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Looks like i have to install new firmware from usb stick...my tv is still not seeing it which is weird.
Edit: anyway no problem updating from usb stick, i have the new update also now. How can we test this hlg? Download video to usb and play it?
Yup. This is a demo video of HLG. You should see the bubble pop up showing HLG when playing the file off a USB stick.

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My set does not show the update either. Should I wait a bit or do a manual update??
I've always done it manually because the update service on the TV seems to vary on when you get it.
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My set does not show the update either. Should I wait a bit or do a manual update??
Well manual is not hard to do either, just follow instructions in their site. i downloaded the update from LG local site (finnish).
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My set does not show the update either. Should I wait a bit or do a manual update??
The over the air updates for the US TV's at least hasn't worked for a while. LG is aware. You have to manually update for now

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Very excited about this new firmware. Equally excited about a HDR capable 4K Apple TV tomorrow.

All future proofed, bring on the content!
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Yup. This is a demo video of HLG. You should see the bubble pop up showing HLG when playing the file off a USB stick.

http://4kmedia.org/lg-cymatic-jazz-hdr-hlg-uhd-4k-demo/
Yes it works and looks pretty awesome. If only all local tv broadcasts were HLG.
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I can confirm that, with the 5.30.01 and the 5.30.03 the blacks are raised, regardless of gamma-setting, sub-brightness, brightness... You can lower your brightness to 0 and the blacks still are raised. You can only see that in a pitch black room with a 0IRE pattern (black pattern), the displays glows... with downgrade to 4.31.25 the blacks are perfect again.
Maybe we in EU have a different FW than yours in the US...
But remember, you really can only see it in a pitch black room with a 0IRE pattern, no other content should be on the display. Even a pause-icon is too much to see the display glow in the dark. Try it for yourself, will be pretty interesting to hear your impressions...


Appreciate your information on this one dlj. Normally I wouldn't sacrifice black levels for anything, but if what I bolded in your statement is true and fade to blacks would still appear perfectly black, I would gladly trade what I can't see while watching my content for what I can see (near black noise). The noise is a non issue for me, but I don't mind an improvement since it is visible occasionally.
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Hey guys, i was wondering if anyone has experience or can answer my question about transfer of ownership of oled tv and what it means for manufacturer and lg premium care extended warranty purchase. To summarize, I want to buy a used oled b6 tv. I know it is in good condition (also based on hr and solid color background test). buydig (authorized retailer) Receipt is also available. I called into LG Premium Care to ask a few questions. I was told that I need to call the corporate number to have the ownership of the oled tv to be switched to me so I can be covered by the remaining manufacturer warranty and be able to purchase the lg premium care extended warranty. LG customer service rep also said that the lg premium care extended warranty is transferable if I sell the tv to someone else but once again the corporate office needs to be notified of this transfer in ownership.

So my question is, anyone has experience calling LG corporate number to let them know of transfer in ownership? Maybe I am paranoid but I am concerned about the tv's serial number being blacklisted which will prevent me from buying LG extended warranty (my only option for this tv). Is this the proper steps for me to take to make sure I won't have problems with my premium care extended warranty purchase (and the tv's serial number won't be blacklisted)? I am pretty fixed on buying the tv.
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Very excited about this new firmware. Equally excited about a HDR capable 4K Apple TV tomorrow.

All future proofed, bring on the content!
Yes. And it looks like the new Apple TV will support the same three HDR formats that our LGs do: HDR10, Dolby Vision and HLG!
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I can confirm that, with the 5.30.01 and the 5.30.03 the blacks are raised, regardless of gamma-setting, sub-brightness, brightness... You can lower your brightness to 0 and the blacks still are raised. You can only see that in a pitch black room with a 0IRE pattern (black pattern), the displays glows... with downgrade to 4.31.25 the blacks are perfect again.
Maybe we in EU have a different FW than yours in the US...
But remember, you really can only see it in a pitch black room with a 0IRE pattern, no other content should be on the display. Even a pause-icon is too much to see the display glow in the dark. Try it for yourself, will be pretty interesting to hear your impressions...
After updating to 05.30.03, last night I checked black levels in a dark room using two different patterns that showed various grayscale levels. I kept my settings the same as before the update (brightness 51). On one pattern, it did appear that 0% black glowed if I got close to the screen. But on another pattern, where I placed a toilet paper tube against the screen and looked through with one eye, I could see no glowing pixels on the 0% black area.

At any rate, in watching actual content, black areas (letterbox bars, totally black interstitial screens) still appeared totally black to me. And I do think that near-black details looked just slightly better, although without being able to do a direct, immediate A/B comparison on the same content, it's hard to know whether that's true or just placebo.
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Firmware 05.30.03 and Vudu UHD?

Has anyone that had upgraded to the new firmware version 05.30.03 tried watching a UHD title on Vudu? In the current version quite a few owners have had playback issues with UHD titles dropping frames/skipping. I don't want to upgrade until I hear the issue has been resolved.
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This thread is massive, so apologies if I missed it. Are we at a point where there are settings recommendations for HDR modes? The last time I checked a few months back, there weren't any. I would love to get some good settings for viewing anything in HDR. I'm not positive I even noticed a difference with HDR other then it appears to be easier to make out detail that would normally be too dark?
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This thread is massive, so apologies if I missed it. Are we at a point where there are settings recommendations for HDR modes? The last time I checked a few months back, there weren't any. I would love to get some good settings for viewing anything in HDR. I'm not positive I even noticed a difference with HDR other then it appears to be easier to make out detail that would normally be too dark?
Personally, I think the best way to get the most out of HDR is to set your OLED light in SDR mode low enough that HDR feels like a natural expansion above that. I haven't been able to perfectly measure it yet, but I believe that's around 30. Too much above that and HDR is going to look darker overall, which it shouldn't usually. If you watch with the lights out, this may not matter as much, but it's still a good idea to keep OLED Light lower in SDR mode.

I always recommend disabling any artificial enhancement settings (sharpness, dynamic contrast, etc) and the only other thing I might change is brightness to 51, but you may need to check your TV to make sure that is correct on yours. Beyond that you would need a meter to be able to improve the HDR picture I believe.

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Personally, I think the best way to get the most out of HDR is to set your OLED light in SDR mode low enough that HDR feels like a natural expansion above that. I haven't been able to perfectly measure it yet, but I believe that's around 30. Too much above that and HDR is going to look darker overall, which it shouldn't usually. If you watch with the lights out, this may not matter as much, but it's still a good idea to keep OLED Light lower in SDR mode.

I always recommend disabling any artificial enhancement settings (sharpness, dynamic contrast, etc) and the only other thing I might change is brightness to 51, but you may need to check your TV to make sure that is correct on yours. Beyond that you would need a meter to be able to improve the HDR picture I believe.
Do you have Sharpness set at 0 for both SDR and HDR content?

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Do you have Sharpness set at 0 for both SDR and HDR content?
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I always wondered if on our sets it was best to keep sharpness at 0 even for non-4K content. I've seen recommendations of keeping it at least at the 10 mark or just completely off.

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I always wondered if on our sets it was best to keep sharpness at 0 even for non-4K content. I've seen recommendations of keeping it at least at the 10 mark or just completely off.
I believe it's a sharpening effect that gets applied after the upscale, instead of actually affecting the upscaling algorithm, so I doubt it would be very beneficial. I mean, if you like the look of it, by all means keep it on, but I dislike all kinds of artificial enhancement.

Some people in here also recommend lower dynamic contrast and DJ/DB settings as well but I definitely don't agree with that.

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I believe it's a sharpening effect that gets applied after the upscale, instead of actually affecting the upscaling algorithm, so I doubt it would be very beneficial. I mean, if you like the look of it, by all means keep it on, but I dislike all kinds of artificial enhancement.

Some people in here also recommend lower dynamic contrast and DJ/DB settings as well but I definitely don't agree with that.

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Yeah I honestly didn't see any benefit when leaving sharpness at 10. I bumped it back down to 0. Also, DC I definitely keep off. I've been keeping DJ/DB on off lately and I've been enjoying the look so far.
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Yes. And it looks like the new Apple TV will support the same three HDR formats that our LGs do: HDR10, Dolby Vision and HLG!
Combined with dolby Atmos capability and the amazon video app coming at some point this will solve all my problems...
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Just remember that, in some cases, the default sharpness of the source image is not zero. Many sets tend to add additional blur to the image when setting below 10 or so. I think that may be the case with the B6 model.
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For those of you with the C6, if you haven't already, watch Gravity 3D on it. Holy crap that movie looks amazing on this set.
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Combined with dolby Atmos capability and the amazon video app coming at some point this will solve all my problems...
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I could not see any difference between 0-10. No blur and no ringing on a sharpness pattern. On my previous LG plasma it would actually add blur below 5 and ringing above 10 making 5-10 basically indistinguishable and it seems they just removed the added blur for these models making 0-10 indistinguishable....

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I could not see any difference between 0-10. No blur and no ringing on a sharpness pattern. On my previous LG plasma it would actually add blur below 5 and ringing above 10 making 5-10 basically indistinguishable and it seems they just removed the added blur for these models making 0-10 indistinguishable....

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Has anyone come up with the best setting for HDR Game mode after the update ?
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Is it recommended to update to 5.30.03 despite the glowing black level?
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Hey guys! I just like to give you an update regarding the black levels on the new firmware. I've said before that it was ok here with my set. However, unfortunately the new firmware DOES ruins the pitch black. It's really hard to spot in normal conditions. It took a while until my eyes got used to the dark environment. Also I'd like to say that the new firmware completely ruined the HDR on PC mode. The whole image now looks greenish no matter what you choose (standard, game, bright or vivid). So, stay aware of those changes if you want to upgrade.
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I updated my firmware and I downloaded the hlg demo. Nothing popped up indicating hlg. What am I doing wrong? 65B6 here
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Hey guys! I just like to give you an update regarding the black levels on the new firmware. I've said before that it was ok here with my set. However, unfortunately the new firmware DOES ruins the pitch black. It's really hard to spot in normal conditions. It took a while until my eyes got used to the dark environment. Also I'd like to say that the new firmware completely ruined the HDR on PC mode. The whole image now looks greenish no matter what you choose (standard, game, bright or vivid). So, stay aware of those changes if you want to upgrade.
No settings adjustments solve this then? Blacks remain raised?

No way am I upgrading but I feel this is completely unacceptable as it would mean that LG is basically ruining the TV. Perfect blacks ARE the reason to get an OLED. Without that, what are you left with? No amount of glow is acceptable in this case.
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