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I found it and I'm running it now, hope it works, so I can avoid the hassle.

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I found it and I'm running it now, hope it works, so I can avoid the hassle.

Thanks for the help

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Ran it and the line is still there, very disappointing
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Lower green at the low and high points in 2- point system to about -8

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Could also try the rtings.com settings. On the B6 the subtract a bit of green in low and high on two point will adding a touch of blu and red.
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