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How are you playing Atmos though your PS4 Pro? The PS4 Pro doesn't support 4K bluray and the apps don't have Atmos support.

I'm asking because I have a PS4 Pro & an Xbox One S / X and I don't see any Atmos option on PS4 Pro.

Unless you mean your streaming bitstream Dolby from your PS4 and the soundbar is outputting it as Atmos.

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Yes i set audio option to bitstream, soundbar shows it as dolby atmos. Works if the blu-ray has dolby atmos audio option. For example i have all 7 seasons of game of thrones in blu-ray, it has dolby atmos audio option. I also have dolby atmos demo disc did some testing with it.
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All enhancement settings are turned off. Real Cinema is set to on but is greyed out. I've never had to go in and change anything when going from watching something else and switching over to sports before which tells me it's not something in my settings.

Unless I had been missing this for a long time and just noticed it now, this has cropped up fairly recently. Does anyone know if Sports Center runs at 60fps or is it only live sports? I'm seeing it on Sports Center and can clearly see it affect the ticker scroll at the bottom of the screen when it happens. It goes from running smoothly to becoming choppy/stuttery for a split second then back to smooth again.
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Yes i set audio option to bitstream, soundbar shows it as dolby atmos. Works if the blu-ray has dolby atmos audio option. For example i have all 7 seasons of game of thrones in blu-ray, it has dolby atmos audio option. I also have dolby atmos demo disc did some testing with it.
Ah, ok. Just wondered if I was missing something. Thanks

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All enhancement settings are turned off. Real Cinema is set to on but is greyed out. I've never had to go in and change anything when going from watching something else and switching over to sports before which tells me it's not something in my settings.

Unless I had been missing this for a long time and just noticed it now, this has cropped up fairly recently. Does anyone know if Sports Center runs at 60fps or is it only live sports? I'm seeing it on Sports Center and can clearly see it affect the ticker scroll at the bottom of the screen when it happens. It goes from running smoothly to becoming choppy/stuttery for a split second then back to smooth again.
What do you have the DirecTV resolution set at? It should be set at native. Same with the AVR if you have the stb going into your avr first. If it is set correctly, turn off the tv, unplug, and depress and hold the power button for 20 to 25 seconds. This acts like a cold reboot and kills any hung processes that could mess with motion. Plug tv back in and power up. Also reset the DirecTV box. When I start noticing glitches while watching DirecTV, I do that and it clears up any issues i have.
Just heading to bed now but can say for sure DirecTV is set to native. Will double check AVR in morning but that should be same also. This is my first time hearing about this "cold reboot". Hopefully this is the answer. I'll try this tomorrow. Thanks!
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CBS may potentially engage real cinema, as it runs at 60i. Not sure if that's what's going on, but it's an idea. I've seen weird ticker behavior on MLB and NFL Network with real cinema on, both of which run at 60i. Not during games, but during other programs. Never noticed on ESPN, and I no longer have cable to test. ESPN runs at 60p so shouldn't engage real cinema at all. I also have an EG9100, so no guarantee the behavior is the same.
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This. The only reason I would willingly buy another TV is to upgrade, and nothing out there is an upgrade over my 3D OLED!
For the most part that is correct, only other option is the Sony XBR-65Z9D which is still current and 3D......
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Try game mode as a temporary test. It's been shown to shut off various video processing features which can cause motion issues on many brands/models. If you still see it, then it's not a question of TV settings and likely something coming from your source device.
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Help me chose the correct or as best as possible settings please for setup on my PC.

For HDR gaming, what should the following be set to:
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Output Color: RGB, 4:2:2 or 4:2:0
Output Colour Depth: 10 or 12 bpc
Dynamic Control: Full (for RGB) or limited

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Input Label: PC or Game Console
Contrast: 100 or lower
Dynamic Contrast: Off, Low, Medium or High
Gamma: Low, Medium, High1 or High2
Black Level: Low or High

And also what settings for SDR Gaming.

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For the most part that is correct, only other option is the Sony XBR-65Z9D which is still current and 3D......
Unless that TV has the same issue as the 65930D, where the 3D is completely broken.

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Yeah the 20pt controls made a pretty noticeable improvement imo, but I don't use HDR Standard for very much because HDR Game and Dolby Vision modes offer better PQ most of the time, but I do still use HDR Standard for movies that don't have super bright highlights or Dolby Vision support, and also for HDR content on Amazon, so it is beneficial in those situations, but my SDR calibration has been more useful overall. If you use HDR Standard a lot, though, then it's definitely worth calibrating that for sure.

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Thank you. I think standard is all I got since most things I own are just HDR 10 movies and I don’t have games. Unless maybe I should be playing some movies in games mode. I’ll try that out too soon.

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Hi guys. I really need my power cable on my B6 to be longer. I don't like the idea of using an extension cord. Any help with this from someone? Anyone else had to do this? I can't be the only one. Thanks!
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Thank you. I think standard is all I got since most things I own are just HDR 10 movies and I don’t have games. Unless maybe I should be playing some movies in games mode. I’ll try that out too soon.

These TVs are just unbelievably good at everything. Thank God we got these
When I know a movie has a maxCLL > 500 and maxFALL > 250 I use HDR Game because otherwise I feel like HDR Standard wouldn't do the movie justice. Or if I don't have that information, I will use HDR Game on any movie that received a "bright highlights" score of 5 on the AVSForum review, or if I otherwise have heard that the movie has bright highlights.
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I think you can go to amazon and buy a longer power cord.
That may be the case but I'm not sure what power cable I'm looking for. As an owner I'm sure you know the power cable is attached to the TV and not a NEMA cable that can be detached. Thanks for the response. If you know what I'm looking for and could pass it along I'd appreciate it. I may have a solution as I am adding a power conditioner in the mix so I may not need the longer cable afterwards but would definitely like to know. Thanks.

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That may be the case but I'm not sure what power cable I'm looking for. As an owner I'm sure you know the power cable is attached to the TV and not a NEMA cable that can be detached. Thanks for the response. If you know what I'm looking for and could pass it along I'd appreciate it. I may have a solution as I am adding a power conditioner in the mix so I may not need the longer cable afterwards but would definitely like to know. Thanks.


I also wish my cord was longer (9ft not 6 ft) and black, not white. Too bad LG did not use a detachable cord.


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I also wish my cord was longer and black, not white. Too bad LG did not use a detachable cord.


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Yeah I agree pretty dumpy that the cable cannot be (easily) detached and replaced. I do see a screw next to where the cable goes into the TV but haven't gone down the path of taking that off to see what's inside. Has anyone done that?

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For the most part that is correct, only other option is the Sony XBR-65Z9D which is still current and 3D......
Still current and 3D, but not an upgrade over an OLED (in my opinion, of course).

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When are you guys with b6/c6 thinking getting a new tv and will it be an OLED? I've had b6 for a year and i don't think i will need another tv for years yet. Probably could not notice much difference in pq compared to 2018 models.
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I probably won't get another TV until I can get a 4000 nit OLED lol. Good chance I'll be sticking with this TV for quite some time. Heck even if I get another TV I'll probably still keep this one for 3D.

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For sure if you want today's 3D technology!

I bought my B6 about the same time as OwnerOfLg (just after the 2017 specs were announced) and have waited with bated breath to see if LG or Sony would make it obselete in a year or two -- didn't happen. Slight upgrade sure, but huge clearly visible improvements? -- No!

So now I'm set until HDMI 2.1 finally gets wrapped up, rolled out and settles down. When? My bet is circa 2021 or later. (But see the quote from Bill Greenwald below.) And will that make a significant difference? IMO, for most people even at the higher end (OLED) and "tech freak" type, No. We have a long way to go before HDMI 2.1, HDR standards, 4K distribution methods and software catches up enough to "DEMAND" a new TV upgrade -- let alone deal with 8K.

From PC Mag, Jan 2018:
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Don't worry about getting new HDMI 2.1 devices and cables for now. It won't even be an option for most of this year, and widespread consumer adoption won't get rolling until 2019. In fact, the HDMI Forum won't finish publishing its HDMI 2.1 compliance testing specification, which is required to certify HDMI 2.1 products, until Q3 2018.

More importantly, that backward compatibility I mentioned means your TV, Blu-ray player, and other devices won't suddenly stop working when everything else has HDMI 2.1. The HDMI 2.0 devices you've bought in the last few years will still handle up to 4K60 video, and even when you get something new with HDMI 2.1, it'll still work just fine with everything else in your home theater. It just won't support 8K60.
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So an interesting anomaly with my C6 that has resulted in a positive. So I had notice from the beginning a small amount of pink tint on the the right and left side of my panel when viewing white and or black and white movies anyway didn't panic over as it was minor; it wasn't BI or IR as there was no defined image just an overall slight tine tint up and down on the right and left sides. So I've passed 2000 hours so I'm assuming the panel did its mandatory comp cycle... the end result is the image is even and clean like it never had been before. I don't know if the tint gradually went away as I broke the set in or if the Comp cycle was the fix. I also noticed that the 5% grey issues that many talk about have smoothed out over time. Glad I'm over the obsessive compulsive behaviors of my youth because I'm fairly certain I would have rushed this thing back several times before giving it a chance to break in.
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Unless that TV has the same issue as the 65930D, where the 3D is completely broken.
Well, do not see any complaints in the Z9D thread about that.......
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Well, do not see any complaints in the Z9D thread about that.......

Chris, make sure to keep it that way and not let them borrow any 2016 OLEDs
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HDMI 2.1 is pointless in the home imo. 8K will never succeed. 4K probably wouldn't have without HDR. And TVs will never use variable refresh rates because consoles won't want or need to. Variable refresh rate is essentially solving a problem that doesn't exist on console, because when you know what hardware you're working with, you can optimize around a consistent performance target. That's something you can't do on PC, so while variable refresh rate may be preferable by some on PC (many more would prefer a consistent cap), TVs don't typically cater to PCs.

If I'm going to upgrade, it's going to be because a TV is finally able to fully realize what the existing HDR spec was designed to do.
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An extension cord will be fine. Any other way will be complicated
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Yeah I agree pretty dumpy that the cable cannot be (easily) detached and replaced. I do see a screw next to where the cable goes into the TV but haven't gone down the path of taking that off to see what's inside. Has anyone done that?
Yes, it connects to a board like power would attach to a computer board
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HDMI 2.1 is pointless in the home imo.
eARC is a big improvement, since now you get lossless audio through eARC.
Quick Media Switching (QMS) is great, since when you switch refresh rate, resolution, or color space there's no going black for 2-5 seconds.
I disagree just a little on 8K. I don't think 8K will have even close to the adoption rate of 4K (and that's been really slow), but it'll eventually get to be the standard. But yeah, the difference between 1080p and 4K isn't that huge, so 4K and 8K will be even less. The real improvements are like you said, HDR (and Dynamic HDR in HDMI 2.1).
VRR is definitely going to be an improvement, even on consoles (like the Xbox One X). Not an 'OH EM GEE' improvement, but it's still an improvement in smoothness when the fps fluctuate.
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eARC is a big improvement, since now you get lossless audio through eARC.
Quick Media Switching (QMS) is great, since when you switch refresh rate, resolution, or color space there's no going black for 2-5 seconds.
I disagree just a little on 8K. I don't think 8K will have even close to the adoption rate of 4K (and that's been really slow), but it'll eventually get to be the standard. But yeah, the difference between 1080p and 4K isn't that huge, so 4K and 8K will be even less. The real improvements are like you said, HDR (and Dynamic HDR in HDMI 2.1).
VRR is definitely going to be an improvement, even on consoles (like the Xbox One X). Not an 'OH EM GEE' improvement, but it's still an improvement in smoothness when the fps fluctuate.
Difference between 4K and 8K won't be noticeable at all for probably >99% of homes. Most people who have 4K aren't even seeing 4K worth of detail at their screen size/distance ratio. When you factor in digital intermedia resolutions it makes even less sense. 8K pretty much only is useful for the largest IMAX screens imo.

eARC I agree, makes no sense why that didn't exist from the start, same with quick media switching, but that sounds like more of a failure of display technology than transmission format. There's no reason it ever needed to cut to black. VRR I don't see consoles using at all, as that would encourage developers to be lazy in optimization. That will be something PC monitors use, but I don't see it being used on TVs much at all.

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50hz support? (for Europe)

Hi all,
Does the B6P support 50hz video input over HDMI? I'm having a hard time finding a definitive answer, or even detailed specs for my 65" B6 (OLED65B6P).

I'm moving to the UK and probably leaving the TV behind, but want to be sure that's a good decision because I really love this TV.
I know it's the North American variant (vs. the 6V), so for power I'd need a high-quality step down transformer to deal with both power voltage and frequency. And it lacks a built-in DVB-T tuner for OTA.
But even if I use a DVB-T tuner or set-top box from pay TV provider, it's all going to use 50hz video! I assume that even my existing US devices like Xbox and AppleTV will probably use 50hz content unless I login as if I'm still in the U.S.

So does the B6 support 50hz natively and "just work" (unlikely), or does it take a lot of work and/or have too many drawbacks? I'd be OK with some judder watching 50hz content, for example, but beyond that I'm thinking it makes more sense to sell the TV and buy something new in the UK.
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Hi all,

Does the B6P support 50hz video input over HDMI? I'm having a hard time finding a definitive answer, or even detailed specs for my 65" B6 (OLED65B6P).



I'm moving to the UK and probably leaving the TV behind, but want to be sure that's a good decision because I really love this TV.

I know it's the North American variant (vs. the 6V), so for power I'd need a high-quality step down transformer to deal with both power voltage and frequency. And it lacks a built-in DVB-T tuner for OTA.

But even if I use a DVB-T tuner or set-top box from pay TV provider, it's all going to use 50hz video! I assume that even my existing US devices like Xbox and AppleTV will probably use 50hz content unless I login as if I'm still in the U.S.



So does the B6 support 50hz natively and "just work" (unlikely), or does it take a lot of work and/or have too many drawbacks? I'd be OK with some judder watching 50hz content, for example, but beyond that I'm thinking it makes more sense to sell the TV and buy something new in the UK.


It supports native 50i content yes

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Hi all,
Does the B6P support 50hz video input over HDMI? I'm having a hard time finding a definitive answer, or even detailed specs for my 65" B6 (OLED65B6P).

I'm moving to the UK and probably leaving the TV behind, but want to be sure that's a good decision because I really love this TV.
I know it's the North American variant (vs. the 6V), so for power I'd need a high-quality step down transformer to deal with both power voltage and frequency. And it lacks a built-in DVB-T tuner for OTA.
But even if I use a DVB-T tuner or set-top box from pay TV provider, it's all going to use 50hz video! I assume that even my existing US devices like Xbox and AppleTV will probably use 50hz content unless I login as if I'm still in the U.S.

So does the B6 support 50hz natively and "just work" (unlikely), or does it take a lot of work and/or have too many drawbacks? I'd be OK with some judder watching 50hz content, for example, but beyond that I'm thinking it makes more sense to sell the TV and buy something new in the UK.
My experience is that the TV will play 50i but won't report it. The Xbox One refuses to send 50i content because it doesn't report it so. But if I force Apple TV 4K or my Oppo 203 to send 50i, it displays it just fine. The internal netflix app chokes on 50i content and is out of sync but the Amazon app plays it fine. Apple TV plays the same content on netflix and amazon at 50i without lipsync issues.

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I have a question to other owners regarding IR, it has been annoying me for a while now that static images on my set can cause pretty visible IR in around 30 seconds to 1 minute I have read of people being worried about it (and I do baby this set as much as I can) but I have had no real stats on it other than some people use it as a computer monitor with no IR visible which would be crazy for my set.

We recently had the panel replaced due to very visible lines showing vertically on the screen I was hoping that would help with the IR but now it seems to be the same if not worse, it is like the pixel shift option does not work. And my girlfriends question to the technician was met with a bland these things happen.

Should I try and follow this up, how long does it take for cloudy ghostly images to bleed into your screen?
Thanks for the help
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I have a question to other owners regarding IR, it has been annoying me for a while now that static images on my set can cause pretty visible IR in around 30 seconds to 1 minute I have read of people being worried about it (and I do baby this set as much as I can) but I have had no real stats on it other than some people use it as a computer monitor with no IR visible which would be crazy for my set.

We recently had the panel replaced due to very visible lines showing vertically on the screen I was hoping that would help with the IR but now it seems to be the same if not worse, it is like the pixel shift option does not work. And my girlfriends question to the technician was met with a bland these things happen.

Should I try and follow this up, how long does it take for cloudy ghostly images to bleed into your screen?
Thanks for the help
Ghostly images don't happen. 1+ year and 4000+ hours.
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