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Ok. And if u were watching an app, like YouTube? Does it restart that app or start with tv tuner?
Just played YouTube and shut of the TV while it was playing. Turned it back on and it started on the last HDMi input I was on.

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Just played YouTube and shut of the TV while it was playing. Turned it back on and it started on the last HDMi input I was on.
If u r watching the built in YouTube app, does it restart in that or live tv tuner? Thx.
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If u r watching the built in YouTube app, does it restart in that or live tv tuner? Thx.
As I said in my last post, It started on the last HDMI input I was on. Even when I shut off the built in YouTube App.

Just tested again, If my last viewing was antenna before starting app, It restarts on last input (wether TV att or HDMI) and not the internal app.

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If u r watching the built in YouTube app, does it restart in that or live tv tuner? Thx.


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As I said in my last post, It started on the last HDMI input I was on. Even when I shut off the built in YouTube App.
Yeah. I copied that. But since the built in apps aren’t considered an hdmi input, I was just cornfirming. I may do a factory reset on this damn thing 😡
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Yeah. I copied that. But since the built in apps aren’t considered an hdmi input, I was just cornfirming. I may do a factory reset on this damn thing 😡
No worries. I tested antenna tv, than launching YouTube, then shutting off TV. It restarts the last (non-app) input you were on.

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Long press on the Home button on the remote and force close the Live TV.
Ok. Never had to do that before. So this stops the tv from always starting with the live/broadcast tv tuner rather than whatever else I was watching when tv was powered off?
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No worries. I tested antenna tv, than launching YouTube, then shutting off TV. It restarts the last (non-app) input you were on.
I’m not clear. What do u mean it “restarts with the last non-app input”? What about the last app u were watching? I swear this thing used to power on and went straight to “whatever” I was watching before, be it apps or an hdmi input.
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I’m not clear. What do u mean it “restarts with the last non-app input”? What about the last app u were watching? I swear this thing used to power on and went straight to “whatever” I was watching before, be it apps or an hdmi input.
If I was watching antenna before launching youtube(internal app) it restarts on antenna. If I was watching via an hdmi input, then launched an internal app, it restarts on that hdmi input. In any scenario I've tried it hasn't restarted on the last internal app I was watching.

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If I was watching antenna before launching youtube(internal app) it restarts on antenna. If I was watching via an hdmi input, then launched an internal app, it restarts on that hdmi input. In any scenario I've tried it hasn't restarted on the last internal app I was watching.
Hmm. Ok. So I’m not completely crazy. Maybe I was using the external apps before from my Apple TV or roku, but I would’ve sworn that it restarted the internal apps as well, when powered on. Thanks for the help!!
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Has anybody switched and using the tv as the main hub? I have a non-4K receiver and have setup ARC, but keep having issues. The receiver (Marantz) for some reason keeps resulting to TV even after I have selected an activity.

I do have the 4K Blu-ray with dual HDMI split to TV and receiver. However, I’m considering switching to using the tv and letting it route cable through the tv. One issue is I only ran one extra HDMI cable through the wall. I’m sure it’s possible to get another through, but probably going to be a bit of a PITA.


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Wow...I may have discovered something huge around this one. I can't be 100% sure but it looking pretty likely:

As I mentioned previously I haven't tried any UHD content in some time, so I can't speak to that, however I have had many issues since updating the VUDU app that appeared to be network related, despite the fact that other streaming apps work flawlessly. I had issues where movies couldn't load at all, or where free stuff would hang after the commercial. I finally called VUDU and they had me power off and unplug the TV for some time (long enough for the red light to go out). This fixed the issue. However since then I've had to do that constantly. I've had other issues as well like seeking. The 15 second rewind was all but unusable and would lock up more often then not.

Check it out: Today after reverting from 5.30.03 to 4.31.20, resetting to the initial settings, and entering my calibrations etc, I set up VUDU. That required me to update the VUDU app. It updated to 3.0.24 (which I assume is the newest version...how on EARTH you check the version of an installed app is a mystery to me?). Believe it or not, tonight it's working flawlessly. The 15 second rewind is almost instantaneous....not issues so far at all.

Again...a little too soon to be sure, but it's starting to look like the new VUDO app is broken only when running under 5.30.03. I'll keep everyone posted, but it really is like night and day so far.

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A quick update on this one, as I know there were several here who had issues with UHD content with the latest Vudu app: Last night we watched Dunkirk in UHD and it played flawlessly. Again this is with the 4.31.20 LG firmware and the 3.0.24 version of the Vudu app. In general the Vudu app has been about flawless with the old LG firmware.

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Hey guys,

I have noticed recently that I have some weird/nasty stains on the screen, that don't look to be an image retention issue. It's a panel problem that needs to be treated with LG support/warranty?

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I have noticed recently that I have some weird/nasty stains on the screen, that don't look to be an image retention issue. It's a panel problem that needs to be treated with LG support/warranty?

Thank you,
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Looking at your pics that's not IR. I would file a warranty support claim with LG.

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I have noticed recently that I have some weird/nasty stains on the screen, that don't look to be an image retention issue. It's a panel problem that needs to be treated with LG support/warranty?

Thank you,
Marius
If it's still under warranty you should give them a call. Looks like...mold growing in the screen. Can you see anything there when the power is off...green growth? LOL I don't know, but yea give them a call for sure. Maybe someone sneezed on it or spilled some coffee on it during manufacturing.

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Pff, running now the build in panel pixel shift to see if it helps. Nothing is visible when the screen is off and its more visible on some colors. (TV has only a few hours, was bough a few months ago)
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Pff, running now the build in panel pixel shift to see if it helps. Nothing is visible when the screen is off and its more visible on some colors. (TV has only a few hours, was bough a few months ago)
Ok, but better wear a mask while messing around with it...play it safe. Something very strange going on there.

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I have noticed recently that I have some weird/nasty stains on the screen, that don't look to be an image retention issue. It's a panel problem that needs to be treated with LG support/warranty?

Thank you,
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Do you live alone? Looks to me like somebody spilled something on your screen, did't clean it up properly and didn't tell you about it.
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Hi Everyone,

Just got my B6P few days ago. Have questions re: settings for different types of media to avoid the judder and blur? My software version is - 04.31.20

HDR Mode

a) Online streaming (Amazon) - I think the source content is in 24p and the TV fails to smoothly convert it into 48p or 60p. Haven't checked on Netflix yet.

b) HDR 48p movies like the Hobbit - awful judder and blur - I can see picture doubling when the characters move fast

Cinema Mode

48 fps movies look 24p.

Is there the best mode and/or settings for watching movies from USB inputs/Streaming? I remember my old Samsung JU6500 perfectly converted all video content from the same external drive (even old hd movies and tv shows) into 48 fps and I did not event change any settings.
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Hi Everyone,

Just got my B6P few days ago. Have questions re: settings for different types of media to avoid the judder and blur? My software version is - 04.31.20

HDR Mode

a) Online streaming (Amazon) - I think the source content is in 24p and the TV fails to smoothly convert it into 48p or 60p. Haven't checked on Netflix yet.

b) HDR 48p movies like the Hobbit - awful judder and blur - I can see picture doubling when the characters move fast

Cinema Mode


48 fps movies look 24p.

Is there the best mode and/or settings for watching movies from USB inputs/Streaming? I remember my old Samsung JU6500 perfectly converted all video content from the same external drive (even old hd movies and tv shows) into 48 fps and I did not event change any settings.
There's a lot of personal preference for this. I use DJ 1 and DB 10 for cable and Real Cinema for my Apple TV 4k with true motion off.

Long thread but a good read with a lot of information that should help you find your preference.

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Upgrading to E8

Some of the features on the 2018 LG's really have me tempted to upgrade this year. Specifically [email protected], BFI, and (reportedly) the best motion on a LG OLED to date.

However, I've got a really good panel on my B6 (Thanks Cleveland Plasma!). No banding and paning shots look great, much better uniformity than the Samsung plasma F8500 that now resides in the bedroom. As much as I like the new features I'm not sure I'm willing to play the panel lottery.
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Hi Everyone,

Just got my B6P few days ago. Have questions re: settings for different types of media to avoid the judder and blur? My software version is - 04.31.20

HDR Mode

a) Online streaming (Amazon) - I think the source content is in 24p and the TV fails to smoothly convert it into 48p or 60p. Haven't checked on Netflix yet.

b) HDR 48p movies like the Hobbit - awful judder and blur - I can see picture doubling when the characters move fast

Cinema Mode

48 fps movies look 24p.

Is there the best mode and/or settings for watching movies from USB inputs/Streaming? I remember my old Samsung JU6500 perfectly converted all video content from the same external drive (even old hd movies and tv shows) into 48 fps and I did not event change any settings.
Since when is the Hobbit in HDR, and since when has it been released for home viewing at its native 48fps? What other 48fps movies are you referring to? I don't know of any movies that stream native 48fps and no movie has been released on disc at that frame rate since Blu-ray doesn't support it as far as I know.

Sounds like you probably have motion interpolation on. I personally recommend turning that all off as it is never perfect, and destroys the original artistic intent anyway. Keep Real Cinema on, as that allows for proper 24fps playback, but turn off TruMotion dejudder and deblur settings imo.

Deblur only affects interpolation of content higher than 30fps, so for example, news and sports, to 120hz. Dejudder is the main setting that affects anything 30fps or under. The higher the setting, the more interpolation you're applying. It results in a higher frame rate, but you're going to get way more artifacts and inconsistent conversions (occasional frame drops as you've seen). If you turn both to 0, and keep Real Cinema on, you see the original content at their original frame rate. 24fps content plays at a proper 24fps cadence, 60fps content plays at 60fps. No interpolation, no pulldown judder, just proper frame rate playback.

But some people don't like the way that looks, so YMMV.

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Some of the features on the 2018 LG's really have me tempted to upgrade this year. Specifically [email protected], BFI, and (reportedly) the best motion on a LG OLED to date.

However, I've got a really good panel on my B6 (Thanks Cleveland Plasma!). No banding and paning shots look great, much better uniformity than the Samsung plasma F8500 that now resides in the bedroom. As much as I like the new features I'm not sure I'm willing to play the panel lottery.
Ditto.

I plan to monitor and see whether near-black panel uniformity has taken big strides (forward) in 2018...

The main features that appeal to me for upgrading froma 65C6P to a 65 or 77C8P are:

-3D-LUT and Autocal (with Calman) as well as ability to calibrate all HDR modes (especially DV).

-Support for all HDR standards including Technicolor HDR.

-ABL should be improved at least to 2017 levels and possibly beyond.

-Improved motion and especially BFI support.

But after slugging my way through 8 defective OLEDs before landing my close-to-perfect 65C6P from CP, I also have no interest in jumping into another panel lottery...
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I have noticed recently that I have some weird/nasty stains on the screen, that don't look to be an image retention issue. It's a panel problem that needs to be treated with LG support/warranty?

Thank you,
Marius
Looks like the stains are gone now, after running the oled pixel shift operation. Pfffuuuu, got me real scared. Wondering now from where I got those weird IRs?
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Looks like the stains are gone now, after running the oled pixel shift operation. Pfffuuuu, got me real scared. Wondering now from where I got those weird IRs?
Weren't watching some ghostly type movies were ya? Lol. Don't know, that was the strangest one I have ever seen...even stranger that it cleared up. But glad it did....
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Ok, really weird thing, I’m not sure if anyone else noticed this but when I watch HDR game mode on my Directv 4K HDR I do not notice any lower brightness than watching HDR standard mode, so is the dimming of HDR game mode only able to be seen during an actual game, I definitely noticed a dim HDR game mode when actually playing a game but notice no HDR dimming when watching 4K HDR on any other source in HDR game mode???


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Hey guys, owned my b6p for a bit over a year now and beginning to notice a greenish tint blob in the center upperthird of the screen. Tried the panel reset but it seemed to have made it worse. LG is sending out a tech on 1/18 but it's on our dime since our warranty was up on 11/14/17. Anyone experience this? Funny that there were no artifacts visible when the set was new.
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Some of the features on the 2018 LG's really have me tempted to upgrade this year. Specifically [email protected], BFI, and (reportedly) the best motion on a LG OLED to date.

However, I've got a really good panel on my B6 (Thanks Cleveland Plasma!). No banding and paning shots look great, much better uniformity than the Samsung plasma F8500 that now resides in the bedroom. As much as I like the new features I'm not sure I'm willing to play the panel lottery.
IF I were in the market for a new TV (with a year old B6, I'm not!), I would definitely choose the new 2018's with their improvements. But these are still just incremental level improvements, nothing (to me) major, so why spill another $3K? I think that by 2020 we may see some REAL improvement and then I would consider it. Meantime, my enjoyment of football and UHD movies (HDR and DV) is completely unabated by the fact that the new models are a bit brighter and have improved internal processing. When the improvements reach out and slap me, THEN I'll think about upgrading.

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Looking at your pics that's not IR. I would file a warranty support claim with LG.
That is real weird, have not seen that before.......
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IF I were in the market for a new TV (with a year old B6, I'm not!), I would definitely choose the new 2018's with their improvements. But these are still just incremental level improvements, nothing (to me) major, so why spill another $3K? I think that by 2020 we may see some REAL improvement and then I would consider it. Meantime, my enjoyment of football and UHD movies (HDR and DV) is completely unabated by the fact that the new models are a bit brighter and have improved internal processing. When the improvements reach out and slap me, THEN I'll think about upgrading.
I understand completely and it's a matter of how you value the improvements. Motion handling improvement is of definite interest to me. I wouldn't look to make a move until the fall sweet spot for pricing... so plenty of time to read reviews, evaluate in person, and see what issues pop up in the owners threads here.
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