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The detail this Tv puts out is so good I wanna lick the screen I shouldn't have any problems with running the backlight @ 45 and contrast 80? and when in hdr @ 50
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Sharpness of 20 is the default on game mode. It shouldn't really cause that amount of grain when there is literally no grain in the source.

The black crush is inevitable. There's something wrong with the tv when you can't vary the brightness setting by more than 4 clicks without it looking very off in one way or another. You're either crushing blacks or you're washing out the picture and adding noise. That's just the way it is.


Just because it's the default doesn't mean you have to use it.
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Any vertical banding when watching ie. sports (panning shots), on the B6?

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Can peeple who have the tv post pictures of 5% and 3% to see if there is vignetting ?
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Can peeple who have the tv post pictures of 5% and 3% to see if there is vignetting ?
Go back and flip through the pages of posts. I have yet to see a photo of vignetting on any 2016 model. I did read someone said they had it on their B6 maybe?

I would say the issue is dramatically reduced from 2015's issues, if not eliminated completely. I have yet to see any photo proving otherwise.
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Any vertical banding when watching ie. sports (panning shots), on the B6?
Not a hint of it on mine and that's my hot button. It's also the reason I tolerate a bit of vignetting (not often seen in content) on the extreme right. I've always been fearful that swapping would lead to one with banding.
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New C6 owner exchanged my p65 hours ago and so far very happy, I have not ran any test patterns yet but build date is from May
Hi, I'm interested to know what motivated you to exchange and how they compare? Those two TVs are on my shortlist.
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Not sure if this has been posted here yet, but I just had a call from Richer Sounds who informed me that LG has issued a recall on these TV's...<br /><br />Not all of them, only a few serial numbers (he wouldn't tell me which ones, despite me asking). All he said was that there is an "inherent software problem" to which I assume is the motion juddering issues people with earlier models have been reporting. Mine was built in June and fortunately isn't one of the ones being recalled. Post from a UK owner so this is interesting
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So it seems the recent batches that has been shipped of the b6 some have some type of software issues and they have been recalled. Not all of the batch but some. This is from the UK site
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When they say 'recalled', if true, I wonder what is meant? If it's simply a software issue, that should be easily remedied in-home with a software update.
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When they say 'recalled', if true, I wonder what is meant? If it's simply a software issue, that should be easily remedied in-home with a software update.
That was my thinking as well it's weird
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Go back and flip through the pages of posts. I have yet to see a photo of vignetting on any 2016 model. I did read someone said they had it on their B6 maybe?

I would say the issue is dramatically reduced from 2015's issues, if not eliminated completely. I have yet to see any photo proving otherwise.
Well here's one. As I say, it's rarely seen, but it is there on the right.
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Well here's one. As I say, it's rarely seen, but it is there on the right.
And here is another. My first B6 had a lack of uniformity with noticeable vertical bands with different shades of gray even up to 15% slides and on 10% and below you could see the vignette on the right side only. It also had a slight yellow band at 100%. I noticed the lack of uniformity on dark content so I exchanged it. My second TV is now brighter on the sides, but it is brighter on both sides, so I personally find that less distracting but it is noticeable in very dark scenes. It is also much more uniform across the screen with no significant vertical bands and 100% looks good, so I've kept the 2nd TV.



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I share their opinion about brighter being better, but I could certainly see someone else preferring that the screen go darker. At least the 2nd set I have is symmetrical.

I do want to be clear that I'm very happy overall with my TV. Nothing is going to be perfect and prefer these imperfections to any LED TV I've seen to date.
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Could anyone with a C model confirm that there is a 2 point white balance option available in the HDR Standard mode? From what I've read the latest firmware update (3.15.25) provided that option but it has not been rolled out to my B model, nor is it available for download.


This text in the C6 download page, would lead me to believe that it is compatible with all 2016 OLED models.

SW File(Version 03.15.25) for **UH9500-UA,75UH8500-UD,**UH8500-UA,75UH6550-UB,OLED*5*6P-U
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Could anyone with a C model confirm that there is a 2 point white balance option available in the HDR Standard mode? From what I've read the latest firmware update (3.15.25) provided that option but it has not been rolled out to my B model, nor is it available for download.


This text in the C6 download page, would lead me to believe that it is compatible with all 2016 OLED models.

SW File(Version 03.15.25) for **UH9500-UA,75UH8500-UD,**UH8500-UA,75UH6550-UB,OLED*5*6P-U
I'll check when I'm home from work aND post. Probably 6pm ET
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I am hearing a lot about OLED not looking so good with cable, and while I care how BluRay looks more I still watch mostly FIOS these days and I worry that many FIOS channels might not look as good on an OLED as they do on my KURO. Even on the KURO some look like crap sometimes, but most of what I watch usually looks pretty satisfyingly good unless I have literally just watched a BluRay than I can see how it pales in comparison. But the majority of the time I am very happy with how cable looks with my 111FD and even if the B6 is 1000 times better with BR it would be disappointing if the B6 isn't as good with cable. I don't really know what to think here...



This was my major concern prior to purchasing this TV. If 10% of my viewing is awesome but 90% is worse than before, it would not be worth the money at all. I have to say that I am very happy with the result. I have DirectTV and OTA and per advice on the forum I set the DTV receiver to pass the native signal and let the TV upscale it. It looks surprisingly good, once I turned off all of the enhancements and motion processing.


I will note that there are settings that will give a very bad picture. In particular, I was watching NFL network with shorts of the 2015 season and the players had something like a blurry halo around them as the moved. I thought I had really made a mistake purchasing the TV, but I discovered edge enhancement and another processing option was on. I turned those off and the picture looks good.


I will say that if you watch something with varied quality of the content, like the news, you will see a big difference in PQ. The in studio picture will be great but the on site footage will vary and the low quality content is much more obvious than other TVs that I have in the house. My viewpoint is "garbage in/garbage out" and I don't blame the TV for that. I suspect other 4K TVs would demonstrate similar problems.


I will note that I have not viewed a DVD or any SD content, so I cannot comment on that.
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When they say 'recalled', if true, I wonder what is meant? If it's simply a software issue, that should be easily remedied in-home with a software update.
I remember back in the day I did a bad firmware update and rendered the product useless.....Probably something like that, if true like you noted. The only unit TV I know of that had a recall was the old, old Pioneers for there power supply.
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So I just took delivery of a new receiver (Marantz NR1606) and I'm hoping you guys could give me some input on the best approach for hooking up my components. I have the following:

DirecTV 4K Genie
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and of course the internal apps on my LG B6

Is it considered best to always connect sources directly to the TV? How about audio - does ARC bring any limitations or should I attempt to connect audio direct to the receiver?

Thanks for the help.
If you can get Audio Working through HDMI (either direct HDMI or through ARC) you have the potential to get better sound than through Optical/RCA SPDIF because those are limited to lossy formats or 2 Channel.

It somewhat depends on your sources and your receiver.
Thanks. I have everything hooked up through the receiver for now. My UHD player arrives today so I'll see what happens with that. Right now I'm wondering if I will need different input settings on the TV for certain sources. More to learn....
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This is what worries me the most about buying online. Not so much that you can't return it if you don't like it, I have checked out the C6 and B6 locally and know I like them. I'm more concerned about getting a panel that has an issue on it, be it banding or scratches or whatever. Even going through Amazon or another reputable online store like the forum sponsor that is mentioned so often concerns me. Amazon will only allow so many returns before they cut you off and my understanding is that CP only will allow returns if you find a problem when the TV is very first delivered. The savings just from tax are a fair amount so I'm still leaning that way. How is LG in regards to warranty replacements? I would assume that at a certain point LG says enough is enough if you keep seeing issues with replacement after replacement.
Remember, in some (all?) states, you're legally obligated to pay sales tax on out-of-state purchases anyway. Best Buy seems quite willing to adjust their price to match the before-tax price you'll pay online, except now the tax is included and you have no obligation to pay anything at a later point (whether or not you intended to do so). You'll have a pretty hard time getting CP-level pricing out of Best Buy, but they'll easily match someplace like B&H, which doesn't charge tax on orders shipped to most states.
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^ Well remember my comparisons are between that very same 940c you mentioned and my B6. The picture on the Sony is great, but the OLED is just better.
Is your 940c or B6 calibrated? Without having both sets calibrated to a common standard, most comparisons are meaningless.
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^No, he doesn't get his sets calibrated. And I think meaningless is a bit of an overstatement.
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And here is another. My first B6 had a lack of uniformity with noticeable vertical bands with different shades of gray even up to 15% slides and on 10% and below you could see the vignette on the right side only. It also had a slight yellow band at 100%. I noticed the lack of uniformity on dark content so I exchanged it. My second TV is now brighter on the sides, but it is brighter on both sides, so I personally find that less distracting but it is noticeable in very dark scenes. It is also much more uniform across the screen with no significant vertical bands and 100% looks good, so I've kept the 2nd TV.
It is definitely the panel lottery...there's a tiny hint of vignette on the right-hand side of my current G6 (not a problem to me) but also one significant band left of center that is more pronounced than my liking, showing up in content more than I'd like so it nags. It cost too much to just live with it, and I'm all used up with Best Buy returns, so I'm hoping LG does the right thing again.
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Any vertical banding when watching ie. sports (panning shots), on the B6?
No. We've been watching 4K Baseball (Blue Jays) and 1080i Tennis (Rogers Cup). No issues at all.
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Hi, I'm interested to know what motivated you to exchange and how they compare? Those two TVs are on my shortlist.
The overall picture quality of the C6 is much better handles the colors nothing looks washed out all streaming services load faster and less ramp up times.. Don't get me wrong the p65 looked good streamed in 4k hdr but other than that the tv just wasn't for me, the p series has some bugs granted I did pay 2800 more and very happy got more WOW factor watching my C6
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I remember back in the day I did a bad firmware update and rendered the product useless.....Probably something like that, if true like you noted. The only unit TV I know of that had a recall was the old, old Pioneers for there power supply.
I can't help but think this is related to some safety issue if this is a true 'recall'.
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And here is another. My first B6 had a lack of uniformity with noticeable vertical bands with different shades of gray even up to 15% slides and on 10% and below you could see the vignette on the right side only. It also had a slight yellow band at 100%. I noticed the lack of uniformity on dark content so I exchanged it. My second TV is now brighter on the sides, but it is brighter on both sides, so I personally find that less distracting but it is noticeable in very dark scenes. It is also much more uniform across the screen with no significant vertical bands and 100% looks good, so I've kept the 2nd TV.



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I share their opinion about brighter being better, but I could certainly see someone else preferring that the screen go darker. At least the 2nd set I have is symmetrical.

I do want to be clear that I'm very happy overall with my TV. Nothing is going to be perfect and prefer these imperfections to any LED TV I've seen to date.


Its seem to be that there are only little vignetting on the right side of the tv if any...
All I really want to know is...
If I see vignetting on my tv can I exchange it?or is it not in the warenty?
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Is your 940c or B6 calibrated? Without having both sets calibrated to a common standard, most comparisons are meaningless.
Both have not been professionally calibrated and both are in their best/ISF modes. So I don't see either having an advantage over the other in terms of these comparisons. Fight on Wizziwig!

These are the first two sets I haven't yet gotten calibrated. All my prior displays were professionally calibrated, but largely because no matter what I did, they didn't look right.
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Hello all, I've noticed that on a pure white screen I hey a pinkish hue on the left side of the screen. I think I've read this before, but wondering if I should exchange it for another set? It's not that bad, but I did notice it a bit playing a hockey video game tonight.

Are many other people seeing this pinkish hue, or is it rare and did I very unlucky?

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I'm pretty sure that it's commonplace for these sets.

A friend of mine has exchanged 4 times now (5 total sets) and all exhibit the pink tint on the left side. I have done 3 exchanges and had the same result. If your set doesn't have vignetting on the right side (or very little of it), I would say either accept it or move on, It won't go away.
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Go back and flip through the pages of posts. I have yet to see a photo of vignetting on any 2016 model. I did read someone said they had it on their B6 maybe?

I would say the issue is dramatically reduced from 2015's issues, if not eliminated completely. I have yet to see any photo proving otherwise.
So maybe not eliminated, since others posted the photo proving otherwise lol... But I'm still hopeful my "dramatically reduced" statement wasn't complete BS too!
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It is definitely the panel lottery. ....showing up in content more than I'd like so it nags. It cost too much to just live with it.
I completely agree and I hope they take care of you. For that money the "Flagship" model, should be just that. Personally I think the returns are built into their pricing.

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LG Home Entertainment Company had a record US$306.97M operating profit on revenues of US$3.58B, a 5.7 percent increase from this time last year. This was driven by the growing market for premium TVs – especially in the OLED screen segment. An increase in sales of higher-end ULTRA HD and OLED TVs and improved cost structure management contributed to an operating margin of 8.6%. It will continue to benefit from the growing UHD and OLED TV markets and cost competitiveness, although cost increases for flat-panel components may affect profitability.
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