2016 LG C6-B6 owners thread - Page 865 - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews
Forum Jump: 
 264302Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #25921 of 28442 Old 06-18-2018, 03:45 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
morphinapg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,039
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2456 Post(s)
Liked: 2075
Quote:
Originally Posted by NashGuy View Post
Nope. HDR Standard and HDR Bright use different gammas. Pause on a scene with a range of shades, from shadowy near-blacks to brighter areas. Go back and forth between HDR Standard and HDR Bright with everything else set the same between them, especially brightness and contrast. You'll see that HDR Bright just looks a bit lighter overall, kind of like switching between Gamma 2.2 and 2.4 on SDR content.
Interesting. I didn't notice that. Before I calibrated, I had set both modes to the same settings, and switching between the two I didn't notice anything different. I do now, because I calibrated on HDR Standard, but it's mostly a change in color, not much of a difference in EOTF.

Sent from my OnePlus One using Tapatalk

Living Room: Sony XBR65X930D, Sony HTCT780, Philips BDP7501
Bedroom: LG OLED55C6P, Denon AVR-X1300W (5.1.2), PS4 Pro, Sony UBP-X700, Chromecast Ultra
Check out my video game movie edits
morphinapg is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #25922 of 28442 Old 06-18-2018, 03:47 PM
Member
 
ryanmcv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 134
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 95 Post(s)
Liked: 59
Fix should be coming this month for Dolby Vision HDMI issues.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarc.../#30290b2a3ae2
ryanmcv is offline  
post #25923 of 28442 Old 06-18-2018, 03:54 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
mtbdudex's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SE Michigan
Posts: 6,932
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 85 Post(s)
Liked: 1571
2016 LG C6-B6 owners thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post
Any OLED will rock a home theater


Yep, my family room B6 oled beats out my basement HT JVC RS400 in pure visual PQ, but, the immersion of 130” diag scope screen still triumphs for serious movie watching.
With 9.2.4 Atmos audio for the balanced experience


However I do admit to lots of casual movie watching in the family room, more so since I’ve added 5.1.2 Atmos, soon 5.1.4



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
hobbs47 likes this.
mtbdudex is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #25924 of 28442 Old 06-18-2018, 03:54 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
mtbdudex's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SE Michigan
Posts: 6,932
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 85 Post(s)
Liked: 1571
Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmcv View Post
Fix should be coming this month for Dolby Vision HDMI issues.



https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarc.../#30290b2a3ae2


Hip hip hooray


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
mtbdudex is offline  
post #25925 of 28442 Old 06-18-2018, 04:09 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
morphinapg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,039
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2456 Post(s)
Liked: 2075
Quote:
Originally Posted by edo101 View Post
Thats something I always found interesting. Why TVs don't function as well as computer monitors? You are using an LCD display. Where is there such a difference between the two? And why is it that we don't all start using DisplayPort? HDMI was not a standard till HDTVs became mainstream...why can't DP become a standard so we can stop all this stuff. A lot of TVs get used as displays as much as they get used for theater use.

If something says 120HZ id expect it to function as 120Hz. If it cant recieve 120Hz from a PC then how can it recieve and process 120 hz when it comes to video sources?
HDMI is overall a better standard than DisplayPort, especially with HDMI 2.1. Very few people use TVs as computer monitors, and those that do are typically using them for HTPC, not gaming, so 120Hz input is less of a concern for TVs typically. The 120Hz is an important part of displaying 60Hz and 24Hz content correctly, so it's important to advertise for that reason.

I just connected my PC to the TV via a 15ft Premium Certified HDMI cable, enabled UHD Deep Color for that port, and tested creating a custom resolution in Nvidia Control Panel for 120Hz at both 1080p and 720p, and both gave me this:



So the TV definitely does NOT allow native 120Hz input, even if forced. It does however support 1080p and 720p 3D 60hz modes, which are technically 120Hz signals (although it's each eye at 60Hz), so that is quite disappointing.

Living Room: Sony XBR65X930D, Sony HTCT780, Philips BDP7501
Bedroom: LG OLED55C6P, Denon AVR-X1300W (5.1.2), PS4 Pro, Sony UBP-X700, Chromecast Ultra
Check out my video game movie edits
morphinapg is offline  
post #25926 of 28442 Old 06-18-2018, 04:14 PM
Senior Member
 
SeriousHorse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 400
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 11 Post(s)
Liked: 11
I tried the beta 05.30.30 firmware on my Australian C6 and was surprised that it recognised the file. Installed without a hitch.
Can report that HDR game mode is definitely brighter than it was. I run an Xbox One X into mine (HDR Game, no Dynamic Contrast) and I had to readjust the in-game settings for every HDR game I tried. It was a big difference.
Haven't had any time to assess any other changes.
SeriousHorse is offline  
post #25927 of 28442 Old 06-18-2018, 04:30 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Jrocker23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Staten Island, NY
Posts: 1,414
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 904 Post(s)
Liked: 876
Quote:
Originally Posted by SeriousHorse View Post
I tried the beta 05.30.30 firmware on my Australian C6 and was surprised that it recognised the file. Installed without a hitch.
Can report that HDR game mode is definitely brighter than it was. I run an Xbox One X into mine (HDR Game, no Dynamic Contrast) and I had to readjust the in-game settings for every HDR game I tried. It was a big difference.
Haven't had any time to assess any other changes.
Im gonna update tonight as well with the beta, Good news, thanks for sharing. I also found these improvements to from a european site


amendments
Ⓐ Video related bug fix
Ⓑ Fixed issue where LG content was saved
Ⓒ Netflix certification
Ⓓ Second picture error fixed
Ⓔ performance improvement
Ⓕ Image-related bug fixes
4 Video Bugfix 4.
Ⓗ Language-related bug fixes
Ⓘ HDMI Audio Interrupt Correction (MR Major)
Simultaneous activation of STB + TV
Improved fieldbreak problem in 3D OFF / ON
Ⓝ PS4 Pro HDR No image enhancement during game ON / OFF
Improved Compatibility Issue with UHD Reception STB (ATSC3.0)
Pop-up Guide feature is applied when the app's service is stopped
Ⓠ No signal picture Change wallpaper
Ⓡ Change the Amazon HDR mode
Bluetooth headset volume complaint response (05.30.20)

Living Room: LG OLED65C9, AVR Pioneer SC-LX502, Xbox One X, PS4 Pro, Nintendo Switch
Bedrooms: LG OLED65C8, LG OLED55C6, LG Soundbar NB3530A, Xbox One X
LG C6PUA Firmware Link https://www.lg.com/us/support/product/lg-OLED55C6P.AUS
LG C8PUA Firmware Link https://www.lg.com/us/support-produc...5C8PUA#manuals
LG C9PUA/AUA Firmware Link https://www.lg.com/us/support/produc...LED65C9PUA.AUS
Jrocker23 is online now  
post #25928 of 28442 Old 06-18-2018, 04:47 PM
Advanced Member
 
Viking 29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Alamogordo NM
Posts: 727
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 390 Post(s)
Liked: 308
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jrocker23 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by SeriousHorse View Post
I tried the beta 05.30.30 firmware on my Australian C6 and was surprised that it recognised the file. Installed without a hitch.
Can report that HDR game mode is definitely brighter than it was. I run an Xbox One X into mine (HDR Game, no Dynamic Contrast) and I had to readjust the in-game settings for every HDR game I tried. It was a big difference.
Haven't had any time to assess any other changes.
Im gonna update tonight as well with the beta, Good news, thanks for sharing. I also found these improvements to from a european site


amendments
Ⓐ Video related bug fix
Ⓑ Fixed issue where LG content was saved
Ⓒ Netflix certification
Ⓓ Second picture error fixed
Ⓔ performance improvement
Ⓕ Image-related bug fixes
4 Video Bugfix 4.
Ⓗ Language-related bug fixes
Ⓘ HDMI Audio Interrupt Correction (MR Major)
Simultaneous activation of STB + TV
Improved fieldbreak problem in 3D OFF / ON
Ⓝ PS4 Pro HDR No image enhancement during game ON / OFF
Improved Compatibility Issue with UHD Reception STB (ATSC3.0)
Pop-up Guide feature is applied when the app's service is stopped
Ⓠ No signal picture Change wallpaper
Ⓡ Change the Amazon HDR mode
Bluetooth headset volume complaint response (05.30.20)
I will be interested in knowing if it keeps the black floor raised on all content. If it does I won't be updating. Hopefully someone can verify.
Viking 29 is offline  
post #25929 of 28442 Old 06-18-2018, 04:53 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
morphinapg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,039
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2456 Post(s)
Liked: 2075
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jrocker23 View Post
Im gonna update tonight as well with the beta, Good news, thanks for sharing. I also found these improvements to from a european site


amendments
Ⓐ Video related bug fix
Ⓑ Fixed issue where LG content was saved
Ⓒ Netflix certification
Ⓓ Second picture error fixed
Ⓔ performance improvement
Ⓕ Image-related bug fixes
4 Video Bugfix 4.
Ⓗ Language-related bug fixes
Ⓘ HDMI Audio Interrupt Correction (MR Major)
Simultaneous activation of STB + TV
Improved fieldbreak problem in 3D OFF / ON
Ⓝ PS4 Pro HDR No image enhancement during game ON / OFF
Improved Compatibility Issue with UHD Reception STB (ATSC3.0)
Pop-up Guide feature is applied when the app's service is stopped
Ⓠ No signal picture Change wallpaper
Ⓡ Change the Amazon HDR mode
Bluetooth headset volume complaint response (05.30.20)
I'll be sad if the improved dynamic range of the HDR Game mode is gone, as I use that a lot even with movies in a dark room, but Dolby Vision performance is ultimately more important. I'm curious about what many of the other changes mean.

Sent from my OnePlus One using Tapatalk
nodixe likes this.

Living Room: Sony XBR65X930D, Sony HTCT780, Philips BDP7501
Bedroom: LG OLED55C6P, Denon AVR-X1300W (5.1.2), PS4 Pro, Sony UBP-X700, Chromecast Ultra
Check out my video game movie edits
morphinapg is offline  
post #25930 of 28442 Old 06-18-2018, 04:54 PM
Member
 
ryanmcv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 134
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 95 Post(s)
Liked: 59
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jrocker23 View Post
Im gonna update tonight as well with the beta, Good news, thanks for sharing. I also found these improvements to from a european site
Unless I'm mistaken, the only beta file that has leaked is for European models. Your US model will not recognize the firmware file.
Jrocker23 likes this.
ryanmcv is offline  
post #25931 of 28442 Old 06-18-2018, 05:06 PM
Senior Member
 
SeriousHorse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 400
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 11 Post(s)
Liked: 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmcv View Post
Unless I'm mistaken, the only beta file that has leaked is for European models. Your US model will not recognize the firmware file.
That's right - it won't be recognised on US sets. In this instance, Australia is considered part of Europe.

Quote:
Originally Posted by morphinapg View Post
I'll be sad if the improved dynamic range of the HDR Game mode is gone, as I use that a lot even with movies in a dark room, but Dolby Vision performance is ultimately more important. I'm curious about what many of the other changes mean.
I haven't noticed a loss of detail. But I should also say I didn't have a problem with the "dim" HDR Game mode on the previous version - adjusting each game (from within the game, not the set) was always the key.
SeriousHorse is offline  
post #25932 of 28442 Old 06-18-2018, 07:10 PM
Senior Member
 
edo101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 268
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 148 Post(s)
Liked: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by morphinapg View Post
I'll be sad if the improved dynamic range of the HDR Game mode is gone, as I use that a lot even with movies in a dark room, but Dolby Vision performance is ultimately more important. I'm curious about what many of the other changes mean.

Sent from my OnePlus One using Tapatalk
Quote:
Originally Posted by morphinapg View Post
HDMI is overall a better standard than DisplayPort, especially with HDMI 2.1. Very few people use TVs as computer monitors, and those that do are typically using them for HTPC, not gaming, so 120Hz input is less of a concern for TVs typically. The 120Hz is an important part of displaying 60Hz and 24Hz content correctly, so it's important to advertise for that reason.

I just connected my PC to the TV via a 15ft Premium Certified HDMI cable, enabled UHD Deep Color for that port, and tested creating a custom resolution in Nvidia Control Panel for 120Hz at both 1080p and 720p, and both gave me this:



So the TV definitely does NOT allow native 120Hz input, even if forced. It does however support 1080p and 720p 3D 60hz modes, which are technically 120Hz signals (although it's each eye at 60Hz), so that is quite disappointing.
Yeah can you explain that 1080p 3D thing? It got me confused because I though to myself when I first saw it, Oh no i wont be able to do 3D on 4K since it wasn't a mode, then I just toggled the 3D button on the remote. What does setting it to 1080p 3D do exactly?

And I thought the dynramic range on game mode was broken with the latest update and that this update was supposed to fix that? Why are you complaining lol
edo101 is offline  
post #25933 of 28442 Old 06-18-2018, 07:22 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
morphinapg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,039
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2456 Post(s)
Liked: 2075
Quote:
Originally Posted by edo101 View Post
Yeah can you explain that 1080p 3D thing? It got me confused because I though to myself when I first saw it, Oh no i wont be able to do 3D on 4K since it wasn't a mode, then I just toggled the 3D button on the remote. What does setting it to 1080p 3D do exactly?

And I thought the dynramic range on game mode was broken with the latest update and that this update was supposed to fix that? Why are you complaining lol
The button on the remote will simply apply a 2D-to-3D conversion mode that doesn't work all that great, but that conversion works on all inputs, even HDR.

On your PC, on the resolution drop down list you'll see 1080p (3D) and 720p (3D) as one of the resolution options in the list. Those are used for 3D gaming and Blu-ray, but they require a 120hz signal to do that, because they have to send the left eye image first, and then the right eye image, so they're still sending 120 images per second, but the left and right eye images are displayed simultaneously on a passive 3D set like these, so really it doesn't matter anyway. It's just a frustration that it actually can accept 120hz signals, but only if those signals are formatted for 3D, which is then displayed at 60hz.

If you have an Nvidia card you can get Nvidia 3DTV play and it will let you play games in 3D using those modes, or watch 3D Blu-rays on your computer.

Sent from my OnePlus One using Tapatalk

Living Room: Sony XBR65X930D, Sony HTCT780, Philips BDP7501
Bedroom: LG OLED55C6P, Denon AVR-X1300W (5.1.2), PS4 Pro, Sony UBP-X700, Chromecast Ultra
Check out my video game movie edits
morphinapg is offline  
post #25934 of 28442 Old 06-18-2018, 08:41 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 90
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 65 Post(s)
Liked: 15
@morphinapg - when you update to the new firmware can you test the hdr to dv conversion on your phiilips uhd player?
cfitzpatrick711 is offline  
post #25935 of 28442 Old 06-18-2018, 08:42 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Jrocker23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Staten Island, NY
Posts: 1,414
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 904 Post(s)
Liked: 876
Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmcv View Post
Unless I'm mistaken, the only beta file that has leaked is for European models. Your US model will not recognize the firmware file.
Yea, tv doesn't see the file. Wish there was a way to force it

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Living Room: LG OLED65C9, AVR Pioneer SC-LX502, Xbox One X, PS4 Pro, Nintendo Switch
Bedrooms: LG OLED65C8, LG OLED55C6, LG Soundbar NB3530A, Xbox One X
LG C6PUA Firmware Link https://www.lg.com/us/support/product/lg-OLED55C6P.AUS
LG C8PUA Firmware Link https://www.lg.com/us/support-produc...5C8PUA#manuals
LG C9PUA/AUA Firmware Link https://www.lg.com/us/support/produc...LED65C9PUA.AUS
Jrocker23 is online now  
post #25936 of 28442 Old 06-18-2018, 08:47 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
morphinapg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,039
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2456 Post(s)
Liked: 2075
Quote:
Originally Posted by cfitzpatrick711 View Post
@morphinapg - when you update to the new firmware can you test the hdr to dv conversion on your phiilips uhd player?
Sure. Do you think the new TV update will not only fix raised black levels in normal DV Blu-rays, but will also fix the black crush I see currently in the HDR-to-DV conversion? I just figured it was the player improperly expanding to full range instead of legal range in the conversion, causing the TV to clip. You can get that detail back if you raise brightness by a lot (if you could set Black level to high here that would fix it, but that control is disabled in DV), but the "gamma" is all kind of screwed up in those shadows when you do that, so that just further suggests to me an improper conversion on Philips side. But I'll give it a shot. I'll be waiting for the full release of the firmware though, not the beta.

Living Room: Sony XBR65X930D, Sony HTCT780, Philips BDP7501
Bedroom: LG OLED55C6P, Denon AVR-X1300W (5.1.2), PS4 Pro, Sony UBP-X700, Chromecast Ultra
Check out my video game movie edits
morphinapg is offline  
post #25937 of 28442 Old 06-18-2018, 09:24 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 152
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 100 Post(s)
Liked: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by morphinapg View Post
The button on the remote will simply apply a 2D-to-3D conversion mode that doesn't work all that great, but that conversion works on all inputs, even HDR.

On your PC, on the resolution drop down list you'll see 1080p (3D) and 720p (3D) as one of the resolution options in the list. Those are used for 3D gaming and Blu-ray, but they require a 120hz signal to do that, because they have to send the left eye image first, and then the right eye image, so they're still sending 120 images per second, but the left and right eye images are displayed simultaneously on a passive 3D set like these, so really it doesn't matter anyway. It's just a frustration that it actually can accept 120hz signals, but only if those signals are formatted for 3D, which is then displayed at 60hz.

If you have an Nvidia card you can get Nvidia 3DTV play and it will let you play games in 3D using those modes, or watch 3D Blu-rays on your computer.

Sent from my OnePlus One using Tapatalk

How ?? last time I tried watching a 3D movie with powerdvd 17/18 it auto go to 1080p24p . how do I choose 1080p60p ?
x7007 is offline  
post #25938 of 28442 Old 06-18-2018, 09:39 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
morphinapg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,039
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2456 Post(s)
Liked: 2075
Quote:
Originally Posted by x7007 View Post
How ?? last time I tried watching a 3D movie with powerdvd 17/18 it auto go to 1080p24p . how do I choose 1080p60p ?
Yeah movies would probably switch it to 24hz output in order to display the proper film cadence. Games would use the 60hz 3D modes.

Living Room: Sony XBR65X930D, Sony HTCT780, Philips BDP7501
Bedroom: LG OLED55C6P, Denon AVR-X1300W (5.1.2), PS4 Pro, Sony UBP-X700, Chromecast Ultra
Check out my video game movie edits
morphinapg is offline  
post #25939 of 28442 Old 06-18-2018, 09:50 PM
Member
 
apexgrin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 127
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 77 Post(s)
Liked: 43
Quote:
Originally Posted by guitarguy316 View Post
So basically this from the default...

HDR BRIGHT
Oled light 100
Contrast 100
Brightness 50
Sharpness 0 (from 20)
Colour 60
Tint 0
Colour temp W45 from 0

Advanced controls
Dynamic contrast OFF
Dynamic colour off
Preferred colour all 0
Color gamut NORMAL
Super resolution OFF
Gamma medium

Picture mode settings
Noise reduction OFF
MPEG Noise reduction OFF

Black level auto
Real cinema on
Motion eye care off
Trumotion OFF
These settings look pretty good. Is turning Trumotion off completely better than the popular user settings? It's nice not seeing the artifacts around the drone at the beginning of Interstellar.

---
LG OLED65C6P
Oppo 203 - PS4 Pro
Denon X4300H + Outlaw 2200 (Center)
Klipsch RP-250F, RP-450C - Dual PB-1000 Subs - Onkyo Satellites
apexgrin is offline  
post #25940 of 28442 Old 06-18-2018, 10:34 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
morphinapg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,039
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2456 Post(s)
Liked: 2075
Quote:
Originally Posted by apexgrin View Post
These settings look pretty good. Is turning Trumotion off completely better than the popular user settings? It's nice not seeing the artifacts around the drone at the beginning of Interstellar.
I never recommend turning on TruMotion. The TV handles 24, 30, and 60fps content all correctly, without the need for any adjustment. The only time I ever use it is dejudder 1 when I'm playing 24fps content over a 60p source, so it can handle reverse pulldown, but that's very rare because of the built in apps and because my DVR runs at 1080i, and Real Cinema handles the reverse pulldown on interlaced sources so TruMotion isn't required.

Sent from my OnePlus One using Tapatalk
apexgrin likes this.

Living Room: Sony XBR65X930D, Sony HTCT780, Philips BDP7501
Bedroom: LG OLED55C6P, Denon AVR-X1300W (5.1.2), PS4 Pro, Sony UBP-X700, Chromecast Ultra
Check out my video game movie edits
morphinapg is offline  
post #25941 of 28442 Old 06-18-2018, 10:40 PM
Member
 
Afrikan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 63
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 11 Post(s)
Liked: 12
Any link to how to get the HLG HDR to work on a C6 through Directv Ready App.

4K is working fine.

Online it says that our 2016 TVs received the HLG Update.

Anyone watching the World Cup in HDR on DirecTV Ready App? How does it look?
Afrikan is offline  
post #25942 of 28442 Old 06-18-2018, 10:50 PM
Member
 
Jacob22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Katy, Texas
Posts: 122
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 102 Post(s)
Liked: 50
2016 LG C6-B6 owners thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Afrikan View Post
Any link to how to get the HLG HDR to work on a C6 through Directv Ready App.



4K is working fine.



Online it says that our 2016 TVs received the HLG Update.



Anyone watching the World Cup in HDR on DirecTV Ready App? How does it look?


Yes! Looks fantastic as do all sports in 4K!

Edit: I don’t have the DirecTV ready app. Just the Genie Mini 4K.
Jacob22 is offline  
post #25943 of 28442 Old 06-18-2018, 11:11 PM
Member
 
apexgrin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 127
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 77 Post(s)
Liked: 43
Quote:
Originally Posted by morphinapg View Post
I never recommend turning on TruMotion. The TV handles 24, 30, and 60fps content all correctly, without the need for any adjustment. The only time I ever use it is dejudder 1 when I'm playing 24fps content over a 60p source, so it can handle reverse pulldown, but that's very rare because of the built in apps and because my DVR runs at 1080i, and Real Cinema handles the reverse pulldown on interlaced sources so TruMotion isn't required.

Sent from my OnePlus One using Tapatalk
Thanks! Good to know. 99.9% of my viewing is either from the PS4, Oppo, or the built in apps.

---
LG OLED65C6P
Oppo 203 - PS4 Pro
Denon X4300H + Outlaw 2200 (Center)
Klipsch RP-250F, RP-450C - Dual PB-1000 Subs - Onkyo Satellites
apexgrin is offline  
post #25944 of 28442 Old 06-18-2018, 11:53 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 90
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 65 Post(s)
Liked: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by morphinapg View Post
Sure. Do you think the new TV update will not only fix raised black levels in normal DV Blu-rays, but will also fix the black crush I see currently in the HDR-to-DV conversion? I just figured it was the player improperly expanding to full range instead of legal range in the conversion, causing the TV to clip. You can get that detail back if you raise brightness by a lot (if you could set Black level to high here that would fix it, but that control is disabled in DV), but the "gamma" is all kind of screwed up in those shadows when you do that, so that just further suggests to me an improper conversion on Philips side. But I'll give it a shot. I'll be waiting for the full release of the firmware though, not the beta.
Thanks! No worries on waiting, im doing the same. I am hoping that it fixes the black crush, but am not holding my breath. I’d rather not buy the new pansonic player w the hdr optimizer to get better tone mapping. However, maybe the new brighter game mode will be the middle ground im looking for.
morphinapg likes this.
cfitzpatrick711 is offline  
post #25945 of 28442 Old 06-19-2018, 02:11 PM
Senior Member
 
edo101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 268
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 148 Post(s)
Liked: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by morphinapg View Post
I'll be sad if the improved dynamic range of the HDR Game mode is gone, as I use that a lot even with movies in a dark room, but Dolby Vision performance is ultimately more important. I'm curious about what many of the other changes mean.

Sent from my OnePlus One using Tapatalk
Quote:
Originally Posted by morphinapg View Post
HDMI is overall a better standard than DisplayPort, especially with HDMI 2.1. Very few people use TVs as computer monitors, and those that do are typically using them for HTPC, not gaming, so 120Hz input is less of a concern for TVs typically. The 120Hz is an important part of displaying 60Hz and 24Hz content correctly, so it's important to advertise for that reason.

I just connected my PC to the TV via a 15ft Premium Certified HDMI cable, enabled UHD Deep Color for that port, and tested creating a custom resolution in Nvidia Control Panel for 120Hz at both 1080p and 720p, and both gave me this:



So the TV definitely does NOT allow native 120Hz input, even if forced. It does however support 1080p and 720p 3D 60hz modes, which are technically 120Hz signals (although it's each eye at 60Hz), so that is quite disappointing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by morphinapg View Post
The button on the remote will simply apply a 2D-to-3D conversion mode that doesn't work all that great, but that conversion works on all inputs, even HDR.

On your PC, on the resolution drop down list you'll see 1080p (3D) and 720p (3D) as one of the resolution options in the list. Those are used for 3D gaming and Blu-ray, but they require a 120hz signal to do that, because they have to send the left eye image first, and then the right eye image, so they're still sending 120 images per second, but the left and right eye images are displayed simultaneously on a passive 3D set like these, so really it doesn't matter anyway. It's just a frustration that it actually can accept 120hz signals, but only if those signals are formatted for 3D, which is then displayed at 60hz.

If you have an Nvidia card you can get Nvidia 3DTV play and it will let you play games in 3D using those modes, or watch 3D Blu-rays on your computer.

Sent from my OnePlus One using Tapatalk
You mean to say when I play a downloaded SBS or Half top half down file and I hit 3d and select the mode, its only doing 2D to 3D? I'll definitely look into 3D nvidia gaming when prices come down. i've been wanting to play WItcher 3 in 3D. DOes the game have to be an official 3D title or does Nividia force 3D on and how well does it work. Does it have to be in 1080p to play 3D?
edo101 is offline  
post #25946 of 28442 Old 06-19-2018, 02:19 PM
Senior Member
 
edo101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 268
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 148 Post(s)
Liked: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacob22 View Post
Yes! Looks fantastic as do all sports in 4K!

Edit: I don’t have the DirecTV ready app. Just the Genie Mini 4K.
Haven't looked around yet but are there any free/non directTV ways to watch the world cup on 4k HDR?
edo101 is offline  
post #25947 of 28442 Old 06-19-2018, 02:59 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
morphinapg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,039
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2456 Post(s)
Liked: 2075
Quote:
Originally Posted by edo101 View Post
You mean to say when I play a downloaded SBS or Half top half down file and I hit 3d and select the mode, its only doing 2D to 3D? I'll definitely look into 3D nvidia gaming when prices come down. i've been wanting to play WItcher 3 in 3D. DOes the game have to be an official 3D title or does Nividia force 3D on and how well does it work. Does it have to be in 1080p to play 3D?
Oh sorry, no, forgot about those. Those are displayed correctly.

Sent from my OnePlus One using Tapatalk

Living Room: Sony XBR65X930D, Sony HTCT780, Philips BDP7501
Bedroom: LG OLED55C6P, Denon AVR-X1300W (5.1.2), PS4 Pro, Sony UBP-X700, Chromecast Ultra
Check out my video game movie edits
morphinapg is offline  
post #25948 of 28442 Old 06-19-2018, 03:08 PM
Senior Member
 
edo101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 268
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 148 Post(s)
Liked: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by morphinapg View Post
Oh sorry, no, forgot about those. Those are displayed correctly.

Sent from my OnePlus One using Tapatalk
So I'm guessing, for those that play Blu Ray from their PCs, they'd need the display to be in 1080p3D for it to be able to detect 3D signal

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
edo101 is offline  
post #25949 of 28442 Old 06-19-2018, 03:36 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
IMWhizzle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 1,374
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1034 Post(s)
Liked: 341
Quote:
Originally Posted by edo101 View Post
Haven't looked around yet but are there any free/non directTV ways to watch the world cup on 4k HDR?


No, because of licensing only certain providers have a deal with FIFA for broadcasting the event.

Klipsch Reference Premiere: 4 x RP-280's, 1 x RP 450C and dual R-115W's
Marantz 7011 AVR
LG OLED B6
Apple TV 4K
PlayStation Pro
IMWhizzle is online now  
post #25950 of 28442 Old 06-19-2018, 03:58 PM
Advanced Member
 
CyberScott's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 598
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 123 Post(s)
Liked: 150
Quote:
Originally Posted by edo101 View Post
You mean to say when I play a downloaded SBS or Half top half down file and I hit 3d and select the mode, its only doing 2D to 3D? I'll definitely look into 3D nvidia gaming when prices come down. i've been wanting to play WItcher 3 in 3D. DOes the game have to be an official 3D title or does Nividia force 3D on and how well does it work. Does it have to be in 1080p to play 3D?
It is possible to play games in 3D with Nvidia with some EDID tinkering through the PC.
The following links give info on how to do it.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/t...assive-tv-/13/

https://forums.geforce.com/default/t...-4k-upscaling/
edo101 likes this.

LG OLED65C9PUA; Denon AVR-X4500H, 7.2.4 ATMOS
LG OLED55C6P, Denon AVR-X6300H also rocking 7.2.4 ATMOS goodness!
Samsung UN65HU9000FXZA (TS01) with SEK-3500U/ZA Evolution Kit, Onkyo TX-RZ1100
CyberScott is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply OLED Technology and Flat Panels General

Tags
arc , C6-B6 , calibration , computer , desktop , firmware update , lg c6 pc sdr hdr , lg oled , monitor , oled , oled b6 , oled lg , screen damage , screen uniformity , settings , soundbar , there is sig

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off