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Thanks. Good hint. I just tried it, and while it reveals all the details in the black areas that were crushed before, the picture now looks very washed out. Everything that was black is now grey.
Did you reduce the brightness to normal value, 50 or is it still at 58?
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Did you reduce the brightness to normal value, 50 or is it still at 58?
I reduced that the second after I saw what it did to my picture So it's back to 50. Another thing I just found out (comparing the exact same picture in Plex on Shield with Plex on webOS): The shield has a yellow/orange tint. It's much "warmer" compared to Plex on webOS. Both use the same picture setting though.

I guess the Deep Color on the HDMI input is just not working correctly with the Shield (unless the Shield plays HDR content)?
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Has anyone noticed microscratches/hairline scratches on there TV? I had the Samsung Plasma E7000 prior to this television and I don't believe I've ever come across any scratches on that TV or maybe I'm just looking closer then usual. I did clean the set the other day since my God son decided to touch the screen a few times, since it looks like a oversized phone to him .I used a proper cloth with a Flat Screen Cleaner to clean the screen, not sure if that caused it as I wasn't looking that close before. You can only really see the scratches, that I think are scratches up close in an angle, other then that I can never see them when watching actual content. Maybe I'm just being hyper sensitive about it. But figured I throw it out there...

Note: Sorry if this is off topic, from what is generally posted in this thread. Also If I get my TV Pro calibrated, maybe I can get tips on how best to clean this TV.
The E7000 has a glass panel and is less prone to scratches though you still need to be mindful of the anti glare filter. In your case I guess we don't if the screen had scratches before you cleaned it but yeah, you need to be somewhat careful when cleaning the screen.
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Has anyone noticed microscratches/hairline scratches on there TV? I had the Samsung Plasma E7000 prior to this television and I don't believe I've ever come across any scratches on that TV or maybe I'm just looking closer then usual. I did clean the set the other day since my God son decided to touch the screen a few times, since it looks like a oversized phone to him .I used a proper cloth with a Flat Screen Cleaner to clean the screen, not sure if that caused it as I wasn't looking that close before. You can only really see the scratches, that I think are scratches up close in an angle, other then that I can never see them when watching actual content. Maybe I'm just being hyper sensitive about it. But figured I throw it out there...

Note: Sorry if this is off topic, from what is generally posted in this thread. Also If I get my TV Pro calibrated, maybe I can get tips on how best to clean this TV.
Distilled water and a microfiber towel is what is usually recommended. Distilled water so that it doesn't leave any chemical deposits when it dries and the microfiber towel for something that doesn't setup a lot of friction on the display.
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Try "Grand Tour" on Amazon. My B6 shows it as HDR10. You must change your speaker setting from, internal to internal + Audio Out (Optical) and also in able Simplink.


Hi Cooloregon I tried the internal + hdmi out and also enabled simplink. But that did not help. On my Denon receiver I selected the TV Audio mode. No sound out of the receiver.
I updated LG firmware to latest but looks like this ARC issue has not been resolved yet. How is the ARC working on your B6?


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I'm thinking of upgrading to OLED from Plasma in the future, my main concern is the screen brightness because I prefer to watch movies in a dark room with little to no lighting and Plasmas are perfect for it because they are not too bright. My 2010 Toshiba LCD is old and it's still brighter than my Panasonic ST 60, and it's hard to watch movies on that TV in a dark room. Will an OLED fit the bill or would it just be too bright?
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I'm thinking of upgrading to OLED from Plasma in the future, my main concern is the screen brightness because I prefer to watch movies in a dark room with little to no lighting and Plasmas are perfect for it because they are not too bright. My 2010 Toshiba LCD is old and it's still brighter than my Panasonic ST 60, and it's hard to watch movies on that TV in a dark room. Will an OLED fit the bill or would it just be too bright?
Just turn OLED light to 0.

It will be very dim.
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I'm thinking of upgrading to OLED from Plasma in the future, my main concern is the screen brightness because I prefer to watch movies in a dark room with little to no lighting and Plasmas are perfect for it because they are not too bright. My 2010 Toshiba LCD is old and it's still brighter than my Panasonic ST 60, and it's hard to watch movies on that TV in a dark room. Will an OLED fit the bill or would it just be too bright?
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Just turn OLED light to 0.

It will be very dim.
Maybe not zero but you can reduce the brightness of any set including your Toshiba LCD by lowering backlight, OLED light and/or contrast. There is usually a combination that's optimal as some combinations reduce color depth. For instance, on the B6 OLED, you don't want to reduce contrast below 85, so you'd make up the difference with OLED light.
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Maybe not zero but you can reduce the brightness of any set including your Toshiba LCD by lowering backlight, OLED light and/or contrast. There is usually a combination that's optimal as some combinations reduce color depth. For instance, on the B6 OLED, you don't want to reduce contrast below 85, so you'd make up the difference with OLED light.
So this OLED light is like the backlight of an LCD that reduces panel brightness without affecting the colors/contrast? On my Toshiba I do lower it, but since it's LCD the backlight can't really turn itself off.
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Hi Cooloregon I tried the internal + hdmi out and also enabled simplink. But that did not help. On my Denon receiver I selected the TV Audio mode. No sound out of the receiver.
I updated LG firmware to latest but looks like this ARC issue has not been resolved yet. How is the ARC working on your B6?


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Why would you have to set it to "internal + optical out"? That way sound is playing from both the internal AND the external speakers.
Sorry, this is the setting for LG's OLEDB6s. But I should have said, Audio Out (Optical Out/ HDMI ARC) my bad.

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I'm thinking of upgrading to OLED from Plasma in the future, my main concern is the screen brightness because I prefer to watch movies in a dark room with little to no lighting and Plasmas are perfect for it because they are not too bright. My 2010 Toshiba LCD is old and it's still brighter than my Panasonic ST 60, and it's hard to watch movies on that TV in a dark room. Will an OLED fit the bill or would it just be too bright?
I have mine set to 70 for OLED and 85 for Contrast but. I don't like watching in total dark room, bad for your eyes. when watching HDR10 the B6 setting is 100 for both... I came over from a VT60 by the way.

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Pro-Calibration is not an option at this point. Here in Germany those calibrators want 600 EUR upwards.

Anyway, meanwhile, I nailed it down to the nVidia Shield (plus Plex). When I use the Plex client on webOS the black crush mostly disappears, so it must have something to do with the Shield.

When the Shield is set to 4K output, it disables all other HDMI picture settings and sets them to full dynamic range and 4:2:0 color output. Not sure if that has something to do with it, but it's clear that the Shield output is very dark and crushes blacks massively.

Unfortunately, the Plex client on webOS does not play back any 4K content whatsoever (Plex server has to transcode to 1080p).

Which is a real dilemma for me.
I've watched this same content on the LG's own Netflix app and it looks very good.

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Has anyone noticed microscratches/hairline scratches on there TV? I had the Samsung Plasma E7000 prior to this television and I don't believe I've ever come across any scratches on that TV or maybe I'm just looking closer then usual. I did clean the set the other day since my God son decided to touch the screen a few times, since it looks like a oversized phone to him .I used a proper cloth with a Flat Screen Cleaner to clean the screen, not sure if that caused it as I wasn't looking that close before. You can only really see the scratches, that I think are scratches up close in an angle, other then that I can never see them when watching actual content. Maybe I'm just being hyper sensitive about it. But figured I throw it out there...

Note: Sorry if this is off topic, from what is generally posted in this thread. Also If I get my TV Pro calibrated, maybe I can get tips on how best to clean this TV.
Micro cloth w/plain old water. Please do not use any cleaner.
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Hi all, after using/setting Contrast Patterns you should check also Color Clipping Patterns, there a lot available in the Color Reproduction Session of the disk.

Using a contrast pattern, you are checking this area, in RGB Space:



Using the 7-Color Clipping Bars Pattern to prevent clipping of each color channel (WRGBCMY), this sometimes can be fixed be removing some additionally clicks from the contrast control also, you are checking these areas, in RGB Space:

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I own 65 B6. For some reason when I use wireless to play native apps, Netflix specifically, it rarely ever loads. It gets stuck at 25%, but when I use a wired connection I have no issues. I wall mounted the TV so wire clutter has now become a thing for me. Any help in resolving my crappy wireless on my b6 would be appreciated. My wireless signal from the router is perfect otherwise. All my other devices work flawlessly
Please make sure your router is 802.11ac compliant. The signal might show excellent but, it the bandwidth is whats important. I'm using an Apple AirPort Extreme by the way.

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With all this contrast, brightness and oled light chat, I can't wait for Dolby Vision.

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Was calibrating using this link

Noticed isf 'Black Level' under Picture Options, in both Expert (Bright & Dark) is on 'Auto' and greyed out. Any reason for that? How can I make it a selectable option?

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The one way to tell for sure is load the 0% black image off the AVS download to USB and display it on the tv.




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Hi all, after using/setting Contrast Patterns you should check also Color Clipping Patterns, there a lot available in the Color Reproduction Session of the disk.

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Using the 7-Color Clipping Bars Pattern to prevent clipping of each color channel (WRGBCMY), this sometimes can be fixed be removing some additionally clicks from the contrast control also, you are checking these areas, in RGB Space:

Do you have any advice for Dolby Vision picture settings on content like Netflix in Dolby Vision?

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Do you have any advice for Dolby Vision picture settings on content like Netflix in Dolby Vision?

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Hi, as you have seen LG has disabled the White Balance adjustments in DV mode, there no need to change any OLED/Contrast settings in DV mode since it's following some generic factory pre-calibration decided by their engineers with the default settings it has in DV mode.
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Noticed isf 'Black Level' under Picture Options, in both Expert (Bright & Dark) is on 'Auto' and greyed out. Any reason for that? How can I make it a selectable option?
To make it selectable, use the PC icon for the hdmi port.
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Hi, as you have seen LG has disabled the White Balance adjustments in DV mode, there no need to change any OLED/Contrast settings in DV mode since it's following some generic factory pre-calibration decided by their engineers with the default settings it has in DV mode.
Yes but we can adjust Oled Light, Contrast, Brightness, Color Temp, Colour...Any tips?
I current use DV dark room with:
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Yes but we can adjust Oled Light, Contrast, Brightness, Color Temp, Colour...Any tips?
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Restore OLED/Contrast to 100, brightness @ 50, Warm 2, All enhancements off.

When you increase Brightness in HDR mode, it's undersaturating the saturations (removes color) of low luminance colors (dark shades of colors).
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Restore OLED/Contrast to 100, brightness @ 50, Warm 2, All enhancements off.

When you increase Brightness in HDR mode, it's undersaturating the saturations (removes color) of low luminance colors (dark shades of colors).
Does reducing oled/contrast from 100 also remove color from DV?
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Does reducing oled/contrast from 100 also remove color from DV?
No, but you are making you display less accurate for DV reproduction when you changing the values the TV has been prepared for DV mode from it's engineers.

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Restore OLED/Contrast to 100, brightness @ 50, Warm 2, All enhancements off.

When you increase Brightness in HDR mode, it's undersaturating the saturations (removes color) of low luminance colors (dark shades of colors).
Should you use oled light at 100 on DV?Default it is 50.

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Should you use oled light at 100 on DV?Default it is 50.

Sent fra min Lenovo TAB 2 A10-70F via Tapatalk
In EU E6, the default is 100.

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