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Thank you for that information. I was not aware of that.

I read on AVS somewhere that using a physical blue filter did not provide accurate results, but that using the TV's built-in color filter, did. Not sure how accurate those posts were. I used the TV's built-in blue filter.

Couple of questions. I realize it's a wide color gamut TV, but with color gamut set to Normal when using the flashing color bars pattern, there is no remapping input colors to a wider color gamut because it's not being used, correct? I understand the flashing color bars blue filter test not being accurate with color gamut set to wide, but should still work with color gamut set to normal, no?

As far as the results with real content are concerned, with Color at 60 and Normal CG, some TV shows appear oversaturated, but most do not, and movies and netflix shows appear quite natural and realistic, not oversaturated.
I read a bit more on the Spears & Munsil site about color calibration and found this interesting:

"If the display has a “blue-only” mode, the blue-only effect will almost certainly be applied after Color & Tint, but before the CMS. If the display has a CMS on/off control, try looking at the Color and Tint pattern with blue-only mode on, and CMS both off and on. There should be no difference. If there is no difference you can adjust Color and Tint without worrying if the CMS is on or off. Just turn on “blue only” mode, calibrate Color and Tint, then turn it off again. No filter is necessary."

Anyone know if this "blue-only" mode they are referring to is the same as using the TV's built-in blue color filter? I understand this to mean that if the TV has a blue only mode, it can be used to calibrate the Color setting with the standard color bars pattern.

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Lowering the brightness setting from 52 to 49 corrected the problem. Grainy, blotches gone. Anything higher than 51 results in the grainy effect.
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where did you see those grainy , blotches ? can you show screenshot or say which movie or video you saw it ?
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Tbh... The UHD Blu-ray performance of my Xbox One S left me wanting more so I got an Oppo 203. Much better all around.

Now, that being said you should still be getting a good experience out of your UHD Blu-rays. What specifically about the movies do you find lacking or underwhelming?

Also, of those movies Lucy is really the only one that I would give a decent score in terms of the UHD HDR experience but even than its not a reference quality movie in terms of HDR.

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Actually, I finally played around with some settings and also jumped around in some of the movies and finally started to see some real improvement in the UHD movies (specifically The Bourne Identity). I am open to suggestions to see the full potential of 4K UHD HDR with some other movie titles - I will also be considering the purchase of a different 4K UHD Player (maybe even something with both HDR and DV). That being said, the picture on this TV is amazing - it is a generational move forward versus the other TVs I have had before - even with 1080P Blu Rays - previous TVs were Vizio M60-C3, Samsung KU-6300 and currently have a TCL P605 (BB version 55"). I am sure it will be impossible to go back to an LCD (unless Samsung manages to perfect its Quantum Dot).
One other caveat that I didn't notice at first - the 4K UHD version of the 1st two Hunger Games Movies (Original and Catching Fire) weren't advertised as HDR movies and the difference between the 4K and 1080P movies was imperceptible.
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Actually, I finally played around with some settings and also jumped around in some of the movies and finally started to see some real improvement in the UHD movies (specifically The Bourne Identity). I am open to suggestions to see the full potential of 4K UHD HDR with some other movie titles - I will also be considering the purchase of a different 4K UHD Player (maybe even something with both HDR and DV). That being said, the picture on this TV is amazing - it is a generational move forward versus the other TVs I have had before - even with 1080P Blu Rays - previous TVs were Vizio M60-C3, Samsung KU-6300 and currently have a TCL P605 (BB version 55"). I am sure it will be impossible to go back to an LCD (unless Samsung manages to perfect its Quantum Dot).
One other caveat that I didn't notice at first - the 4K UHD version of the 1st two Hunger Games Movies (Original and Catching Fire) weren't advertised as HDR movies and the difference between the 4K and 1080P movies was imperceptible.
you can get UHD player Oppo 203 for Dolby Vision. this tv will be perfect to pair with Oppo.
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I unfortunately have to part ways with my Oppo 203 due to needing quick funds for a conference this fall for my PhD studies

On the plus side the Xbox now supports Atmos and DTS X Bitstream so I can still watch my collection without much difference.

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Question What is THIS all about?!

Hey guys,

I've had an OLED65C6P since December of last year and have loved every moment of it... until yesterday. We got home from the Labor Day weekend and I noticed some really bad uneven blotches all over the picture. It's the actual display, not any of my devices. The blotches remain on the LG menus and screensaver images (the ones that show when there's no input detected).

I've tried using the noise removal feature multiple times, left it unplugged for a few hours, and even ran a burn-in fixing app in the Google Play Store on an Android TV device for 6+ hours, but nothing seems to help. The TV was off all weekend and it's plugged into a surge protector. It's not noticeable much during normal viewing (to the untrained eyes in my family, at least), but it's super obvious on uniformly-colored images. Check out these pics I took:

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Any ideas on what's happening? I'm still within my 1-year warranty, but I *really* don't want to have to go through the RMA process. I've long since trashed all the packaging.

Thanks in advance!
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I read a bit more on the Spears & Munsil site about color calibration and found this interesting:

"If the display has a “blue-only” mode, the blue-only effect will almost certainly be applied after Color & Tint, but before the CMS. If the display has a CMS on/off control, try looking at the Color and Tint pattern with blue-only mode on, and CMS both off and on. There should be no difference. If there is no difference you can adjust Color and Tint without worrying if the CMS is on or off. Just turn on “blue only” mode, calibrate Color and Tint, then turn it off again. No filter is necessary."

Anyone know if this "blue-only" mode they are referring to is the same as using the TV's built-in blue color filter? I understand this to mean that if the TV has a blue only mode, it can be used to calibrate the Color setting with the standard color bars pattern.
When using the built in Blue color filter, you will notice that you cannot get the Red, Yellow, and Green color bars on the Color test pattern (From Spears and Munsil or AVS) to line up. And you'll notice that you have to increase your color setting up to 60 or beyond to get the blue boxes to equal out. That will result in an over-saturated color setting. If you like that, it's cool. For this set, you need a professional calibrator to do anything with the color and tint settings. Best to just leave them as is out of the box.

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Hey guys,

I've had an OLED65C6P since December of last year and have loved every moment of it... until yesterday. We got home from the Labor Day weekend and I noticed some really bad uneven blotches all over the picture. It's the actual display, not any of my devices. The blotches remain on the LG menus and screensaver images (the ones that show when there's no input detected).

I've tried using the noise removal feature multiple times, left it unplugged for a few hours, and even ran a burn-in fixing app in the Google Play Store on an Android TV device for 6+ hours, but nothing seems to help. The TV was off all weekend and it's plugged into a surge protector. It's not noticeable much during normal viewing (to the untrained eyes in my family, at least), but it's super obvious on uniformly-colored images. Check out these pics I took:

Image 1
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Any ideas on what's happening? I'm still within my 1-year warranty, but I *really* don't want to have to go through the RMA process. I've long since trashed all the packaging.

Thanks in advance!
From your pictures and description it seems like it could be burn-in but hopefully this is not the case. I would contact LG ASAP.
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From your pictures and description it seems like it could be burn-in but hopefully this is not the case. I would contact LG ASAP.
I would describe it as a screen anomaly.....don't go saying its burn in as you are not a tech......Burn in is not covered under warranty.
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quote=x7007;54750600]where did you see those grainy , blotches ? can you show screenshot or say which movie or video you saw it ?[/quote]

it happens on any movie with scenes with very dark areas.
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Good afternoon.

I few weeks ago, i posted here about a problem i had with my 65'' B6.
The problem only happened during HDR movies, i could see some bright squares around letters or other forms.
After contact with LG, they replace my entire screen.

Until here, everything normal. but something i really what share is the new display.

Comparing against the original, the backside color is more lighter. The power switch in the original has 2 screws to hold. This new old doesn't .
the quality of this new panel, no licking, no blending, everything now is really black, uniform.

The duration of the swap was 30 minutes.

This makes me think, maybe LG is holding some best panels for replacement. If you think only customers which has compliant about PQ will open a ticket.

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quote=x7007;54750600]where did you see those grainy , blotches ? can you show screenshot or say which movie or video you saw it ?
it happens on any movie with scenes with very dark areas.[/QUOTE]

Wow, looks like bad quality stream to me...similar quality i get from HBO...but yep brighness 50 or less seems to help a lot, atleast with netflix. But i don't think nothing helps if stream is bad quality like hbo is.
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I would describe it as a screen anomaly.....don't go saying its burn in as you are not a tech......Burn in is not covered under warranty.
Pump the brakes man, I said it "could be" burn-in. Also I never claimed to be a tech or expert.
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Pump the brakes man, I said it "could be" burn-in. Also I never claimed to be a tech or expert.
I think they were saying if you contact LG, don't call it burn in or they might not help you.

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Does anyone know if HLG is coming to the B6?

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Does anyone know if HLG is coming to the B6?
We're all still waiting for it. There are a couple European sources that report (in other languages; see links a few days ago on this thread) that LG is currently testing a 05.XX.XX firmware update for the B6 that will bring HLG, like they've already released for the other 2016 OLEDs. Hard to imagine that after bringing HLG to the rest of the line-up that they wouldn't bring it to the most popular model.
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Seems like there's a big problem with the way this TV handles HDMI-CEC with receivers. If you only have a single device connected to the receiver, it will work fine, but whenever you have multiple devices connected, then no matter what you do, the TV will force the first device listed under the receiver input to turn on when switching to that HDMI input on the TV. The only way to bypass it seems to be to manually select the device in the list under the HDMI port.

Otherwise, if you simply select that HDMI port, it will automatically turn on the first device. If you turn on one of the other devices, that will trigger HDMI-CEC, which will cause the TV to switch to that HDMI port and then, again, turn on the first device.

This is incorrect behavior. When none of the receiver's devices are manually selected by the user on the TV's input menu, the TV should only switch to the HDMI port and display whatever is already there.

For example, on my receiver (connected to HDMI2), I have my PS4 and PS3 connected. The first device listed is the PS4, so even if I turn on my PS3, the PS4 turns on and then the receiver switches back to the PS4 input. If I turn off CEC on the PS4, it just automatically turns on the PS3 if I switch to HDMI2. I'm planning to buy a new 4K Blu-ray player soon, and so this will cause even more problems. I really don't want to turn off CEC, because it can be quite useful, but LG needs to fix this behavior.

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Any idea if there is a way to adjust the picture type per input when coming through an AVR? Here is what I am trying to accomplish:

I have an AVR with My DirecTV, PS4 Pro and Apple tv all hooked up.

1) Apple TV I would like Cinema mode or Expert Dark Room to be active
2) PS4 Pro I Need game mode active (for the lower input lag)
3) Direct TV I would like Sports or Expert Dark to be active.

Without having to change the picture mode every time I switch devices. Probably unlikely, but though I'd ask
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Any idea if there is a way to adjust the picture type per input when coming through an AVR? Here is what I am trying to accomplish:

I have an AVR with My DirecTV, PS4 Pro and Apple tv all hooked up.

1) Apple TV I would like Cinema mode or Expert Dark Room to be active
2) PS4 Pro I Need game mode active (for the lower input lag)
3) Direct TV I would like Sports or Expert Dark to be active.

Without having to change the picture mode every time I switch devices. Probably unlikely, but though I'd ask
Yeah I was hoping the same. Doesn't seem possible as far as I can tell. However one thing that might help is if any devices only do basic Dolby Digital or DTS, then plug those devices in directly to the TV and let them send audio back through ARC or optical. That way you can set picture modes on those devices at least.

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When using the built in Blue color filter, you will notice that you cannot get the Red, Yellow, and Green color bars on the Color test pattern (From Spears and Munsil or AVS) to line up. And you'll notice that you have to increase your color setting up to 60 or beyond to get the blue boxes to equal out. That will result in an over-saturated color setting. If you like that, it's cool. For this set, you need a professional calibrator to do anything with the color and tint settings. Best to just leave them as is out of the box.
Thanks again.

I adjusted color back down to 50 and I agree, that it looks more natural and realistic that way with most content (some content looks undersatured).

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I would describe it as a screen anomaly.....don't go saying its burn in as you are not a tech......Burn in is not covered under warranty.
I'm quite sure it's *not* burn-in. The blotches don't look like anything that would be burned in (say, the geometric shape of a static logo), but moreso, I only noticed the issue after the TV was off all weekend. So you're right, I won't mention burn-in to LG.

I bought the TV from you guys last year. Hopefully LG makes everything as easy as you did!
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Good news for European B owners. My set just got a OTA update 05.30.03 and it seems to have HLG. There is no info about other improvements or about this update at the LG site yet .
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Good news for European B owners. My set just got a OTA update 05.30.03 and it seems to have HLG. There is no info about other improvements or about this update at the LG site yet .
That's great!! Any other changes you've noticed?
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Nice, i think you are from Finland also so it's probably coming for me too when i open tv.
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According to some members of Tweakers.net (Dutch website) the OTA is also available in The Netherlands.
Haven't checked mine yet.
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I'm quite sure it's *not* burn-in. The blotches don't look like anything that would be burned in (say, the geometric shape of a static logo), but moreso, I only noticed the issue after the TV was off all weekend. So you're right, I won't mention burn-in to LG.

I bought the TV from you guys last year. Hopefully LG makes everything as easy as you did!
I had a thought. Does your tv sit in a place where sun could have been shining on the screen for a while? I believe some people were mentioning issues with that earlier.

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Good news for European B owners. My set just got a OTA update 05.30.03 and it seems to have HLG. There is no info about other improvements or about this update at the LG site yet .
Is hdr game mode still dark?
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Good news for European B owners. My set just got a OTA update 05.30.03 and it seems to have HLG. There is no info about other improvements or about this update at the LG site yet .
Check to see if there were any changes to HDR Game mode please.
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Check to see if there were any changes to HDR Game mode please.
Sorry guys, I don`t have any external HDR capable device with HDMI so I can`t check the HDR Game mode. I`m sure someone can help you soon after they have their TVs updated.

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Pump the brakes man, I said it "could be" burn-in. Also I never claimed to be a tech or expert.
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I think they were saying if you contact LG, don't call it burn in or they might not help you.

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That is correct, I was saying if you contact LG, don't call it burn in or they might not help you. No reason to try to guess what the issue is as you are not a TV tech People sometimes tell on themselves without realizing it......
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