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I use this https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=4730. I have 2 of them. One is connected to my TV and the other is connected to my computer which doubles as my DVR/PVR. Each are in separate rooms and are mounted inside. I am in the 30-35 mile range from the various broadcast towers. I get a total of 21 channels spread over FOX, CBS, NBC, CW, PBS and 2 independent stations.
Very nice and good price, I may just purchase this, I'm already at the monoprice site, as I'm thinking I may change all my hdmi cables for these https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_...format=2&res=1
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i was reading the front page article on the avsforum main page and it went on about how curved and 3D tv's were dropped for the most part from 2017 models. unless it has some kind of unlikely revival, are these C6's going to hold their value more than other TV's? i feel as if the 2016 OLED models isn't enough to make these models hold their value, having exclusive features that other tv's don't have makes this C6 a special treat. almost like owning an timeless artifact in 5-6 years time. am i the only one who feels this way? lol
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i was reading the front page article on the avsforum main page and it went on about how curved and 3D tv's were dropped for the most part from 2017 models. unless it has some kind of unlikely revival, are these C6's going to hold their value more than other TV's? i feel as if the 2016 OLED models isn't enough to make these models hold their value, having exclusive features that other tv's don't have makes this C6 a special treat. almost like owning an timeless artifact in 5-6 years time. am i the only one who feels this way? lol
They might be hard to come by in 6 months time as they sell out the stock but forget about a TV holding its value. Well maybe the Pioneer Kuro did for awhile because it attained legendary status but most will depreciate fast as each year goes on and new technologies/features emerge. I DO want a C6 myself before all the 3D TVs are gone.
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Man i just got done watching Pacific Rim 4k HDR bluray on the Oled and WOW just WOW.... the colors just popped off the screen so beautifully. Also watched Bram Stockers Dracula bluray and a Very good movie to test the black levels on the Oled, looked very nice in my dark room. How much nits of brightness does the b6 have? 640? i know the rest of the competition has 1000nits would that mean the HDR pops more on their screen? because it popped really nice on the oled not being 1000. also does anyone know if the 2017 sets are going to be brighter(hdr pop)?
Yes some say that 640-750 but the advantage is the Oled contrast and blacks leves that compensate the lack of nits, and Lg promises 1000 nits (25% increase) on 2017 models
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Yes some say that 640-750 but the advantage is the Oled contrast and blacks leves that compensate the lack of nits, and Lg promises 1000 nits (25% increase) on 2017 models

This is what people forget when they just say LCD can go brighter.
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Does anyone else have curved buyer's remorse? I have an great room connected to my kitchen.... Every time I see a my lights stretched across the screen I get stomach pains =( I love the design and picture quality (aside from some jitter on the action sequences). It doesn't help that curved gets tons of ridicule across the interweb.

On another note, I have a very old Receiver with no HDMI. I am currently in the middle of upgrading the sound system. Any issues with running the sound through my OLED65C6P and going optical to the receiver? I am thinking upgrading speakers first will give me the best bang for the buck. My Rythmik FV15HP is coming soon =))))
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Can you elaborate why we can't talk about it?
The other improvements aren't documented and are subjective. That seems to get a lot of people on this forum in a twist. I do suggest you upgrade though.
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OK, guys. I know I was pretty PO'd after my experience with the 65" B6, but so many people have said the 55" panels are much better, my curiosity for the best of me. I bought a 55" C6, and from my preliminary checks, I don't see any vignetting at all My living room isn't very dark now, so it's hard to judge uniformity/banding, but even that looks pretty good. Keeping my fingers crossed. The drop down in size from 65" to 55" is noticeable, but I think it'll be worth it for the better PQ. Even though my LED TV has reasonably good blacks, it was hard to watch after experiencing pitch black.
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OK, guys. I know I was pretty PO'd after my experience with the 65" B6, but so many people have said the 55" panels are much better, my curiosity for the best of me. I bought a 55" C6, and from my preliminary checks, I don't see any vignetting at all My living room isn't very dark now, so it's hard to judge uniformity/banding, but even that looks pretty good. Keeping my fingers crossed. The drop down in size from 65" to 55" is noticeable, but I think it'll be worth it for the better PQ. Even though my LED TV has reasonably good blacks, it was hard to watch after experiencing pitch black.
Black is best: cool:I bet you will be happier with C6 55 inch.I have no vignetting on my B6 55 inch.happy viewing
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They might be hard to come by in 6 months time as they sell out the stock but forget about a TV holding its value. Well maybe the Pioneer Kuro did for awhile because it attained legendary status but most will depreciate fast as each year goes on and new technologies/features emerge. I DO want a C6 myself before all the 3D TVs are gone.
The Pioneer Kuro is special though, at that time no other TV had that picture, as many have said including audio/video experts the B,C,E, and G have about the exact same picture quality so the curve will probably not holds its value any better than any other set. Want a TV to hold value, add a extended warranty to it, then that used TV still has a warranty......big selling point.
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Does anyone else have curved buyer's remorse? I have an great room connected to my kitchen.... Every time I see a my lights stretched across the screen I get stomach pains =( I love the design and picture quality (aside from some jitter on the action sequences). It doesn't help that curved gets tons of ridicule across the interweb. snip
None here. I didn't want the curved model but wanted the 3d and cheaper price on the unit at the time. Glad I got the 3d because I was stunned at the quality....blown away and I have other 3d displays. I had mine on the stand and did not like the reflections that I could do nothing about. Got a full articulating turning tilting mount at Harbor Freight and now the proper downward tilt and angle all but eliminates that. As for the curve it has actually grown on me and I don't care what others think about a curved display. What I think is what matters and I came to like it.
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I'm about to purchase the the OLED55C6P and have a few questions about proper connectivity. My setup is:


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Do I run all 3 sources to the TV via HDMI or directly to the receiver? How do I use ARC and HDMI-CEC in this scenario? I want to make sure that when I view one of the OTT apps like Netflix or Amazon Video that the receiver will automatically switch audio to that source. Do I need to run an optical Audie cable from the OLED to the receiver?

Any feedback would be a tremendous help to me as I incorporate the new OLED set.
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Can anyone advise on HDR Settings for the B6? If I use HDR Standard and leave the color range setting on wide, then everyone looks like they have sunburn. Color set to Normal looks fine. Is that recommended, or am I missing something?
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None here. I didn't want the curved model but wanted the 3d and cheaper price on the unit at the time. Glad I got the 3d because I was stunned at the quality....blown away and I have other 3d displays. I had mine on the stand and did not like the reflections that I could do nothing about. Got a full articulating turning tilting mount at Harbor Freight and now the proper downward tilt and angle all but eliminates that. As for the curve it has actually grown on me and I don't care what others think about a curved display. What I think is what matters and I came to like it.
I was a little worried about a curved display, but I just got a C6 and it's not an issue at all. In fact, it looks kinda cool. It's a very subtle curve. I could see reflections being an issue for some, but I watch in the dark, so no worries there.
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I'm about to purchase the the OLED55C6P and have a few questions about proper connectivity. My setup is:


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-- TDS TV (fiber cable) with HDMI out
-- Apple TV 4th Gen with HDMI out
-- Oppo Blu ray player with HDMI out

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Any feedback would be a tremendous help to me as I incorporate the new OLED set.

Run everything into the receiver then run one HDMI from the receiver to the TV. I'm no help with ARC or CEC as ARC is flaky in my experience, and I'd rather control the devices via a programmable Harmony remote. You'll need to run an optical or coax from the TV to the receiver with this setup, in order to use the TV's apps or watch OTA. . You can program all the input/output switching into the remote.
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Can anyone advise on HDR Settings for the B6? If I use HDR Standard and leave the color range setting on wide, then everyone looks like they have sunburn. Color set to Normal looks fine. Is that recommended, or am I missing something?
My understanding is that for HDR, color range Normal is the correct one (ie Normal reflects the wider color gamut).
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Thanks! Then I just have to figure out whether I need to change anything else, and then I can return to just enjoying the show... ?
I just got an Nvidia Shield TV, and ti runs incredibly well, including HDR, sadly no DV though. It also supports Dolby Atmos and DTS:X, now I just need Amazon and Netflix to support Atmos and/or DTS:X... ?
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My understanding is that for HDR, color range Normal is the correct one (ie Normal reflects the wider color gamut).
"Normal" is the correct setting. The set automatically sets the correct color gamut when changing from SDR to HDR.

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Can anyone advise on HDR Settings for the B6? If I use HDR Standard and leave the color range setting on wide, then everyone looks like they have sunburn. Color set to Normal looks fine. Is that recommended, or am I missing something?
Hi, in HDR mode, about Normal vs. Wide, both will provide the same (native primaries) gamut coverage, the largest the TV can display, but the problem is that in Wide it's boosting the lower saturation levels (make them more saturated), so for HDR the Normal is the only correct settings.

For SDR. Wide Gamut option is only helpful when you use the LG in post production for SDR @ ISF mode to calibrate for DCI-P3 or use eeColor for 3D LUT with 65-Point Cube (or other processors with smaller cube size) bypassing LG's poor CMS controls to perform 3D LUT display profiling.

In SDR mode, Normal will provide a slight oversaturated REC.709 coverage while Wide will provide the largest possible (native) so it will oversaturate a lot the colors if you watching HD/Full HD content (blu-ray/sat/cable etc..) which use REC.709. In SDR mode the Normal is the correct setting also.

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Mine has a slight wave to it, never noticed until tonight, picture looks normal- probably had too much force applied when unboxing or moving.
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Yes some say that 640-750 but the advantage is the Oled contrast and blacks leves that compensate the lack of nits, and Lg promises 1000 nits (25% increase) on 2017 models
Hi, upcoming LG 2017 models will be able to reach 1000nits in Vivid mode with 5% Window pattern and about 800nits with 10% Window Pattern, from color fidelity side of view, I don't care so much about what they can do in Vidid mode (which is for stores) but how much nits can give calibrated.
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Run everything into the receiver then run one HDMI from the receiver to the TV. I'm no help with ARC or CEC as ARC is flaky in my experience, and I'd rather control the devices via a programmable Harmony remote. You'll need to run an optical or coax from the TV to the receiver with this setup, in order to use the TV's apps or watch OTA. . You can program all the input/output switching into the remote.
Thanks! I do have a Harmony Smart Control remote.
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For you C6 owners: How high are you able to push your brightness setting while still keeping perfect black? On my B6, I had to switch to gamma 2.2 because I could only raise brightness to 51 and there was still too much crush. On this set, I can go all the way to 53 before I see black parts of the screen light up, but I decided to stick with 52 to play it safe. There is still just a tad of crush, but it looks very reasonable. On top of that, I can use the preferred BT.1886 setting
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Does anyone know what settings I should be using with an XBox One S connected to my C6P? Searching around hasn't shown anything recent and I'm not very adept at understanding most of this. Getting the TV calibrated later this month but for now just want to watch UHD Blu-Rays.
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For you C6 owners: How high are you able to push your brightness setting while still keeping perfect black? On my B6, I had to switch to gamma 2.2 because I could only raise brightness to 51 and there was still too much crush. On this set, I can go all the way to 53 before I see black parts of the screen light up, but I decided to stick with 52 to play it safe. There is still just a tad of crush, but it looks very reasonable. On top of that, I can use the preferred BT.1886 setting
On my B6, I go back and forth between 51 and 53 depending on gamma selected.....and I don't remember which way it goes.
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On my B6, I go back and forth between 51 and 53 depending on gamma selected.....and I don't remember which way it goes.
Thanks. So far, 52 is working well. The C6 does seem to have a bit more leeway on the brightness controls compared to the B6 I tried
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When displaying dark content, the lower right part of my 55" B6 will sometimes look very grayish. This doesn't happen all of the time and I'm trying to figure out if it's a certain source that this happens on more than others.

Anyone else have a similar issue?
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