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Can someone please post their nighttime picture settings for the C6? I tried the ones on this site but they seem kind of dull to me. Also curious on 3D settings as I haven't seen those anywhere. Thanks
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For anyone considering one of these TVs who watches OTA broadcast TV in North America, I'm quite impressed with the quality of the tuner in my B6. I'm far less likely to see signal glitches or break-ups (likely due to multipath interference) using its built-in tuner than I am using the tuners in my TiVo Roamio or in my old 2008 model Samsung TV.

OTOH, the LG tuner seems to be a bit less likely to display very weak signals. There are a couple of low-power stations that, with great effort in terms of antenna positioning, I can tune in with other tuners, although still with glitches; I can't tune them in at all with the LG's tuner. But I don't really care anyhow. Far more important to me is that I get way more reliable reception on all the local high-power stations, even when it's windy.
Agree on the B6 tuner. When it locks on to a signal, even if marginal, it displays the signal without any dropout or pixelation.
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You'll both be happy to know that I'll be going with the 65-inch model.
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I did have a couple more questions, for anyone that would be willing to answer:

1.) How is the motion on this set? I know there were issues that were patched during a firmware update some time ago, but has it resolved those issues entirely?
I'm going from a Plasma to an OLED, so motion is a pretty important thing for me when it comes to films, but admittedly not a deal breaker as long as the judder/blur is tolerable, and not overbearing.
I also came from a high end plasma into the 65B6P ... Motion is great, no judder or blur on my panel. Others have reported slight motion blur. Some say its in the eye of the beholder, an optical illusion... others say its because they failed to update their set to the latest firmware and/or they haven't set it up correctly. FYI: Your best bet is to start with these settings:

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2.) How does HDR look with this set? Black levels and viewing angles are very important to me, so that's why I could never opt for an LCD panel, regardless of how much improved local dimming has become on those sets. They're still edge-lit, which is an inherent issue for me. However, I know that they can get brighter. Even though the 2016 LG OLED sets can't reach 1,000-nits, is the performance of this set when it comes to HDR content still better than adequate?
HDR is amazing... as are the awesome black levels. Better than adequate? Absolutely!
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3.) Can I calibrate this set right out of the box, or do I have to have a break-in period, similar to that of Plasmas?
Not ideally. For starters, SpaceDave provided great advice about waiting until after the infancy period. No sense paying for a calibration only to have the set fail shortly afterwards. That said, several calibrators in this forum have said to wait at least 200 hours, others have said to wait as long as long as 300 hours. If your panel is anything like mine, the picture is so great you start to question if you even want to spend the money to have it calibrated. Its not like its painful to watch waiting for 100 hours to pass. In other words, you can easily live with it for hundreds of hours just the way it is when it comes out of the box. No reason to jump on calibration right away.
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I am only going to say this once so........... listen up.


If you haven't seen the 4k HDR demos from YouTube you have no idea what your display is capable of.
I purchased a Chromecast Ultra and installed it yesterday.
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If you haven't seen the 4k HDR demos from YouTube you have no idea what your display is capable of.

I purchased a Chromecast Ultra and installed it yesterday.

Oh for the Love of whoever you worship!!!!

It will be the best $65.00 you will spend.


I had a Chromecast ultra when it came out. The youtube demos were nice but I ultimately had to return it. It had too many issues and several promised features were missing. And I didn't really need it. I have other Chromecasts that I don't use. This one was just a novelty.

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I had a Chromecast ultra when it came out. The youtube demos were nice but I ultimately had to return it. It had too many issues and several promised features were missing. And I didn't really need it. I have other Chromecasts that I don't use. This one was just a novelty.
I am speaking only in reference to the YouTube 4k demos.
Not trying to pimp the Chromecast or it's plusses and minuses.

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I think you can safely leave the color settings on this TV at their defaults...they're pretty good right out of the box.
No, they are not!
it's too green.. I've tried balancing that using Rtings settings and now it has a pink\red color tone.. Depending on the scene it's very noticeable
Game mode is also very green and it cannot be calibrated
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No, they are not!
it's too green.. I've tried balancing that using Rtings settings and now it has a pink\red color tone.. Depending on the scene it's very noticeable
Game mode is also very green and it cannot be calibrated
Too green?

Hum never heard that one.

Game mode is ugly. I only use it if I really need very low input lag. Otherwise I game using expert Dark room.
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Hey guys,


I wanted to give an update. My first 65 C series had about 10 - 14 dead pixels. 2 of them were side by side dead center of the screen. I told BB about this and they replaced my set.


I received my second set on Monday. On this one I have noticed:
a. This one has maybe 3-5 dead pixels but I think I can live with them.
b. This new set has a vertical band almost dead center.
c. The first set had a better picture out of the box.


I "tried" to get a couple of pictures. Please let me know your thoughts.
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I am only going to say this once so........... listen up.


If you haven't seen the 4k HDR demos from YouTube you have no idea what your display is capable of.
I purchased a Chromecast Ultra and installed it yesterday.
Oh for the Love of whoever you worship!!!!
It will be the best $65.00 you will spend.
Is there a difference between the TV's own YouTube app vs. what the Chromecast can do with YouTube?
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Hey guys,


I wanted to give an update. My first 65 C series had about 10 - 14 dead pixels. 2 of them were side by side dead center of the screen. I told BB about this and they replaced my set.


I received my second set on Monday. On this one I have noticed:
a. This one has maybe 3-5 dead pixels but I think I can live with them.
b. This new set has a vertical band almost dead center.
c. The first set had a better picture out of the box.


I "tried" to get a couple of pictures. Please let me know your thoughts.
Mine had similar banding but I ran 3 manual 1 hour compressions and it cleared most of it up. I can now only notice it on 5% testing and it's much lighter.
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Is there a difference between the TV's own YouTube app vs. what the Chromecast can do with YouTube?


Yeah the chrome cast can do HDR. The internal YouTube app on the tv cannot.


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Can someone please post their nighttime picture settings for the C6? I tried the ones on this site but they seem kind of dull to me. Also curious on 3D settings as I haven't seen those anywhere. Thanks
Do you guys find the warm2 temp makes whites look to yellowish?
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Do you guys find the warm2 temp makes whites look to yellowish?
Thats a common observation, accurate white differs from.a bluer brighter white that most folks are used to. Try warm1 if you don't adapt to it.

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Mine had similar banding but I ran 3 manual 1 hour compressions and it cleared most of it up. I can now only notice it on 5% testing and it's much lighter.


Thanks, Are you talking about the ( I think it's called) pixel clean (or something like that). You turn your set off for an hour and it cleans itself?


Note: I have already done that once but I will do it again.


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Thanks, Are you talking about the ( I think it's called) pixel clean (or something like that). You turn your set off for an hour and it cleans itself?


Note: I have already done that once but I will do it again.


Here is a better pic. (I think)
Yes, run that a few times and retest after each one. It helped my 55C6 dramatically.
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Does any B6 owner have an issue displaying jpeg files in their full native resolution?

I have a B6 connected to a NAS via Ethernet. The NAS (QNAP) stores the jpegs.

When I navigate to jpeg folders via Web OS 2.0 "Photo & Video", I can see the files in thumbnail arranged side-by-side at the bottom of the screen but when I select any image the result is a much lower resolution output (400x534). I think it's displaying the thumbnail and not the source file at its native size/resolution because the B6 generates a new file name (appearing underneath the original file name) "NaNundefined 400x534". See attached photo. The native size of that photo is 4000x6000.

B6 firmware is current. The NAS is enabled for DLNA, UP&P, etc. and clearly the B6 has network access to the NAS folders. What's more, I had no issues getting access to these jpegs at original size via a Panny 900. An OPPO 203 can also display full resolution images from the NAS. LG Level One Support (off shore) apparently do not understand the issue despite my efforts to communicate the situation as clearly as possible.

Has anyone else encountered and fixed this issue?
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Thats a common observation, accurate white differs from.a bluer brighter white that most folks are used to. Try warm1 if you don't adapt to it.

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Ah okay thanks, I think I will settle on warm1. I notice when watching college basketball on ESPN warm2 makes everything look to yellowish. I tried using the recommended setting posted on this sites review but they just aren't working for me.
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Ah okay thanks, I think I will settle on warm1. I notice when watching college basketball on ESPN warm2 makes everything look to yellowish. I tried using the recommended setting posted on this sites review but they just aren't working for me.
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Is it normal to occasionally see gradient banding in sky shots of (supposed) good source material?

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Yes, run that a few times and retest after each one. It helped my 55C6 dramatically.
I can't find any "pixel clean" option in my settings for my 65c6, are you referring to the "clear panel noise" option under the "OLED Panel Settings" tab?
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I can't find any "pixel clean" option in my settings for my 65c6, are you referring to the "clear panel noise" option under the "OLED Panel Settings" tab?
Yup that's it.
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I am only going to say this once so........... listen up.


If you haven't seen the 4k HDR demos from YouTube you have no idea what your display is capable of.
I purchased a Chromecast Ultra and installed it yesterday.
Oh for the Love of whoever you worship!!!!
It will be the best $65.00 you will spend.
But for no money you can get a youtube downloader and use ffmpeg to convert the VP9 Profile 2 into HEVC HDR :-). (Actually I haven't tried in a while, there were ffmpeg bugs the first time, but they are probably fixed now).
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Is there a difference between the TV's own YouTube app vs. what the Chromecast can do with YouTube?
Yep. LG had a press release saying they were going to support HDR youtube on their OLED TV sometime last year, but it never happened and the LG youtube app can't do HDR (in fact, I've never gotten it to do 4K either even without HDR).
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But for no money you can get a youtube downloader and use ffmpeg to convert the VP9 Profile 2 into HEVC HDR :-). (Actually I haven't tried in a while, there were ffmpeg bugs the first time, but they are probably fixed now).

Most of the HDR tech demos made by Samsung, LG, etc on YouTube can be downloaded directly and played back in something like Kodi running on an Nvidia Shield. HDR mode kicks in for me when I play these files.

Example: http://demo-uhd3d.com/fiche.php?cat=uhd&id=145

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Hey guys,

I have 65B6 and lately YouTube will not play 4K content in HD. I have gone in the settings menu to delete cookies number of times, but still the same result. Also, just to point out i have 75Mbps speed, so am positive speed is not the issue ( Amazon and Netflix do play Ultra HD content just fine ).

My second question - my set would not play MPEG4 videos from GoPro Hero4 Black. I have a dedicated external HD and some of my older MPEG4s would play ( recorder with non GoPro devices ). Has anyone have a fix for this issue?

Any help here?
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Hey guys,

I have 65B6 and lately YouTube will not play 4K content in HD. I have gone in the settings menu to delete cookies number of times, but still the same result. Also, just to point out i have 75Mbps speed, so am positive speed is not the issue ( Amazon and Netflix do play Ultra HD content just fine ).

My second question - my set would not play MPEG4 videos from GoPro Hero4 Black. I have a dedicated external HD and some of my older MPEG4s would play ( recorder with non GoPro devices ). Has anyone have a fix for this issue?

Any help here?
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Anyone seen screen picture tearing on a B6 or other LG OLED TVs?

I have had my TV less than month. I had a Samsung KS800D before that. I watched about 20 4K HDR discs on the KS800D wih my Samsung UHD player. I never saw any tearing. I have watched 2 other 4K HDR movies on my B6 so far and neitehr showed any tearing. Last night I watched Suicide Squad, on 4K HDR disc, for the first time )so no experience with that film/disc.) I saw tearing twice. The screen was split horizontally about 1/3 up the screen. Each side was roughly the same scene, so I do not know if one side of the split was several frames ahead or behind but that is the only assumption I make. I paused and backed up, but the tearing did not happen, so I cannot reproduce it.

I was using the same Samsung UHD player that I had used previously with my new B6 and when I had the KS800D. Also, it goes through my Denon receiver which I have used previously, with settings on both the same. Since I cannot reproduce the problem, I can not do any testing to find which part of that chain (Samsung UHD player-> Denon receiver -> TV) is causing it.

Anyone seen anything similar on his TV? Known problem, etc.?
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I just now set my black levels with AVS HD brightness calibration video. I'm using oled light 80 for bright room and 60 for dark room. With AVS HD the right levels seemed to be 52 for bright and 53 for dark. I've had contrast at 85 for both and I'm a bit confused with it. The AVS HD contrast video says that I should adjust contrast until 230-234 or higher flash. With 85 contrast I can see pretty much every bar flashing up to 252. Is this correct?

And then about Dolby Vision. I understand that Oled light should be kept at the default 50 since it seems to be adjusted automatically depending if you are using bright or dark mode. But how should I go on about adjusting Brightness there? With the default 50 it feels like blacks are too dark and I'm missing details so should I use the same settings there as I am using with SDR settings (52 for bright mode and 53 for dark)? Or is there some other guideline I should follow here. I havent bumped into any calibration materials for setting Dolby Vision settings yet.
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I just now set my black levels with AVS HD brightness calibration video. I'm using oled light 80 for bright room and 60 for dark room. With AVS HD the right levels seemed to be 52 for bright and 53 for dark. I've had contrast at 85 for both and I'm a bit confused with it. The AVS HD contrast video says that I should adjust contrast until 230-234 or higher flash. With 85 contrast I can see pretty much every bar flashing up to 252. Is this correct?
I think (my assumption) that the ABL is causing one to see all the white bars even with contrast at 100. OR the color management system of the TV might be messing with it. Either way, I do not think one can find an upper limit to contrast with traditional contrast tests since it shows all the whites even at max contrast.

I think (again, just my assumption) a better way to test contrast's upper limit is with color bar tests, with varying levels grades of red, green and blue bars, to see where those colors start clipping. On my B6, red and blue clip before green. Red and blue start clipping around 97 contrast or so when above that most of the mid and higher levels of red and blue blend completely together. When I get in the low 90s, I can see the higher levels pretty well. I just stuck with 85 since that is the consensus here.
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