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Having a get together this weekend. Is there a thread with excellent 4k HDR material for b6/c6? I have a regular PS4 but no UHD player yet. I do have Amazon Prime but they say only the e6 and g6 have DV but Mozart in the Jungle did register HDR on my ç6. YouTube is only topping out at 1440p which I think is also firmware related. I read Netflix HDR wasn't up to snuff yet. Is that true? The Masters app would've been good but it's over.

For 3D I bought Super Stardust Ultra and it looks great. Haven't picked up any movies yet.

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Alan? Did u mean all? Which Prime content has DV?

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Alan? Did u mean all? Which Prime content has DV?

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Yes Xbox Scorpio is said to support 4k gaming at 60 fps. Due out November this year.

Most Xbox one games run at 1080p 60 fps. PS4 pro I'm not sure I'd guess 1080/60 or 4k/30.

If you want 4k/60 gaming now you need 1080ti sli probably


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Well, with the same graphical fidelity of the Xbox Scorpio, a GTX 1080ti could probably run at 90-120 FPS at 4k
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Well, with the same graphical fidelity of the Xbox Scorpio, a GTX 1080ti could probably run at 90-120 FPS at 4k
What?! What is this GTX 1080ti you speak of?! I want one.
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Can I plug in (via a RCA-optical adapter) a self powered subwoofer into the optical port of my C6? Maybe change it to PCM or something? If so what about volume control--i.e. would it only work on the sub or would the TV control it? I really liked the 2.1 on my old Panny 4k set and I'd like to add a small cheap woofer to the C6 (I'm not critical about sound quality but it added nice things I'd never heard before like background traffic noise on some videos).
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What?! What is this GTX 1080ti you speak of?! I want one.
He, it's a 700-800 dollar (usa) (in europe 850-1000 euros depending of model) high-end gpu, about best there is right now to gaming pc:s. You buy 2 ps4 pros with that price :P. It does run native 4k games over 60fps with highest settings, very few games dip under 60.
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What?! What is this GTX 1080ti you speak of?! I want one.
Google is your friend.

It run most games at Ultra setting at 60hz.

Console game usually have a medium graphical setting equivalent. So the game would run faster at those values.
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Sounds incredible however $800 is a lot of money.

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Seriously it's hard, especially when you compare 30fps after switching from 60. Anyway this TV won't make 30fps look smooth.

I suppose you can get use to it after some time. Like so many console gamers
That's not entirely true.

Games optimized on the PS4 Pro, even if they're locked at 30fps, at least don't feature any frame drops.

Games like Fallout 4, which received and PS4 Pro patch for performance, play noticeably smoother compared to what they played on standard PS4s or XB1.

While 60fps is obviously the preferred framerate for gaming, it's not like games that play consistently at 30fps are unbearable to look at on the B6.
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So, I made a Vudu account and purchased Mad Max: Fury Road.

And yeah, Dolby Vision is the supreme ruler in the HDR format war so far. I will be gutted if HDR10 ultimately wins out. While the latter is still a noticeable improvement compared to SDR content, I still feel the former provides better frame-by-frame color, highlight and black level reproduction.

There are minor scenes even where I noticed a substantial difference between DV and HDR10 in this film; a specific scene like Max standing atop the war rig and removing his face mask, the contrasts of the light blue sky with the rusted colors of his clothing, provided a far more lifelike picture in comparison to its 4K Blu-Ray.

Speaking of Vudu, could anyone be kind enough to supply me a list of all the available Dolby Vision content on this app? I'd appreciate it.

EDIT: Never mind. I was able to find all the UHD content on Vudu's website.

There are some really nice DV surprises on there, mainly The Silence of the Lambs and Goodfellas.

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Hopefully tonight after I get it hung and I can get my cables where they need to be I'll be able to put in the Disney calibration disk at least as a starting point. Contemplating bringing in Chad to do a professional calibration assuming he comes to Atlanta. Last night I was just using settings on the ratings.com as a starting point and then adjusting to my wife and I liking.
I'm not saying not to use the Disney WOW calibration disc but over the past six months I've been on this thread, I seem to recall lots of folks who have used it coming up with settings for brightness, contrast, etc. that are quite a bit different from where most other folks end up using other calibration discs/slides. I don't know why that is, just giving you a heads-up.
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Just wanted to thank everyone who helped me with those few settings I asked about a few pages back, I'm happy with how everything looks on both my B6's currently!
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I'm not saying not to use the Disney WOW calibration disc but over the past six months I've been on this thread, I seem to recall lots of folks who have used it coming up with settings for brightness, contrast, etc. that are quite a bit different from where most other folks end up using other calibration discs/slides. I don't know why that is, just giving you a heads-up.


Hmm maybe I'll just rock the settings I have nor for a few hundred hours then look into getting another calibration disk.


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Hmm maybe I'll just rock the settings I have nor for a few hundred hours then look into getting another calibration disk.
Seems like most people, whether by pro calibration or through their own adjustments using calibration discs/slides, are ending up with:

Brightness: 50 to 52 (whatever is the highest possible without getting a full-screen 0% black slide to glow in a dark room)
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Beyond that, calibrating individual colors under White Balance and Color Management varies quite a bit from one panel to the next, so there's little point in using another person's settings for those.

To improve near-black shadow detail, many folks are going into 20-point White Balance at IRE 5 and adjusting luminance up from the default 0 to anywhere from +3 to +12. Some people also increase luminance for IRE 10, 15, 20, etc. in decreasing steps (e.g. +8, +6, +4, +2), tapering down to no adjustment further up.
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Wondering if anyone has experienced this issue...
I've had my C6 for around 6 months and the OLED Light brightness seems to have really dulled over time. I used to run the OLED light at around 50 for a moderately lit room, but now I'm finding I need it at 100 to achieve the same result. Previously 100 OLED light would be "painful" to look at for extended periods. Even in a dark room I need the OLED light at 85+.
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I couldn't agree with that more. That's why I thought the discussion of off-axis viewing was so far down the list of OLED issues, it wasn't worth the time it was given.

When I closely examine the 'artifacting' that I see with HD on the OLED (I really don't watch any SD material) and compare that same scene on my Sony 940c, the Sony seems to, for a lack of a better description, 'smooth out' that artifacting. It's clearly still there on the Sony and the nature of it is the same, but the OLED seems to accentuate it. If we discussed this issue in terms of 'accuracy', I'm not sure which display is presenting a more accurate picture. Is it the Sony that seems to smooth out or smear the issue a bit, or is it the OLED that seems to show every bit of detail in the artifact?

I think in the end it's an unfortunately byproduct of the compression that our service and content providers use.


Yup, as I and a few others have noted, the upscaling just doesn't call attention to itself at normal viewing distances.
I agree with you 100%. My Samsung JS8500 does a much better job of smoothing out any imperfections in non 4K content. My c6 seems to accentuate noise, etc. But when it comes to 4K HDR, my C6 blows the Samsung right out of the water. Just something I'm going to have to deal with and get used to.
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TV mounted, but I'll have to take it down and re-adjust the bracket to lower the TV. Managed to get the cords running to the left side of the TV after opening up the wall to get some more slack. I'll try and fix the bracket in the next few weeks (the height isn't bothering the wife or I too much right now.)

For now I'll just keep enjoying some planet earth 2. Just finished blu ray of rogue one, and those inky blacks... Glad I didn't try and watch it on my Samsung.




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On the Pro! I played it on the OG PS4 as well before I got the OLED. Already looked good then, but combining 4K OLED HDR and Pro with this game is a sight to see. Game is definitely worth getting a Pro for. I'm sure we'll see more games this year to justify the Pro even more.


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You definitely won't regret it. I'm currently up right now still playing it, so good. How beautiful it looks on top of great gameplay/story makes it worth it.


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Oh, and can anyone tell me how much Chad B charges for calibration? I hear he's from the Ohio area, which is good for me since I live in Oregon.
Prices probably vary a little depending in part due to travel involved. Best thing to do is to call and find out.

I've had him over a couple of time and would highly recommend him.
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I have asked this question in B7 thread, I would like your guys input to see if it's worth to get the B7 for around $750 more than B6.
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I have asked this question in B7 thread, I would like your guys input to see if it's worth to get the B7 for around $750 more than B6.
I suppose it depends if it your last $750

D-Nice has both panels and will be replacing his Kuro's with B7 and did not replace them with the B6.

My best guess is yes. But if you want to save money and have an excellent display, PM my I am considering selling you my 6 month old 65B6 calibrated by ChadB.

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I have asked this question in B7 thread, I would like your guys input to see if it's worth to get the B7 for around $750 more than B6.
For the minimal improvements the B7/C7 has over the B6 I do not think it's worth it. Overall score, B7/C7 got 8.7 in Rtings and the B6 got 8.6 in Rtings. What did they tell you in the B7 thread?
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Wondering if anyone has experienced this issue...
I've had my C6 for around 6 months and the OLED Light brightness seems to have really dulled over time. I used to run the OLED light at around 50 for a moderately lit room, but now I'm finding I need it at 100 to achieve the same result. Previously 100 OLED light would be "painful" to look at for extended periods. Even in a dark room I need the OLED light at 85+.
Have you tried running the long compensation cycle? There are several patents having to do with keeping the life of smoled going and it's possible maybe some of it is only run during a long cycle. (I'm in the process of trying to figure out what the compensation cycles do exactly, so this is just speculation at this point.)
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I have asked this question in B7 thread, I would like your guys input to see if it's worth to get the B7 for around $750 more than B6.
Wait a couple of months and wait for price drop on the B7.

Problem solved. It will happen and could be faster than your thought.
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That answer will change person to person. Most feel it is. Keep in mind the B7 and C7 are identical, one is sold retail and the other at warehouse stores, usually the C7 will be had for less $$$
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I discovered a weird issue in my b6 tv, gaming picture mode seems to be greyed out sometimes or most of the time. Morning it was still there and i could choose it. Is it something i did or does it activate only if there is pc/console output...i didn't have any of those attached when it was active. Also the gaming mode doesn't say anything about hdr, it just games (in finnish). I suppose the gaming mode update has rolled into scandinavia too...since the mode really was active before. I can't even consider starting gaming with it before i know the mode is ok here in scandinavia too.
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Have you tried running the long compensation cycle? There are several patents having to do with keeping the life of smoled going and it's possible maybe some of it is only run during a long cycle. (I'm in the process of trying to figure out what the compensation cycles do exactly, so this is just speculation at this point.)
That and possibly "Resetting" the display though take pictures of settings prior.

Edit: Just curious, how many hours do you have on the set?
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I have asked this question in B7 thread, I would like your guys input to see if it's worth to get the B7 for around $750 more than B6.
For the minimal improvements the B7/C7 has over the B6 I do not think it's worth it. Overall score, B7/C7 got 8.7 in Rtings and the B6 got 8.6 in Rtings. What did they tell you in the B7 thread?

People in B7 thread are saying it's worth it maybe because they are B7 potential buyers. I got the B6 from BB, still have 20 days to think about it. I am thinking about the B7 could be more future proof down the road in terms of HDR support?
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