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What menu are the True motion settings under?
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Another motion issue...on channels with tickers (CNN, NFL Network etc.), the ticker stutters or blurs regularly. Anyone else see this?
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Another motion issue...on channels with tickers (CNN, NFL Network etc.), the ticker stutters or blurs regularly. Anyone else see this?
on my e6, tickers are very smooth if you disable trumotion and real cinema.
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on my e6, tickers are very smooth if you disable trumotion and real cinema.


Thanks. I'll have to check if real cinema is on.maybe real cinema is causing a bunch of my motion issues. I hope so.
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Thanks. I'll have to check if real cinema is on.maybe real cinema is causing a bunch of my motion issues. I hope so.
if you disable all motion enhancements and still have issues, you might try resetting your cable box and/or tv. one other thing: if you have access to an external upscaler (e.g. an AVR), try converting your 1080i signal to 1080p and see if that makes a difference.
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Another motion issue...on channels with tickers (CNN, NFL Network etc.), the ticker stutters or blurs regularly. Anyone else see this?
Very smooth on my B6.
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How is the vertical banding on the B6?My current Samsung F8000 shows vertical bands when panning over ie. a soccer field, and I notice it all the time.
Yep, no panel is perfect that is for sure......
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Very smooth on my B6.


You have trumotion off? Is real cinema even an option under the ISF modes? I'm not home to check.
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Hey guys I just got my C6 and ran some test slides that was linked earlier in the thread, everything looks excellent!, I plan on uploading a few of the pics later when I get off from work as I did all of this on my lunch. There is one problem I'm having and I'm not sure if it's a specific setting or if it's the TV panel, when I test the 1% near black slide everything looks OK except for the bottom portion which kind of flickers and it's easily noticeable to my eyes but I can't capture it on my camera. It only seems to do this and vivid and standard mode, all the other modes seems to stay pretty much uniform and fine. Is this normal?
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I get a lot of stuttering on certain channels on DirecTV and none on others. I turned on Avatar on FX just to check out the pq and it was stuttering a lot. When I turned dejudder off from 2 where it was at then it stopped. I think I saw an explanation for this in one of the threads recently but can anyone explain what the issue is? I can turn dejudder all the way up on blu ray and it works as intended. I see no frame skipping or stuttering on blu ray. The other source I consistently see it on is streaming from non 4K sources. I was watching Silicon Valley on HBO GO from the Xbox One and it was stuttering. Then I watched the same episode on HBO On Demand and it was fine. When I get the stuttering on streaming sources, I can't stop it no matter what my motion settings are and it's not any certain panning or movement that makes it happen. Any help would be greatly appreciated. This is my biggest problem with tv's because I had zero issues on my Sony that I'm coming from and it seems like every other manufacturer just can't get it right.
I had the same issue with my Sony 950b using my Roku 4. Nothing worked to remedy the situation except unplugging the Roku 4 and plugging it back in. I never experienced this issue while using native apps.
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Sorry to post again so soon but if possible could someone run that 1% near black in stock standard mode and see if the flickering I'm experiencing is normal or not? I just want to know now so if I need to schedule an exchange I can sooner rather than later. I'm hoping its normal since the other slides look damn near perfect to me lol.
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You have trumotion off? Is real cinema even an option under the ISF modes? I'm not home to check.
TruMotion is off. I'm out too, but if real cinema were an option, I'd turn it off.
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I'm going to BB today to pick up the B6. I'll report back with my experience with the motion.
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2,10 but it could 1,10 or 4,10. I have no issues with blu ray playback regardless.


Can you do me a favor and tell me exactly what HDMI cable you are using, and what input on the TV?


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Interesting to hear that.


Myself and one other on AV Forums have been complaining of Micro Stutter, but specifically on UHD 4K HDR @ 24fps.


Is it a UHD disc of the Martian you were referring to?


To be clear, not talking 24fps judder, but a twitch or a skip in frames.


No one else either seems to be noticing it or experiencing it. (I have tried both Sammy and Panny UHD players - but same on both).


I have logged a call with LG and they are sending an engineer out, probably with a new system board.


I believe actually there is potentially a processing bug in the enforced HDR modes, but it could be processing issues.


One easy place to spot is the opening scene in The Martian while the slowly pans across the rocks and landscape.

Don't seem to have the same issue with DV though either.


I see the same exact thing on UHD discs. Can you keep me updated on what happens with the technician? I might do the same.


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Can you do me a favor and tell me exactly what HDMI cable you are using, and what input on the TV?


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I'm just using a cheap HDMI cable from Monoprice and I'm on HDMI 3 using Xbox One for blu ray playback.
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I'm just using a cheap HDMI cable from Monoprice and I'm on HDMI 3 using Xbox One for blu ray playback.


Ah, it only happens for me on UHD discs.


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I just went to BB again today and they are now playing AVATAR on the B6 instead of demo material. All I can say is WOW! If this tv looks THAT good in BB store lighting without any calibration I cannot imagine what it must look like at home properly set up. The settings were probably torch mode and at times it didn't always look good but it wasn't hard to see past that. The picture looks 3D just like my Kuro, something I hardly ever see on LCD. The level of detail was great and it was obviously just the standard HD BR so I can't imagine what UHD BR must looks like. It will probably be a long time before I get a chance to experience that myself though

The price for the 55 is now $2700, truly awesome and I should be able to get this early next year. I noticed they had the 9100 still, they threw it way in the back somewhere and I found it. It doesn't looks as impressive as it once did after seeing these ones. One thing I have noticed every time I have seen OLED is the blue always seems really impressive and awesome looking. Has anyone else been particularly impressed with OLED blues or is it just me?
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If it matters, I had issues at first when running a PC at 4K 60Hz with 4:4:4. Running with 4:2:0 was just fine. I would get some artifacts and strange stuff when in 4:4:4. I could do it fine as well at 30Hz. Turned out to be a bad HDMI cable. I swapped the cable with another Amazon Basics (any cable that certified should be fine, so I dont feel the need to buy expensive cables) HDMI cable and the issue went away. I plug into a receiver which then goes to HDMI 2 on the TV for the ARC.
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Not sure if this has been posted yet, but Steve Withers from Avforums posted his C6 review.

The comments section are very interesting because he answers all questions.

But he basically confirmed what alot of us have correctly theorized. He says "LG says there will be a great variance in brightness between panels". So basically you could get one with 600 nits peak or up 790 peak nits. It's basically lottery it sounds like. At my best buy, the b6 is noticeably brighter than the c6,but I didn't check the settings to see if they were maxed out on both. Best buy is so picky about messing with settings unless your in a magnolia showroom it seems.


https://www.avforums.com/review/lg-c...v-review.12713
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Yeah, I've been reading about that a lot on the avforums B6 thread. That's concerning. I don't have a 4K player yet but will probably get the Xbox one S soon if I keep the B6.
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Not sure if this has been posted yet, but Steve Withers from Avforums posted his C6 review.

The comments section are very interesting because he answers all questions.

But he basically confirmed what alot of us have correctly theorized. He says "LG says there will be a great variance in brightness between panels". So basically you could get one with 600 nits peak or up 790 peak nits. It's basically lottery it sounds like. At my best buy, the b6 is noticeably brighter than the c6,but I didn't check the settings to see if they were maxed out on both. Best buy is so picky about messing with settings unless your in a magnolia showroom it seems.


https://www.avforums.com/review/lg-c...v-review.12713
He comes up with findings, some of which fly in the face of experience of actual owners:

* I can attest to the fact that LG has not eliminated vignetting. Mine has some, although it is not visible in the overwhelming majority of content. But it's clearly there with a 5% slide. Others have posted pix of some vignetting.

* He claims that off-axis viewing is excellent and he could watch from 'extreme angles' without sacrificing color accuracy. It seems some here disagree with that. I posted pix that show it's very good, if not excellent.

* I agree about the panel lottery. I have long claimed that any PQ differences people 'think' exist between 2016 models are greatly exceeded by sample to sample variations within the same model line. What you're saying he claims with brightness is such an example. I find mine to be extremely bright, although I have no idea how it actually measures.
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Not sure if this has been posted yet, but Steve Withers from Avforums posted his C6 review.

The comments section are very interesting because he answers all questions.

But he basically confirmed what alot of us have correctly theorized. He says "LG says there will be a great variance in brightness between panels". So basically you could get one with 600 nits peak or up 790 peak nits. It's basically lottery it sounds like. At my best buy, the b6 is noticeably brighter than the c6,but I didn't check the settings to see if they were maxed out on both. Best buy is so picky about messing with settings unless your in a magnolia showroom it seems.


https://www.avforums.com/review/lg-c...v-review.12713
So brightness doesn't vary between different models or between 65 and 55 inch but it's just a lottery from panel to panel? That is kind of annoying. In my experience (which isn't much but I've seen the 55 B6 twice, the 55 E6 twice, the 65E6 once, and once for the 65G6) all models I've seen across 3 different Best Buys all looked about the same in brightness except for the G6 which looked nearly as bright as the x940c next to it. They all looked noticeably brighter than any of the 2015 models.

As time goes on I guess we will find out more and more about the differences in brightness and hopefully maybe we will find some reliable correlations like certain build dates being brighter than others or something like that. Time will tell. What did the 2015 OLED's peak in brightness and did they vary from panel to panel or were they consistent??
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I love reading the positive comments regarding Dolby Vision. I am very impressed with Dolby Vision so far and very glad LG includes it. Now if we could just get a high bitrate UHD disc with Dolby Vision!
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Not sure if this has been posted yet, but Steve Withers from Avforums posted his C6 review.

The comments section are very interesting because he answers all questions.

But he basically confirmed what alot of us have correctly theorized. He says "LG says there will be a great variance in brightness between panels". So basically you could get one with 600 nits peak or up 790 peak nits. It's basically lottery it sounds like. At my best buy, the b6 is noticeably brighter than the c6,but I didn't check the settings to see if they were maxed out on both. Best buy is so picky about
messing with settings unless your in a magnolia showroom it seems.

https://www.avforums.com/review/lg-c...v-review.12713
I feel as though this would be a QC concern as if it's that large of a difference in nits (~200), it WILL directly affect your HDR experience.
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I feel as though this would be a QC concern as if it's that large of a difference in nits (~200), it WILL directly affect your HDR experience.
I agree, hdr performance will certainly be different on an oled at 580 nits compared to an oled with 780 nits. The fact that LG acknowledges these sets will have "great varience" is odd. I'm wondering what is causing the variance. If you read the c6 review, Withers was disappointed overall with the hdr performance compared to the bright lcds he's reviewed recently. 700 should be the absolute minimum these oleds are putting out.
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I'm not sure where it was that LG acknowledged there would be 'great variance' in light output from panel to panel. Does anyone have a link to this statement?
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I'm not sure where it was that LG acknowledged there would be 'great variance' in light output from panel to panel. Does anyone have a link to this statement?

Its a quote from Steve Withers, im assuming lg told him this directly. But we can ask him to make sure.
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Its a quote from Steve Withers, im assuming lg told him this directly. But we can ask him to make sure.
Ray, if you think about it, even if it were true (and I'm not convinced it is), it's hard to believe that LG would come right out and say it. It would create a wide open door for rampant exchanges.

Aside from that, I don't think we've ever really heard this statement before, so I'm a bit dubious.
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The TV didn't fit in my car (it's a rental car and I mistakingly assumed both back seats would fold down...stupid Altima). Look's like I'll have to wait until Sunday when my father with an SUV is around to give the B6 a try. It's going to be a long week.

If i'm able to find a Best Buy near me that has a 2016 OLED hooked up to Kaleidescape, what is a good movie and scene to test the motion out?
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