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I would propably get the Oppo, if it didnt cost $1,000 over here haha, thats just insane....
I am going to wait a while before I get myself a bluray player
But I really hope scorpio come out with a good 4k player
How much are the Panasonic UB variants if available in your location?
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hey just a quick question. i've been experiencing much more "noise" and artifacts within the last couple weeks on the 65c6. does anyone have any idea what it could be?

i've cleared the panel noise, but it helped minimally, if at all. at first i thought it was my Frontier FIOS cable, which has a lot to do with it (the noise has been awful on some stations recently. any light reflections on skin tones looks like a huge blotch on their faces or bodies.) but i've noticed similar noise while watching Split in 1080p on Kodi this week. a lot less than cable, but still noticeable in some scenes and still there.

i also have noticed noise on Netflix (particularly watching Revenge) in the background. this is a lot more static looking. if something isn't in the foreground, it seems extra "static-y".

i sit about 6-7ft away from the tv. not sure if that has anything to do with it. but for example, i watched the same episodes of Netflix on my 55" "fake" 4k tv in my bedroom (about 8 feet away) and didn't notice the same issues.

is it something in the settings that i'm missing? or is it the panel?

please help! dropping $2600 for my first "good" tv and i've been utterly dissatisfied the last few weeks.
Put sharpness to 0 and disable all setting related to edge enhancement (there's like 3-4).

That's a first start.
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Put sharpness to 0 and disable all setting related to edge enhancement (there's like 3-4).

That's a first start.
i currently have H and V Sharpness at 15. all other edge enhancements are off.

i probably used the wrong terminology with the use of the word "artifacts". my bad. i don't see any issues with the edges. all objects look great along the edges. it's mainly on human skin tones with light reflection, is when the blotches appear.

the "static" i'm experiencing, on Netflix for example, is not object specific. just anything not in the foreground in general is very blurry looking and has very little definition.
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Yeah that's way too much! It's around $500-$550 in the U.S. Why is it double over in the Ukraine?
I have no idea, but only few stores have that player, and they all cost about $1,000

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The UB900 is about $700 and the UB700 cost $450 but they both dont have Dolby Vision..
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Put sharpness to 0 and disable all setting related to edge enhancement (there's like 3-4).



That's a first start.


You have 0 for sharpness on ISF Dark? What about HDR content?


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Yeah that would be cool! But you're all the way in Tennessee?! LOL! We could play online if you had a Switch too. Funnny I love my PS4 Pro but I still Love Nintendo's games too! Super Mario is my all time fav! 41 years old and still got that kid in me! Lol!

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Oh and if I am lucky enough to find the 4k movie I want... they cost like $50 each, lol
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You have 0 for sharpness on ISF Dark? What about HDR content?


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i currently have H and V Sharpness at 15. all other edge enhancements are off.

i probably used the wrong terminology with the use of the word "artifacts". my bad. i don't see any issues with the edges. all objects look great along the edges. it's mainly on human skin tones with light reflection, is when the blotches appear.

the "static" i'm experiencing, on Netflix for example, is not object specific. just anything not in the foreground in general is very blurry looking and has very little definition.
Here you go,

That's your problem.

Lg sharpness only really create more noise. If you want to use that setting, don't use more than 5.

Believe me, I know about noise problem on those OLED, My first 100 post in AVS forum was complaining about noise.
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HDR is 4k so, of course 0.

Who need sharpness in an already full 4k video.

When watching 720P content, I can go up to 5. But LG upscaling already does a great job.
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Every calibrator I've had usually puts sharpness at 0 on everything.


Good to know. I'm going to need some of these people that create best settings to be on the same page on certain stuff lol. I guess they do it so people can use as a baseline but geeze, there should at least be some consistency between all the videos.


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Oh and if I am lucky enough to find the 4k movie I want... they cost like $50 each, lol
That's insane! We pay like $20-$30 here for 4K blurays. That's unreal buddy.

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Yeah that would be cool! But you're all the way in Tennessee?! LOL! We could play online if you had a Switch too. Funnny I love my PS4 Pro but I still Love Nintendo's games too! Super Mario is my all time fav! 41 years old and still got that kid in me! Lol!


Right! Pretty far away huh? I'm still on the fence about the Switch. Would definitely like to have one to experience the new Zelda and some other first party titles. I'm sucked into too many games lately between the PS4 and Xbox. Another system would feel overwhelming probably


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HDR is 4k so, of course 0.



Who need sharpness in an already full 4k video.



When watching 720P content, I can go up to 5. But LG upscaling already does a great job.


I'm going home today and changing my sharpness to 0. 0 on everythinggggg


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i currently have H and V Sharpness at 15. all other edge enhancements are off.

i probably used the wrong terminology with the use of the word "artifacts". my bad. i don't see any issues with the edges. all objects look great along the edges. it's mainly on human skin tones with light reflection, is when the blotches appear.

the "static" i'm experiencing, on Netflix for example, is not object specific. just anything not in the foreground in general is very blurry looking and has very little definition.
You could try setting Super Resolution to low or medium and see if that helps. I can't tell that it does very much but you can try it.

From a review of a 2014 LG 1080p OLED at Sound & Vision:

I thought the LG’s picture to be noticeably soft out of the box compared with that of the LCD and plasma sets I’ve reviewed recently. To get around this, I set the LG’s Super Resolution control to low and turned the Edge Enhancer on. The Sharpness control was on 10 (maximum is 50). From a normal viewing distance, this virtually eliminated the softness without adding excessive edge enhancement or other artifacts. Nor did I see any white-line edge enhancement or other artifacts when viewing both sharpness and pixel-phase (1:1 pixel perfect) patterns at just inches from the screen.
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Right! Pretty far away huh? I'm still on the fence about the Switch. Would definitely like to have one to experience the new Zelda and some other first party titles. I'm sucked into too many games lately between the PS4 and Xbox. Another system would feel overwhelming probably


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I hear ya! 3 would be too much for me too. Right now the Swtch and PS4 Pro are enough. But that new Scorpio will be tempting!

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That's insane! We pay like $20-$30 here for 4K blurays. That's unreal buddy.
Yup, thats why I prefer downloading stuff and Netflix untill uhd mature and be available for a reasonable price in stores
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I hear ya! 3 would be too much for me too. Right now the Swtch and PS4 Pro are enough. But that new Scorpio will be tempting!


Oh yeah! I'm still debating on whether I'll want to sell my One S for it when that releases. I can't wait to play Forza on that beast!


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No debate here, will definitely sell my X1s to make room for the Scorpio lol.
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No debate here, will definitely sell my X1s to make room for the Scorpio lol.


I'm just not sure if I'll want to use the 1S as a UHD player in another area maybe? Plus it was a gift so I'd feel bad selling it I guess. But the Scorpio will be a definite purchase for me!


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I'm just not sure if I'll want to use the 1S as a UHD player in another area maybe? Plus it was a gift so I'd feel bad selling it I guess. But the Scorpio will be a definite purchase for me!


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Yeah but Game Stop will probably give you good credit towards the Scorpio if you trade the 1S towards it. That's how I got my systems! The trade in credits are amazing. Barely spent any $ towards the Pro and Switch.
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Here you go,

That's your problem.

Lg sharpness only really create more noise. If you want to use that setting, don't use more than 5.

Believe me, I know about noise problem on those OLED, My first 100 post in AVS forum was complaining about noise.
great. thanks for the info. i'll try it tonight when i get home.

kind of makes me feel better knowing i'm not the only one who's experienced this. i've been ready to put my foot through the tv with how noticeable it's been.
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All you need is about 20-25 mbs for current 4K content. The question is if you are truly getting the rated amount you purchase for especially during heavy hours in the evening along with other users in the living space =P
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Just check the resolution that Netflix is outputting (with Info button) to see if you're actually getting the resolution that you should be getting from a Netflix show. If it's 4k show and you're getting 4k resolution from Netflix, then your internet is fast enough...

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Hey guys, this isn't what I was really asking, even though I do appreciate the feedback. Maybe I'm just not phrasing the questions correctly.

I have no troubles streaming 4K content with 50mbps--in fact, I think the lowest my streams have dropped is around 43-45 mbps.

I guess what I'm trying to achieve here is video quality as close to UHD Blu-Ray as possible. While I know that streaming content is inherently limited, and will lead to compression no matter what, my goal is to at least smooth out those issues as much as possible.

So, what I'm really asking is, even though 50mbps has provided an adequate experience of streaming 4K content so far, will doubling my internet speed provide better video/picture quality? Or are apps like Netflix and Vudu limited to a video bitrate that doesn't exceed 50, 60, or say 70mbps?
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Hey guys, this isn't what I was really asking, even though I do appreciate the feedback. Maybe I'm just not phrasing the questions correctly.

I have no troubles streaming 4K content with 50mbps--in fact, I think the lowest my streams have dropped is around 43-45 mbps.

I guess what I'm trying to achieve here is video quality as close to UHD Blu-Ray as possible. While I know that streaming content is inherently limited, and will lead to compression no matter what, my goal is to at least smooth out those issues as much as possible.

So, what I'm really asking is, even though 50mbps has provided an adequate experience of streaming 4K content so far, will doubling my internet speed provide better video/picture quality? Or are apps like Netflix and Vudu limited to a video bitrate that doesn't exceed 50, 60, or say 70mbps?
I don't know if services like Netflix and Vudo are "limited" to a certain bitrate, but my understanding is that you either have enough bandwidth to display a certain resolution or not. I've never heard of different "quality levels" of 4k video from Netflix, for example - it either streams at 4k or it doesn't. Same with 720p/1080p - it either works or it doesn't (meaning it steps down to the next lower resolution). I don't think that someone with a faster internet will get a higher quality 4k stream than someone with barely enough internet bandwidth to achieve 4k streaming...

So I think it's an "all or none" type of deal... Someone please correct me if I'm wrong...

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Yeah but Game Stop will probably give you good credit towards the Scorpio if you trade the 1S towards it. That's how I got my systems! The trade in credits are amazing. Barely spent any $ towards the Pro and Switch.


I'll keep an eye out on the trade in credit offers they end up doing during time of release then.


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Hey guys, this isn't what I was really asking, even though I do appreciate the feedback. Maybe I'm just not phrasing the questions correctly.

I have no troubles streaming 4K content with 50mbps--in fact, I think the lowest my streams have dropped is around 43-45 mbps.

I guess what I'm trying to achieve here is video quality as close to UHD Blu-Ray as possible. While I know that streaming content is inherently limited, and will lead to compression no matter what, my goal is to at least smooth out those issues as much as possible.

So, what I'm really asking is, even though 50mbps has provided an adequate experience of streaming 4K content so far, will doubling my internet speed provide better video/picture quality? Or are apps like Netflix and Vudu limited to a video bitrate that doesn't exceed 50, 60, or say 70mbps?
No, jtrosky is right, with Netflix, Amazon and VUDU, you either have sufficient bandwidth to stream in UHD/4K or you don't. At least for now, they don't offer higher bitrate, less compressed 4K streams, only one version of 4K. (Not sure about YouTube though.) Netflix and Amazon's 4K streams are both in the 15 to 16 Mbps range (encoded in HEVC), although you'd need a little higher sustained throughput on your downstream connection to fetch those streams. A 20 Mbps connection might do it. I have 25 Mbps downstream service from Comcast (tests anywhere from 25 to 31) -- connected via ethernet, not wifi -- and never have any problems with 4K from any of the apps on my B6. My performance in that regard would be no better if I had 50 Mbps, 100 Mbps or even 1 Gbps service.

(That said, I *think* Netflix generally encodes more than one quality level at 1080p, so the picture may look better with a 10 Mbps connection than a 5 Mbps connection.)
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